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So to talk about a game that doesn't look like shit, any of you play Symphony of War? I've really been enjoying it a fuck ton. It's absolutely wild that they turned RPG maker into a functional Fire Emblem clone.
I had a really good time with it as well. If Engage sucks as hard as I think it might, I'll probably do a second playthrough on Hard since the first time around was a bit of cake walk. There are things like the Ambush system that I really wish FE would implement. I just hope the sequel doesn't take like 6 years to come out.
Also ffs give me more giant women IS
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You can just say you don't like the tacky art style of Engage without making up shit to get upset about, like it being the gacha's fault there's no romance (?), or pretending that any of the games have attempted to hide that your character is a dragon since awakening, or that these games don't often have wacky hooks for the intro, also since awakening. Like, jesus, we're acting like symphony of war giantess fanservice is more dignified? You niggas fuckin hate fire emblem
 
I fucking hate this game. Its everything wrong with dubs in one package. You don't even have to watch past the first cutscene before that "WE WON THE GAME YEAHHHHHHH!" in the very first cutscene cringe from Warriors seems to be leaking into the mainline titles now.

Like who the fuck are these guys and why are the autists writing this dogshit assuming I already know all of these new characters and have had lifelong relationships with them already at the very start of the game? #FE already exists if they really really want to be persona so badly and that was already remastered on the switch.
Yes, we all hate the voice acting. Join the club, man.
If Engage sucks as hard as I think it might,
Early game dialogue is kind of cringe, tbh
 
You can just say you don't like the tacky art style of Engage without making up shit to get upset about, like it being the gacha's fault there's no romance (?), or pretending that any of the games have attempted to hide that your character is a dragon since awakening, or that these games don't often have wacky hooks for the intro, also since awakening. Like, jesus, we're acting like symphony of war giantess fanservice is more dignified? You niggas fuckin hate fire emblem
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You can just say you don't like the tacky art style of Engage without making up shit to get upset about, like it being the gacha's fault there's no romance (?), or pretending that any of the games have attempted to hide that your character is a dragon since awakening, or that these games don't often have wacky hooks for the intro, also since awakening. Like, jesus, we're acting like symphony of war giantess fanservice is more dignified? You niggas fuckin hate fire emblem
Being critical of something you love is perfectly normal. This isn't an all or nothing scenerio. And how is getting tired of the same troupey writing hypocritical.
>30 year old franchise started off with shit writing
>"maybe we should get better writing for the 25th entry..."
>"YOU NEVER LIKED THE SERIES TO BEGIN WITH"

You sound like a completely mindless consoomer shill.

You're kind of onto something; but I doubt if they'll ever grow out of Anime Emblem, given how well the series are selling

And also, the Egg is streaming it and he actually likes it
Mangs? He's said previously on his first playthrough he's going to go out of his way to be non-critical and "positive", and will save the brutal honesty for after he's finished it multiple times, basically making his opinion completely worthless right now. Honestly this "Critical = Toxic" faggotry is beyond stupid, but that seems to be the norm with all these nu-streamers. They should take a page out of LoreRunner's book, but I don't think he does FE stuff.
 
Mangs? He's said previously on his first playthrough he's going to go out of his way to be non-critical and "positive", and will save the brutal honesty for after he's finished it multiple times, basically making his opinion completely worthless right now. Honestly this "Critical = Toxic" faggotry is beyond stupid, but that seems to be the norm with all these nu-streamers. They should take a page out of LoreRunner's book, but I don't think he does FE stuff.
I just tuned in, a few minutes ago, and I'm just watching it to see what forces an reset from him.

But that non-critical excuse is just there because he wants his donations
 
Being critical of something you love is perfectly normal. This isn't an all or nothing scenerio. And how is getting tired of the same troupey writing hypocritical.
>30 year old franchise started off with shit writing
>"maybe we should get better writing for the 25th entry..."
>"YOU NEVER LIKED THE SERIES TO BEGIN WITH"

You sound like a completely mindless consoomer shill.
Yeah, when they're fair criticisms. Most Fire Emblems have simple stories, simple characters, not a lot of romance or map objective variety. You're the one that's been dooming and playing armchair gameplay critic for pages and pages based on nothing but screenshots in a series where difficulty, particularly in the newer entries, is very context-sensitive. And now you're telling me you hate the writing in all of these games, and calling me a shill for not seething that this newest one is more of the same? You know, for being what I like and expect from Fire Emblem? What the fuck do you want, the literal children to quote Zarathustra in their C support in the Anime Nintendo SRPG?
 
And now you're telling me you hate the writing in all of these games, and calling me a shill for not seething that this newest one is more of the same? You know, for being what I like and expect from Fire Emblem? What the fuck do you want, the literal children to quote Zarathustra in their C support in the Anime Nintendo SRPG?
When did I make the argument that EVERY game has shit writing? FE4 & 5 & POR has great writing, the rest of the series after 6 has at least serviceable plot and characters albeit shallow (with the exception of Fates). How is speculating that the plot to this looks as bad as Fate's somehow invalidating of my status as a "true fan" of the series. This is such a retarded nonsensical argument.
You're the one that's been dooming and playing armchair gameplay critic for pages and pages based on nothing but screenshots
That's the point of a discussion thread you dumb motherfucker. If you just want a thread of us purely fangirling go over to /vg/ or SF. Stop sucking Nintendo's dick and get better standards faggot.
 
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I'm also assuming Maddening is unfun bullshit like it always is.
I heard one of the early bosses gets a Ridersbane after they transform for combat that isn't listed at all in their inventory on the map when you check them beforehand
I'm going off a comment I saw on 4chan that had no screenshot attached so I have no idea which boss they're talking about
 
I heard one of the early bosses gets a Ridersbane after they transform for combat that isn't listed at all in their inventory on the map when you check them beforehand
This is true, and it happens in the 4th fight. Can't wait for people on SF to bitch about it, considering how much that they hate surprises
 
When did I make the argument that EVERY game has shit writing? FE4 & 5 & POR has great writing
Hard disagree there, FE4 has some of the worst contrived plots in the entire series.

It likes to pretend that it has great political intrigue but all of the nations except two are basically interchangeable generic evil guys...hell one ENTIRE NATION consists entirely of bandits because every FE game needs an early bandit flick.
The villains are an evil cult that were persecuted not too long ago and hunted down like dogs yet they somehow managed to infiltrate every single nation and secretly run things from the shadows. They hold a comical amount of power compared to the heroes.

Nevermind the fact that the final boss is narratively invincible (until the last few turns of the last chapter) and had the power to wipe us out any second he wanted but didn't because he did not feel like it even though we are directly opposing him and killing his guys.

The pacing of the plot was completely fucked, the villains have a perfect choke-hold and the whole world and don't squash our heroes because they're so insignificant.
It'd be like a boxer getting wailed on for ten rounds before landing a single punch himself that knocked his opponent out.

FE4 fucking blows.

Don't know about 5 though, PoR is pretty good.
 
That's the point of a discussion thread you dumb motherfucker. If you just want a thread of us purely fangirling go over to /vg/
fucking lmao
I wish I lived in the bizarro world where /feg/ liked Fire Emblem, or even one where people were generally optimistic about Engage. Since this IS a discussion thread and we're talking a bit about pacing, I'll post some of the autistic loosely organized notes I've been writing as I've been playing Engage. No spoilers.

I've played up to Chapter 18 on hard, but accounting for paralogues played around 25ish chapters.

Story is dumb as shit, so if you're here for an epic realistic mature badass Fire Emblem experience where the characters aren't exactly what they say on their marketing tin, I'm sorry to say that you are too smart for this Nintendo game. I like it, though. You have multiple encounters with the villains which gives the pacing a nice push/pull feel, and makes early-midgame (?) victories more satisfying than when you beat Grug the Bandit Captain VIII or Commander Fuckface of Munster Mansion instead of the villains you actually want to beat and care about.

Somniel hasn't mattered much at all. I don't bother with much of it anymore except occasional fishing just for fun and meals for faster supports, which are generally just boosts to hit, avoid, and dodge. Support quality feels like GBA to me, though comparisons to Fates aren't unreasonable. Did a few forges but they haven't made the game way easier or anything, though the boosts can get really strong. That's kind of the Somniel in a nutshell, you can totally pick up all the garbage and micromanage and grind everything to probably break the game in half, or you can just switch rings around depending on the map and go on your merry way. Maybe it's different on Neurodivergent difficulty.

Maps feel a lot like good GBA to me where there's no same-turn reinforcements or things that suck ass and waste your time like fog, trudging through the desert, trudging through the desert in the fog, and overly winding castle layouts. Conquest this most certainly is not, but Engage frequently throws some anti-turtling and anti-deathball incentives at you. Bosses often get pissed and decide to aggro to you which is cool, and can cut down what would otherwise be unnecessary downtime. Armors are fucking scaaarrryyy units to deal with a lot of the time because you can't break them and they hit like a truck, they're hilarious. One thing that kind of sucks is that there's a lot of units I want to play with, but it's not common for you to get more than 10 deployment slots. So if you can only tolerate looking at around a quarter of the cast for an extended period of time, you're in luck in that regard. It probably also has to do with one of your emblems letting you dance for fucking 4 units simultaneously.

The break system and engaging and the game's balance as a whole are very different from anything I've played in Fire Emblem, and I'm not going to lie and act like if I know for sure yet that they are or aren't totally overcentralizing, or if that's even a bad thing. There's not really much of a basis for comparison to other Fire Emblems outside of rom hacks. I will say though that with how late you get some of the characters and rings, that a randomizer for join and ring order sounds like it has a lot of potential, unless this game has a Karel that it's still hiding. If for some reason you read all this shit some handy QoL to know is that you can skip individual unit's animations by holding ZR before combat, and you can switch a unit's held weapon just by selecting them and pressing L/R. Maybe 3 Houses had that too, but I don't remember.
 
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Hard disagree there, FE4 has some of the worst contrived plots in the entire series.

It likes to pretend that it has great political intrigue but all of the nations except two are basically interchangeable generic evil guys...hell one ENTIRE NATION consists entirely of bandits because every FE game needs an early bandit flick.
The villains are an evil cult that were persecuted not too long ago and hunted down like dogs yet they somehow managed to infiltrate every single nation and secretly run things from the shadows. They hold a comical amount of power compared to the heroes.

Nevermind the fact that the final boss is narratively invincible (until the last few turns of the last chapter) and had the power to wipe us out any second he wanted but didn't because he did not feel like it even though we are directly opposing him and killing his guys.

The pacing of the plot was completely fucked, the villains have a perfect choke-hold and the whole world and don't squash our heroes because they're so insignificant.
It'd be like a boxer getting wailed on for ten rounds before landing a single punch himself that knocked his opponent out.

FE4 fucking blows.

Don't know about 5 though, PoR is pretty good.
Someone got filtered hard by Kaga autism. That's ok, you're allowed to have bad taste.
 
I played halfway through FE4, got exhausted by the combat and read a let's play online to see how it ended. The writing isn't masterful but it does nail a consistently serious tone which is what I want out of my fantasy war games. Sigurd is an adult and is surrounded by other competent men, you feel he has a close friendship with his in-laws. Sigurd unintentionally conquers his friend's kingdom and becomes a liar and kills him, and then gets framed by his own kingdom. The second half is your usual story of teen prince leading a rebel army against evil but it does feel like the bad guys are overwhelmingly powerful and there are some good moments like that girl who turns out to be Quan's and Ethlyn's daughter, who is now serving the enemy. The characters don't have outrageous designs, there are no fluffy slice of life scenes, and there is no bad voice acting to kill the tone.
 
If you just want a thread of us purely fangirling go over to /vg/ or SF.
If this were redditchan's /vg/ there would be no actual discussion at all and just incessant coomerspam while the tranny jannies ban everyone else on a whim for days at a time with some bullshit reason like """"""Spamming""""""" by making a single small post while actual spammers are allowed to do anything.

Engage certainly looks and feels far more polished than Three houses but that's not saying much. None of the texture oddities that can be seen around the monastery and random framerate death around the weekly meetings during the war arc to where it feels like the game was incomplete.
I played halfway through FE4, got exhausted by the combat and read a let's play online to see how it ended. The writing isn't masterful but it does nail a consistently serious tone which is what I want out of my fantasy war games. Sigurd is an adult and is surrounded by other competent men, you feel he has a close friendship with his in-laws. Sigurd unintentionally conquers his friend's kingdom and becomes a liar and kills him, and then gets framed by his own kingdom. The second half is your usual story of teen prince leading a rebel army against evil but it does feel like the bad guys are overwhelmingly powerful and there are some good moments like that girl who turns out to be Quan's and Ethlyn's daughter, who is now serving the enemy. The characters don't have outrageous designs, there are no fluffy slice of life scenes, and there is no bad voice acting to kill the tone.

The whole "teen prince leading an army to save and unify not-japan" thing is Fire Emblem's gimmick. I think Sacred stones got it right where nobody is really absorbed into Renais/blue team by the end of the story and they actually help rebuild the continent. Green Red and Purple team still exist and there's none of this "one world order hold hands and sing happy songs" shit that the Archanea setting games pull. Unifying the various nationstates of Japan is not the same as the idea of Rome it became in the awakening era games.
 
The cringe is finally getting to Mangs, unfortunately
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The Egg is cracking, folks!
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Incoming rape!
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Guess not.
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He actually went on an tirade, asking if ChatGPT wrote this.
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Ok, I'm tapping out from the livestream. This shit is too hilarious
 
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