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Himawari said:
He immediately rejected the money because he probably (and quite reasonably, all things considered) thought it was a troll trap.

Besides, I can't speak for everyone, but I didn't donate under the expectation that it would stop Chris from ranting and raving about trolls. I want him to receive the items funded by my contribution. I don't care how he reacts to it.

You want to know something? Chris is right to reject our aid. It's fucking mind blowing isn't it?

He is right to reject our offer. He is correct in all of his assumptions. We revel in every new update, and suddenly a fire. Nobody was willing to help before, so what changed?

Let me ask the people who gave their money a question; Why?
 
Crazy Pacer said:
Himawari said:
He immediately rejected the money because he probably (and quite reasonably, all things considered) thought it was a troll trap.

Besides, I can't speak for everyone, but I didn't donate under the expectation that it would stop Chris from ranting and raving about trolls. I want him to receive the items funded by my contribution. I don't care how he reacts to it.

You want to know something? Chris is right to reject our aid. It's fucking mind blowing isn't it?

He is right to reject our offer. He is correct in all of his assumptions. We revel in every new update, and suddenly a fire. Nobody was willing to help before, so what changed?

Let me ask the people who gave their money a question; Why?
He rejected an offer over the phone from a number out of his area code that said people from the Internet were building him a package. It's not like he personally lit up a $700 money order; he turned down a verbal message over the phone under the suspicion it was a trick like literally every call he's received in the last 8 years has been.
 
Ass Patter's Brigade

What happens next time Null?

Being constantly rescued by the efforts of others is what turned Chris into what he is today. Do you seek to enable him even further? Obviously you do.

Return the money and we can all forget about the time you turned in Anna.
 
Crazy Pacer said:
Let me ask the people who gave their money a question; Why?

Because it's the right thing to do, care for other human being in distress. What other reasons you might need?.
 
Zvantastika said:
Crazy Pacer said:
Let me ask the people who gave their money a question; Why?

Because it's the right thing to do, care for other human being in distress. What other reasons you might need?.

I was asking a question, I expected a reply, you gave me a canned response about ass patting Chris and moralizing.

Let me simplify it: What do you expect your money to actually do to improve his life?
 
Hey, I just wanted to confirm that this thread is just for donations that will be used to buy stuff for Chris, then sent to him. You're not going to give him any money directly, are you? I just want to make sure that, if I do donate, I won't be putting money for vidya and porn (and junkfood for Snorlax) into his pocket. It may sound dickish, but it's not like he's got a good money-management track record. :/
 
Crazy Pacer said:
What happens next time Null?

Being constantly rescued by the efforts of others is what turned Chris into what he is today. Do you seek to enable him even further? Obviously you do.

Return the money and we can all forget about the time you turned in Anna.
Who gives a shit about the wishes and desires of Chris? If we started listening to what he wanted, the Cwcki would be chopped down and this forum shut down.
I donated privately in the form of a money order, and it was made out to Barb Chandler. I feel for Barb and the years of hell she has probably gone through because of him. That's why I gave. She doesn't deserve what happened. She's "not right" either, but at least she made an effort in her own way. She is the victim here in my eyes. Not only is she recorded on a telephone call as asking Chris for help in cleaning, but she is physically incapable herself. And it was his responsibility regardless of her whims and any difficulties she may pose (as all hoarders do in cleaning up hoards), as she is a sick woman in her 70's. He should have manned the hell up and fixed it. Secondly, he is the one who was making coffee in a bathroom at 2am. It doesn't matter if it was for Snorlax or at her request. She is a sick, 70+ old coot, and Chris should have known better. I don't care if Chris doesn't want money or wants to get new clothes, food, or even vidya. If he doesn't, that's fine too. But Barbara is the ADULT who will provide a roof over their heads and provide the bare necessities for life. In any event, I don't think you could argue that helping a family recover from a fire is enabling. It is a very noble and just thing to do.
 
IceCube said:
Hey, I just wanted to confirm that this thread is just for donations that will be used to buy stuff for Chris, then sent to him. You're not going to give him any money directly, are you? I just want to make sure that, if I do donate, I won't be putting money for vidya and porn (and junkfood for Snorlax) into his pocket. It may sound dickish, but it's not like he's got a good money-management track record. :/
It'll all be in giftcards and essential items. I might end up with some extra money because there is a lot, but I think if I write a money order to Barbara Chandler it'll get spent better.
 
I never expected so many white knights. I'm honestly ashamed of you all. I had no idea so many of my fellow Christorians were so gullible and sentimental. So easily mislead.

Remember what happens when you feel pity for Chris.
 
I was thinking about sending him a message on Facebook (not sure if want to use my personal account) to accept the help and stop being proud in a time like this. What do you guys think?
 
Honestly - don't bother. If he rejected it in a phone call from Null, what on earth makes you think he's going to respond to other mediums? The last thing we need is OPL to be more distressed right now. Let's just give it to someone trustworthy who will see that he gets the items.
 
UltraSonichu said:
Honestly - don't bother. If he rejected it in a phone call from Null, what on earth makes you think he's going to respond to other mediums? The last thing we need is OPL to be more distressed right now. Let's just give it to someone trustworthy who will see that he gets the items.

Yeah, you're right. Sometimes I forget we're dealing with Chris.
 
Crazy Pacer said:
I was asking a question, I expected a reply, you gave me a canned response about ass patting Chris and moralizing.

Notice how I wrote "other human being" instead of just "Chris", do you know why I did that?, to state that I really don't care if it's Chris the one I'm helping.
I (personally) help anyone I can anyway I can, if you come up to my door and ask for money because you just got robbed I'd give you enough to take a cab all the way back to your home. Like I said earlier, Chris might not be the best person ever or even a "regular" person but he's still a HUMAN BEING and if he needs help I'll just lend a hand because it's the right thing to do, I don't care about your past, I don't care if you're racist, if you ask for help I'll gladly deliver even if I hate you or you're a complete stranger, it's all about being a good person who actually cares for others and not just "pity".
 
DustyR said:
Crazy Pacer said:
What happens next time Null?

Being constantly rescued by the efforts of others is what turned Chris into what he is today. Do you seek to enable him even further? Obviously you do.

Return the money and we can all forget about the time you turned in Anna.
Who gives a shit about the wishes and desires of Chris? If we started listening to what he wanted, the Cwcki would be chopped down and this forum shut down.
I donated privately in the form of a money order, and it was made out to Barb Chandler. I feel for Barb and the years of hell she has probably gone through because of him. That's why I gave. She doesn't deserve what happened. She's "not right" either, but at least she made an effort in her own way. She is the victim here in my eyes. Not only is she recorded on a telephone call as asking Chris for help in cleaning, but she is physically incapable herself. And it was his responsibility regardless of her whims and any difficulties she may pose (as all hoarders do in cleaning up hoards), as she is a sick woman in her 70's. He should have manned the hell up and fixed it. Secondly, he is the one who was making coffee in a bathroom at 2am. It doesn't matter if it was for Snorlax or at her request. She is a sick, 70+ old coot, and Chris should have known better. I don't care if Chris doesn't want money or wants to get new clothes, food, or even vidya. If he doesn't, that's fine too. But Barbara is the ADULT who will provide a roof over their heads and provide the bare necessities for life. In any event, I don't think you could argue that helping a family recover from a fire is enabling. It is a very noble and just thing to do.

I really, really hope this was some not-very-obvious satire. Barb is not a victim. Barb is a borderline sociopath who crammed that tinderbox of a house full of flammable garbage, floor to ceiling.
 
Null said:
It'll all be in giftcards and essential items. I might end up with some extra money because there is a lot, but I think if I write a money order to Barbara Chandler it'll get spent better.
Will you make it clear that the help comes from the CWCki forums or will you keep it anonymous? I can see reasons to go with either option, so it'd be interesting to hear how it turns out.
 
Christ-ian said:
Null said:
It'll all be in giftcards and essential items. I might end up with some extra money because there is a lot, but I think if I write a money order to Barbara Chandler it'll get spent better.
Will you make it clear that the help comes from the CWCki forums or will you keep it anonymous? I can see reasons to go with either option, so it'd be interesting to hear how it turns out.

Giving it to Mann and just saying "we raised a fund for Christian" is the best route in my opinion. Not saying it's directly from the Cwcki but not denying it either.
 
UltraSonichu said:
Honestly - don't bother. If he rejected it in a phone call from Null, what on earth makes you think he's going to respond to other mediums? The last thing we need is OPL to be more distressed right now. Let's just give it to someone trustworthy who will see that he gets the items.

1. He doesn't know Null personally. How many other times has he been contacted by strangers regarding potential bullshit (read: weens).
2. "Hello, I run the forum---"CLICK
3. Like the insurance agent who he's directed people to?
 
Don't send them anything they can just spend on non essentials. Anything that can be spend on items to add to a new hoard is just setting up wherever they live next to burn down.
 
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