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Samson Pumpkin Jr. said:
I agree that the characters are simplistic versions of themselves. Hilda's VA does seem to be an older lady, but I think she brings a lot of life and energy to the character.
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I mean she sounds waay older doing the Hilda voice now.
And idk if Hilda can be said to have energy…
 
Berrakh said:
I mean she sounds waay older doing the Hilda voice now.
And idk if Hilda can be said to have energy…
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Boy

Don't get me started on Jap Bernadetta. For me it was either hear insufferable English va (not everyone in the cast is one, but a lot of them are) or actual ear rape. You can't win.
 
I wish runes in 3H had actual gameplay significance considering they are a massive part of the plot but, at least on normal, didn't give a definite edge for characters who had them.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I wish runes in 3H had actual gameplay significance considering they are a massive part of the plot but, at least on normal, didn't give a definite edge for characters who had them.
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I disagree. Most crests were effective and helped make characters stronger than they would be without them, Felix and Lysithea being the biggest offenders where having a Major Crest allowed them to deal more damage with regular attacks. This is especially true in regards to Hero's Relics, as those allowed characters to rip and tear if they were able to utilize them to the full potential.

That said, there has been a continuity error that's been jutting out to me in regards to 3Hopes and Crests: Count Leopold von Bergliez. House Bergliez having a crest isn't surprising, but the fact that Leopold has a Major Crest of Cichol is a massive problem that bugs me, even knowing that continuity gets ignored sometimes. See, Hanneman made a point that Seteth was the only person on record to possess a Major Cichol Crest, and knowing Seteth's actual identity, this information indicates that nobody can possess a Major Saint's Crest except for the bearer and the person the bonded with. How the hell does Count Bergliez have a Major Saint's Crest?
 
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Berrakh said:
Crests?
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Got my Elden Ring etymology mixed up.

Flaming Insignias said:
I disagree. Most crests were effective and helped make characters stronger than they would be without them, Felix and Lysithea being the biggest offenders where having a Major Crest allowed them to deal more damage with regular attacks. This is especially true in regards to Hero's Relics, as those allowed characters to rip and tear if they were able to utilize them to the full potential.
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It's still not effective enough to base entire social caste system on it (though it's not like humanity never used arbitrary measures for deciding status). Hero's Relics are a bigger factor but they are (at least to my understanding) extremely limited in quantity.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's still not effective enough to base entire social caste system on it (though it's not like humanity never used arbitrary measures for deciding status). Hero's Relics are a bigger factor but they are (at least to my understanding) extremely limited in quantity.
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Chalk it up to gameplay/story dissonance. Per lore, Crests can give people superhuman potential (Dimitri's strength and Lysithea's magical power being the biggest examples) and a nobleman wielding a hero's relic can single-handedly devastate armies if the opening cutscene is anything to go by, but that would make the game unfair to make crests that dynamically powerful.
 
Also some stories almost work better if Crests are just kind of good but mostly about status because it makes the harm being born crestless can cause someone. Like Miklan being disfavored or Dorothea being disowned.

But ultimately I think that would make the world too plastic and silly. Not grounded. It would mean the game basically just exists to extoll Edelgard’s point of view that Crest worship is more harm than good.
 
Berrakh said:
Also some stories almost work better if Crests are just kind of good but mostly about status because it makes the harm being born crestless can cause someone. Like Miklan being disfavored or Dorothea being disowned.

But ultimately I think that would make the world too plastic and silly. Not grounded. It would mean the game basically just exists to extoll Edelgard’s point of view that Crest worship is more harm than good.
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That's the point. Fodlan’s relationship with Crests is treated with a lot more nuance than “they're useful but not that great” because otherwise it turns the story into childish crap about class and merit. The Gautiers are explicitly brought up as a demonstration of why Crests are important since they need to be superhuman if they want to defend the border, while Dorothea and House Bartels exist to show how crests can also be used simply as status symbols. Ironically, virtually all of the worst excesses of Crest politics are in the Empire, while the other two countries take a more utilitarian approach to them and give some merit to why crests are favored in inheritance.
 
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Flaming Insignias said:
Ironically, virtually all of the worst excesses of Crest politics are in the Empire, while the other two countries take a more utilitarian approach to them and give some merit to why crests are favored in inheritance.
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Except for Marianne's case.

And the Empire's stance is justified if the Crest of Serios and the Saints were widely considered to be superior than the 10 Elites. Only problem with it is, that the only people who are complaining about it is Hanneman, Edelgard, and probably Lindhardt.
 
And then there is Lysethia who is trying to make the most outta what limited time she has due to the Slither's experiments on her and giving her two Crests at the cost of drastically limiting her lifespan. Then again I'm just really biased to that angry midget and her really good endings, even the ones where she has her Crests removed and can live a full life make me happy.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
That's the point. Fodlan’s relationship with Crests is treated with a lot more nuance than “they're useful but not that great” because otherwise it turns the story into childish crap about class and merit. The Gautiers are explicitly brought up as a demonstration of why Crests are important since they need to be superhuman if they want to defend the border, while Dorothea and House Bartels exist to show how crests are used simply as status symbols. Ironically, virtually all of the worst excesses of Crest politics are in the Empire, while the other two countries take a more utilitarian approach to them and give some merit to why crests are favored in inheritance.
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My otherwise perfect moral code makes it hard to criticize supervillains tbh.
 
>does Scarlet Blaze on NG+
>uses Ferdinand's musou skill for the first time
>Billy Kametz delivers a god tier performance with the obligatory line
It isn't fair, why did it have to be him and not someone like Monica or Jamie or Schemmel
 
Mysterious Autist XX said:
>does Scarlet Blaze on NG+
>uses Ferdinand's musou skill for the first time
>Billy Kametz delivers a god tier performance with the obligatory line
It isn't fair, why did it have to be him and not someone like Monica or Jamie or Schemmel
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Life is unfair and most English voice acting sucks. Better to just play things silent, as unsettling as that might be.
 
Major Buzzkill said:
Aw, that sucks. I like that guy.

I was trying to listen to supports for the characters yesterday and holy shit, is it me or were the English voices this cringe? Like fuck. No wonder I switched my demo to Japanese lol.
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Actually it can be very useful. Hitting it after a combo can really punish an enemy or remove ones flanking you.

And I mean the class. Not the dude.
 
Berrakh said:
Actually it can be very useful. Hitting it after a combo can really punish an enemy or remove ones flanking you.

And I mean the class. Not the dude.
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It does disappoint me that the Death Knight is a reskin of it much like how Saint is of Mortal Savant but at the same time it makes some degree of sense.
EDIT: Actually after thinking about it Saint should of been a reskin of Enlightened One.
 
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