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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Am I the only one who thinks that 3 Hopes will be like Revelations and will sell itself as the "real plot" of the original game where everybody lives?
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Considering how they presumably skipped out on Miklan turning into an giant rat-dragon... I'm inclined to believe that we get the 3 Copes route for each house where Shez tips the balance of power into whoever they're aligned with and something catastrophic happens where everyone dies but Byleth. Then there's probably an golden route where Byleth has to kill Shez for growing in the glowie's fish tank.
 
NerdShamer said:
Considering how they presumably skipped out on Miklan turning into an giant rat-dragon... I'm inclined to believe that we get the 3 Copes route for each house where Shez tips the balance of power into whoever they're aligned with and something catastrophic happens where everyone dies but Byleth. Then there's probably an golden route where Byleth has to kill Shez for growing in the glowie's fish tank.
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Who the fuck is this Shez guy? From the images I see of him, he looks like the physical manifestation of a colour filter.
Also from your theory, it seems to me like Byleth will be sacrificed to revive the dragon loli. So the likely case is everyone vs. the church.

This reminds me, I really hated the concept of "those who slither in the dark", besides being a ridiculous name for a faction (I thought it was an analogy rather than a literal body). Having everything bad relegated to fantasy illuminaty is lazy and pointless in a game that already has too many factions.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
This reminds me, I really hated the concept of "those who slither in the dark", besides being a ridiculous name for a faction (I thought it was an analogy rather than a literal body). Having everything bad relegated to fantasy illuminaty is lazy and pointless in a game that already has too many factions.
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One of the GBA games had an evil cult who was trying to resurrect an demonic dragon.

Gaiden did the same thing for an slightly more sympathetic reason.

Awakening was an Saturday morning cartoon.

With 3H we get...An competent version of ANTIFA who barely does anything but manipulate two of the lords.

As with 3 Copes, it's already been foreshadowed that Rhea is an massive autist who can't handle people growing an spine if you've read the forbidden library in 3H's DLC. So yeah, I won't be surprised if the church's knights will get involved against more people somewhere down the line; probably against the kingdom to pad out the story.
 
Been watching some cutscenes, as I am going to get Three Hopes after work. So far it sounds like this game makes Claude more of a bastard and keeps El questionable. Meanwhile, Dimitri gets his cock sucked hard by the narrative.

The writing seems fine, and I like the changes to Claude and El so they are not as terribly written. El has an actual plan this time that makes sense, while Claude has a character besides being Mr. Perfect. They seem to expand well on the more lost ideas of 3H. Dimitri is also well written, but his route feels too Golden Route. Dimitri really loses something when there is no fall, plus the fact that everyone is alive and happy in his route is a shit ending compared to the original.

At this point, it feels like if the two 3H games meshed narratively, we would have a fantastic story, but each one is missing parts made up by the other. It is frustrating to see.
 
Speaking of dragons, I lost my 3ds and all its games to water recently.

I'm thinking of rebuying some of them, and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get all three Fates games if i can find them for cheap. I only played one of them, and I cant even remember which one it was
 
marisa # said:
I always thought it was more "country A attacked / is attacking country B, hero liberates country B from country A and defeats their leader (usually a dragon / evil cult)"
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Fates twisted this around, an little bit. Awakening had Valm as an filler arc. 3H surprisingly wasn't an 3-way war. There might be an few other exceptions where the war breaks out between several countries, but I'm not entirely sure. I know that the Tellius games are mainly about how one country is invading Crimea and nearly everyone is somewhat neutral or hostile.
 
NotFatChild said:
Isn't every fire emblem's plot a variation of 'dragons bad' with sometimes 'some dragons good' thrown in.
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Ike's games aren't really about dragons. PoR is about a mad crazy asshole who fought his way to the top in a shitty society and decided to make the entire continent fight because people suck, and RD is about some lunatic priest trying to awaken a goddess to reset the world or something because he thinks he'll survive the big reset. The dragon laguz exist, but they are barely there at all and aren't really the central focus of the plot. The general discrimination between humans and furries/laguz is the main driving point of the plot and this time a dragon isn't the sole reason this happens, people just suck.

NotFatChild said:
Speaking of dragons, I lost my 3ds and all its games to water recently.

I'm thinking of rebuying some of them, and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get all three Fates games if i can find them for cheap. I only played one of them, and I cant even remember which one it was
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Only play Conquest imo, Birthright is too boring and vanilla unless you like weeb aesthetic classes or you want to watch a swordmaster win the game for you with his lightning sword by the midgame, and Revelations is terrible in just about every way besides that you get more units overall I guess. Conquest is at least a fairly well put together game even if the plot sucks anyway.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Only play Conquest imo, Birthright is too boring and vanilla unless you like weeb aesthetic classes or you want to watch a swordmaster win the game for you with his lightning sword by the midgame, and Revelations is terrible in just about every way besides that you get more units overall I guess. Conquest is at least a fairly well put together game even if the plot sucks anyway.
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A friend and I summed it up as the following

-Birthright is the standard FE story, but the entire supporting cast has one of 3 personalities. Your tolerance for Weeb Aesthetics will determine how much you enjoy this one

-Conquest has a weaker story, but I can actually remember who some of the supporting cast were. Not being able to grind Xp or Money without the DLC actually added a challenge. Also it was a nice change of pace to have “Are We the Baddies?” as the main plot point…

-Revelations needs to be cleansed with fire. The story is actual shit, and having access to literally every character in the game bloats your army to a ludicrous degree. You won’t use 99% of your army beyond making broken Child characters.

And speaking of, the Child Characters. Fucking why though - it worked for Awakening, Time Travel was a plot point, but the fuck. Least they made Galeforce a DLC skill and unable to pass along to child characters, otherwise I’d recreate that particular cheese strat…
 
Leaf Wage Slave said:
Also it was a nice change of pace to have “Are We the Baddies?” as the main plot point…
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Which had the unfortunate distinction of eating up the second half of the game. Birthright is kind of bland until you get into the later levels; but the Nohrian royals didn't resort to chimping out like their eastern counterparts did, which is another reason why Conquest's story is ass.
Leaf Wage Slave said:
And speaking of, the Child Characters. Fucking why though - it worked for Awakening
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I think the devs thought that it would boost some sales from the shipping community on account of how nearly all the kids was just shoved into an pocket dimension of an pocket dimension.

In fact, the fact that the multidimensional thing is an cop-out when it comes to Revelations and certain parts of Conquest.
 
Berrakh said:
Cracked open Hopes some more.

I doubt anyone’s faves will be ruined because they’re all more generic versions of themselves.
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Honest question then - is it worth grabbing now, or should I just wait and see if it goes cheap? There honestly isn’t much good looking coming out this year anyway, so I’m debating it.
 
Leaf Wage Slave said:
Honest question then - is it worth grabbing now, or should I just wait and see if it goes cheap? There honestly isn’t much good looking coming out this year anyway, so I’m debating it.
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If you need something to play now, I guess.

But check out the Steam summer sale first.

And look to see if Amazon has discounts on e-shop codes. I got my copy for 10% less doing that.
 
Berrakh said:
Cracked open Hopes some more.

I doubt anyone’s faves will be ruined because they’re all more generic versions of themselves.
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I dunno, making Ferdinand Empire-exclusive makes me a very unhappy man. I get he's a patriot, but refusing to side with the aggressor in a war of conquest feels more like Ferdinand to me.
 
Berrakh said:
If you need something to play now, I guess.

But check out the Steam summer sale first.

And look to see if Amazon has discounts on e-shop codes. I got my copy for 10% less doing that.
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Might wait and see if work gets any physical copies in then - wait and get 20% off.

It’s telling that that makes exactly 3 games I’m considering buying for the whole of 2022. Gaming as a hobby is fucked…
 
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