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A bit late to the PoR animation discussion but I recognized the channel to also be the guy that does the Radiant Dawn rebalance/reimagine overhaul and it seems he's strong arming the start of Tellius hacking which has been famously difficult to do until now. I'm curious where this will lead to but I doubt it'll be GBA style romhacks anytime soon.
 
A bit late to the PoR animation discussion but I recognized the channel to also be the guy that does the Radiant Dawn rebalance/reimagine overhaul and it seems he's strong arming the start of Tellius hacking which has been famously difficult to do until now. I'm curious where this will lead to but I doubt it'll be GBA style romhacks anytime soon.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o_lYXiT3p40
Maybe one day the Tellius Games will be de compiled and then the real shit will start getting done.
 
As obnoxious as some of the 3H cast was, at least most of them had something to bring to the table. Lorenz is trying to be "selfless" in the most arrogant way possible. Sylvain occasionally says something intelligent whilst being an closeted coomer. Ferdinand within from being "I'm Ferdinand von Aegir" to trying to be the exact opposite of his father (which isn't hard, all things considered).

As with Bernie. Well, she only exists as comic relief.
 
I've always wondered what makes these sorts of people drawn to FE of all things. While the past decade might've exacerbated it, it's not really new; at least from my recollection there always seemed a dedicated portion of the pre-Awakening fanbase that was obsessed with Ike's sexuality and race relations in Tellius.
I'm really not trying to get political or pick on Tellius even though it's really funny to do but if it was going to be any entry in the series to attract people like this, it's going to be the game where Ike promotes immediately after solving racism. It's going to be the subversive one where the lord doesn't respect or desire nobility. It's going to be the game that's really, really hard to meaningfully fuck up in, even on hard mode. It's very likely that I'm misremembering as someone who generally doesn't care about FE writing, but this sort of thing doesn't seem especially prominent in the series (full disclosure: I don't remember much of 3H, Genealogy, or SoV):
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance Part #43 - Chapter 20 - Preamble.webp
Though they seemed to have missed the part of Tellius that's about how both reason and retardation are prevalent across all races and social classes unless you voted for Validar whose tariffs are currently preventing me from hotgluing the Lucina fig and then shoving it up my ass as soon as possible. In 3H's case it really was just a perfect storm of external circumstances and an unfortunate case of being too popular for it's own good at exactly the wrong time. Or best time I guess, depending on your perspective.
 
I'm really not trying to get political
I will - I like Tellius, a lot, but when I replayed PoR last year there was a lot of stuff that jumped out to me that just flew over my head as a kid, and that screenshot is actually not the worst from that chapter. There's a section there (iirc) where Jill (the guy's daughter) talks about how there's schools all over Daein where kids are taught to hate laguz - nevermind the absurdity of a public school system existing in a medieval low fantasy setting specifically to educate country bumpkins about the need to gas furries, this is coming from the country that had no shared border or conflicts with any of the laguz kingdoms.

Tellius in general takes an unambiguously pro-furry stance. The idea that laguz may have at one point oppressed beorc (humans) before the beorc figured out how to make tools is brought up, but is never actually shown or discussed for all the talking about it ingame, and the laguz do no wrong, to the point that even Naesala's being a scumbag is purely a consequence of him working with beorc and is then retroactively erased in RD so that he dindu nuthin because of blood contracts. Given that the laguz also deviated from the usual of manaketes being dragons in human form, I wouldn't be surprised if Tellius inadvertently introduced people to the furry community and its insanity or brought some of them in, and it's clear that when people talk about racism in Tellius they only talk about it as an analogue for reinforcing the prevailing narrative around racial grievance mongering in the west and not as anything that actually adds nuance or depth to the worldbuilding.
unless you voted for Validar whose tariffs are currently preventing me from hotgluing the Lucina fig and then shoving it up my ass as soon as possible
I wonder what IS meant by having Lucina's birthday be 4/20.
 
Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating? Have always been interested, but I am only now getting around to playing older games and established series that I never played. I saw Three Heroes for $60 at Gamestop and I know my friend likes it, but I would rather start with older titles first. This was one of those series I always wanted to try, especially because as I have gotten older my appreciation for strategy games has grown.

If I am just shitting up the thread then I will see myself out.
 
Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating? Have always been interested, but I am only now getting around to playing older games and established series that I never played. I saw Three Heroes for $60 at Gamestop and I know my friend likes it, but I would rather start with older titles first. This was one of those series I always wanted to try, especially because as I have gotten older my appreciation for strategy games has grown.

If I am just shitting up the thread then I will see myself out.
Sacred Stones is probably the best start for coming into the series. It's forgiving to new players, introduces a lot of overworld/campaign concepts that would be reused in later titles that the other GBA titles lack, has the good character writing that people like in the series, and, imo, is just the best 'all-round' FE game.

If that's too old for you, Awakening is good for introducing you to FE tropes and basic mechanical concepts, Fates: Conquest if you want to then challenge those.
 
There's a section there (iirc) where Jill (the guy's daughter) talks about how there's schools all over Daein where kids are taught to hate laguz
Yeah, there's also a base conversation the chapter after where Ike and Jill talk to some Daein village chick who's basically just like "Hahaha yesssss murder death kill all Crimeans!!!! A Crimean just gave you some food, my starving child/sister? Throw it the fuck away, now!!! Honor before death!!" I know that's different from furries, but I guess Daein Racism Class is just that all-encompassing.

Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating?
Unironically just pick one that you think is convenient and looks the coolest, unless it's called Revelation. NES and SNES are jank but still hold up, depending on your jank tolerance. Most of the games have an easy mode, if that's a worry. Fire Emblem's funny because if you like one game, there's a good chance there's 1: another game just like it, and 2: another game that's the total opposite, so don't be afraid to dip your toes into a few of them just to see which one 'feels' the best since you're emulating. Also don't be afraid of being an FE noob, it doesn't get old hearing about how fuckin cool myrmidons and swordmasters are. And on that note also unironically just use the characters that you think look the coolest. Internet unit viability discussion is mostly gay and made up.
 
I will defend PoR for a moment.
if it was going to be any entry in the series to attract people like this, it's going to be the game where Ike promotes immediately after solving racism.
I would agree, except Path of Radiance is precisely zero people's introduction to the series these days. Not wanting to be the noble hero but doing it anyways is a staple of fantasy, a staple of the hero's journey even. I don't think that's subversive in the context of the genre as a whole.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tellius inadvertently introduced people to the furry community and its insanity or brought some of them in
Anyone with the interest in playing an the rare to find (piracy only, effectively) entry in an obscure strategy RPG Nintendo series knew about furies a long time before they ever got to Fire Emblem. The Sonic and Pokémon communities did it for them already, if not Tumbler or Youtube.
And yes, it is still a very obscure game in the scheme of things, even if it's far less obscure that it was a decade ago. Your average person on the street has no clue what it is. Anyone with any interest in playing Path of Radiance has been on this internet long enough to have already taken their stance on furfags.
the laguz do no wrong,
Nobody in FE does anything wrong except the antagonists and even they are more often than not also possessed by a demon. PoR and RD actually do the closes attempt at this across any entry where at least Dein under Ashnard was a more merit-based society in a "Hiter was great for Germany" context and in RD we can see how Begnion rule was generally worse for the average Dein citizen. Is it nuanced, hell no, but its closer to nuanced than basically anything else in this franchise. That's a low bar, granted, when the competition is Dark Dragon and the Blade of Light or GBAFE.

3H might look like an exception but every house plus the church count as a possible antagonist too. The Loptyr cult / Grimial being 'oppressed' doesn't count either they are very clearly meant to be irredeemable. These games aren't high art about moral grey areas, no matter how much the marketing wants us to think they are.
then retroactively erased in RD so that he dindu nuthin
Yeah that was complete bullshit lmao cant defend that one.

TLDR: Losers find their way to niche anime/vidya communities that won't exile them because the community is small and anyone willing to join is welcome. Losers sperg about shipping wars and the sexuality of characters (every anime community does this), until people who don't like that leave. Losers become the majority in that niche community and eventually can exile anyone who doesn't like them. Nobody cares because the community is about a stupid niche video game and people who don't like the 'mainstream' community form their own <- we are here. The cycle repeats as losers want to join the cool one. So sad, many such cases.

Switching topics entierly:
Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating? Have always been interested, but I am only now getting around to playing older games and established series that I never played. I saw Three Heroes for $60 at Gamestop and I know my friend likes it, but I would rather start with older titles first. This was one of those series I always wanted to try, especially because as I have gotten older my appreciation for strategy games has grown.

If I am just shitting up the thread then I will see myself out.
If you already have a switch and Nintendo online, I will strongly recommend the GBA titles, which is just called "Fire Emblem" with no subtitle (colloquially called FE7 or Blazing Blade because no subtitle is confusing), or Sacred Stones. Both are great and very intuitive games to get into, and you likely can play them for ""free"" right now today and see if you like it.
 
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Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating? Have always been interested, but I am only now getting around to playing older games and established series that I never played. I saw Three Heroes for $60 at Gamestop and I know my friend likes it, but I would rather start with older titles first. This was one of those series I always wanted to try, especially because as I have gotten older my appreciation for strategy games has grown.

If I am just shitting up the thread then I will see myself out.
You're good, you're not shitting up the thread, you're just asking what game you should start out with.
Regardless of what game you end up picking i'd like for you to post your thoughts about it here whenever you think you got something to say.

Three Heroes doesn't really exist, you must mean either Three Houses or Three Hopes.

Three Houses, or as it is referred to in the community 3H, is a mainline strategy game in the style of a Fire Emblem game. Three Hopes is a "Warrior's" spinoff, it takes place in the same setting as 3H and is sort of an alternate universe of sorts storywise? I am not quite sure.

As for what game to pick to start out with, it is hard to recommend a specific one but generally I would say FE7 or FE9 are safe picks.
Both games have a great cast of characters and aren't super hard to beat either, I happen to enjoy both of their stories too.
If you want to go even older I would not recommend going past SNES games meaning FE3 onward.

FE3 is a remake and sequel of the very first game, it's UI is kind of clunky so I cannot really recommend starting with it.
FE4 is more or less beloved with great graphics and soundtrack, though it is very, very different from other FE games and honestly it's gameplay kind of sucks in my opinion.
FE5 is close to the GBA era in terms of gameplay but it is notoriously difficult and has some obtuse mechanics like Fatigue, Warp Tiles and the fucking fog of war.

FE6-FE8 are the GBA era and in my opinion the most beginner friendly of the games.
FE6 never released in the west but its fine, it's basically FE1 again but the protagonist has red hair now.
FE7 was the first game ever released in the west, it's hard to find fault in it as someone's first FE game and I wholly recommend it.
FE8 is the same kind of deal only it's arguably the easiest FE game of them all.

FE9's only flaw really are the slow animations but otherwise I think it's a great starting point too.

Though as others have pointed out, if you do end up liking one of them you probably will like all of them.
 
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Anyone with the interest in playing an the rare to find (piracy only, effectively) entry in an obscure strategy RPG Nintendo series knew about furies a long time before they ever got to Fire Emblem. The Sonic and Pokémon communities did it for them already, if not Tumbler or Youtube.
Path of Radiance came out in 2005, Youtube came out that year and Tumblr wouldn't be around for two more years and then didn't achieve prominence until the turn of the decade. Sure, PoR was an obscure (as far as Nintendo goes) game, but furries were also still relatively obscure in the mid-aughts.

I'm not saying people who are starting with PoR *now* wouldn't know about furries or that Sonic and Pokemon didn't have a higher kill count back in 2005, but I say that it introduced some people to what furries were because anecdotally I have seen people admit as much (unsurprisingly it tended to revolve around Lethe and/or Tibarn).
Nobody in FE does anything wrong except the antagonists
That may or may not be true, but that's not the point. Tellius tries to make race relations a major theme and part of its worldbuilding and adopts the most simplistic portrayal of it possible.

Like you said, these games aren't high art, but they are capable of decent interpersonal storytelling. If IS wanted to go beyond 'young lord has to save their kingdom and winds up fighting dragon god' then they need to be held to standards beyond that.
 
Can anyone give me advice on where to start/what to avoid as a noob to the series, specifically for emulating? Have always been interested, but I am only now getting around to playing older games and established series that I never played. I saw Three Heroes for $60 at Gamestop and I know my friend likes it, but I would rather start with older titles first. This was one of those series I always wanted to try, especially because as I have gotten older my appreciation for strategy games has grown.

If I am just shitting up the thread then I will see myself out.
Since you got a lot of replies already, I'd like to add a few things:

-Almost every FE entry has an unique world to experience. So don't worry too much about playing the games in order or something like that. Even games that are set in the same world (like FE6 and FE7, a.k.a the Elibe games) are still enjoyable just by themselves.

-From FE6 and downards, I'd recommend looking a guide for some of them, as they can be filled with secret events, extra chapters, mechanics that are not explained very well, and sometimes, "best endings" that need optional requirements to be fulfilled. On the last one, if you don't care about getting the best ending in a videogame then you probably can ignore this, but idk, I get a sour aftertaste in my mouth whenever I finish a long game and it's like "Oops, you didn't get all the mcguffins for the true ending, sucks to be you, idiot!"

-From FE6 and upwards (+ technically FE4), go for character supports! It's not really a nececssary mechanic to utilize in any of the games, but it just feels nice pairing two people together and seeing them interact and being stronger units when next to each other. A big charm of FE is how every playable unit has their own personality and reason to be there, and even if some of their characteristics are pretty simple and mostly used for comic relief (Trec in FE6 comes to my mind), it's still pretty entertaining seeing them just being actual people.
 
As obnoxious as some of the 3H cast was, at least most of them had something to bring to the table. Lorenz is trying to be "selfless" in the most arrogant way possible. Sylvain occasionally says something intelligent whilst being an closeted coomer. Ferdinand within from being "I'm Ferdinand von Aegir" to trying to be the exact opposite of his father (which isn't hard, all things considered).

As with Bernie. Well, she only exists as comic relief.
for real. bernie genuinely has no redeeming qualities - she's not kind to anyone, she doesn't save others from avoiding a fate like hers, she never gives - only takes. even the retarded hubert support with the flower was her doing selfish shit for her own gain only.

if you think about it further, really none of the female characters have any sort of depth besides edelgard pretending to be a girlboss but wahhh rats scaryyyy
petra must have a developmental disability to be completely immersed in a nation that speaks a different language for 5 years yet never improves upon it. leonie just wants to suck on jeralt's dead taint, annette is the star of every as seen on tv product commercial, mercedes is just the mom friend. the male characters have more facets/layers to their personalities that take more time and effort to read into. i have a hard time liking any of the females just because they're so fucking boooooring.
 
for real. bernie genuinely has no redeeming qualities - she's not kind to anyone, she doesn't save others from avoiding a fate like hers, she never gives - only takes. even the retarded hubert support with the flower was her doing selfish shit for her own gain only.

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Didn't Casper had to tard wrangle her just to show her an flower field? Man, that was hilarious.

if you think about it further, really none of the female characters have any sort of depth besides edelgard pretending to be a girlboss but wahhh rats scaryyyy
petra must have a developmental disability to be completely immersed in a nation that speaks a different language for 5 years yet never improves upon it. leonie just wants to suck on jeralt's dead taint, annette is the star of every as seen on tv product commercial, mercedes is just the mom friend. the male characters have more facets/layers to their personalities that take more time and effort to read into. i have a hard time liking any of the females just because they're so fucking boooooring
To be fair, Petra slightly grows out of the ESL routine and I honestly liked Annette's songs. But nearly all of them are more or less one-dimensional for one reason or another. Even with the ones who had some emotional baggage
 
Didn't Casper had to tard wrangle her just to show her an flower field? Man, that was hilarious.
she needs a tardwrangler for real. and it's not like this is an indech problem, hanneman is a perfectly respectable man who contributes to society significantly more than others.

also, i will never let anyone forget the caspar/dorothea support. euthanise them both.
 
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