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I'm starting to see some cracks forming. Some folks I know who deal with troons in their circles (PF for Savage, etc) are starting to speak up a bit about troon issues or bullshit when they come up (because what is a troon's favorite past time after dilating or moderating reddit? Talking about themselves) and I'm seeing the most gentlest of pushback in places like Novice Network.

I know this sounds like making mountains out of molehills but either of those things would be unheard of like 2 years ago. Huge step for the XIV playerbase if this is happening.
The other day when i decided to resub just to play a bit with a friend that actually got into it (poor bastard, he is still at HW) i saw some guy get absolutely assblasted in NN because he didnt want to upgrade his job because of his OC's lore (i think it was something like disliking D&D Paladins??) and it was fun seeing all the burger kings absolutely shit on him without mercy. Im 99% sure it was a troon, said something about being mad at religion or some shit
 
I've gotten fed up with the bastards as far back as 10 years ago. I take issue with that second guy calling my very justified annoyance at troons in general as "transphobia". I said I hate them, not that I'm scared of them. The correct term to use here is discrimination.
Troons being extremely insufferable in this game and basically have a faggot mafia that runs all the western venues in the North America DC, so you can't escape it, even if you want. Honestly surprised the XIV anti-fag/anti-troon sentiment isn't bigger than just making a terf every now and then.
There's a lot more but the thing is that people mostly stay silent about it for the sake of keeping things civil. Most reasonable people do their best not to stir up trouble, even when surrounded by the most insufferable faggots imaginable. Because it's easier to shut your eyes and do the "i'm kinda homeless" than open your mouth and proceed to make your day a lot worse. It helps that you see some people stand up to it and steadily more and more people join in. I bet there's thousands of stories of regular people facing the alphabet mafia's wrath for the pettiest shit in the world and they're just itching to be spiteful right back. I'm hoping as more horror stories come out and the more Asmongold and other people generally against the alphabet mafia's colossal faggotry get more popular, regular folk will start to tolerate them less and less.
I'm starting to see some cracks forming. Some folks I know who deal with troons in their circles (PF for Savage, etc) are starting to speak up a bit about troon issues or bullshit when they come up (because what is a troon's favorite past time after dilating or moderating reddit? Talking about themselves) and I'm seeing the most gentlest of pushback in places like Novice Network.

I know this sounds like making mountains out of molehills but either of those things would be unheard of like 2 years ago. Huge step for the XIV playerbase if this is happening.
A long time ago I was in that camp of believing that transformers and gay people should be left alone because back then, that's what they actually wanted. They did legitimately face discrimination and hate for things they couldn't control. With the advent of social media, specifically tiktok and twitter and the glorification of mental illness along with tolerance being higher than ever, bad actors started taking advantage so they could huff their own farts and spend the rest of their lives being coddled like babies so they wouldn't feel bad about their life choices. So much now that the people who just want to live their lives in peace without bothering nobody have now been swept up in the crossfire and regular folk like me started getting so fed up with their smarmy, smug sense of superiority and narcissism that I find myself rolling my eyes at the sight of anyone claiming to be some special snowflake. Gradually over time, I watched this fucking mental disease infect and destroy everything I loved. All because a bunch of depressed people wanted to play pretend instead of working out their personal issues.

Those of you who've been in the thread for a while know how strongly I feel about transformers. Particularly, I don't feel positively toward them, especially the MtF troons. Those motherfuckers have a grudge against me because I'm a true and honest woman and their constant presence in FF14 grates my nerves on a molecular level for every turquoise and pink monstrosity I'm forced to look at. The moment one of those cumstains discover I'm an actual female, they make it their life mission to undermine me in every way they can think of. And that's not when they are demanding that I turn into a "lesbian" for them. That's a whole other can of worms.
 
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A long time ago I was in that camp of believing that transformers and gay people should be left alone because back then, that's what they actually wanted. They did legitimately face discrimination and hate for things they couldn't control. With the advent of social media, specifically tiktok and twitter and the glorification of mental illness along with tolerance being higher than ever, bad actors started taking advantage so they could huff their own farts and spend the rest of their lives being coddled like babies so they wouldn't feel bad about their life choices. So much now that the people who just want to live their lives in peace without bothering nobody have now been swept up in the crossfire and regular folk like me started getting so fed up with their smarmy, smug sense of superiority and narcissism that I find myself rolling my eyes at the sight of anyone claiming to be some special snowflake. Gradually over time, I watched this fucking mental disease infect and destroy everything I loved. All because a bunch of depressed people wanted to play pretend instead of working out their personal issues.
Yeah, before we reached peak troon insanity a few years ago, I tended to be live and let live. I had encountered a couple of transgender folks in my life, including one working at a QVC in Las Vegas. Just people living their fucking lives.

I don't give a fuck what people do in the comfort of their own homes/in private. But I get pissed off when I see the harmful effects condoning and normalizing this bullshit has had on younger generations (we're starting to see a trickle of troon regret that is going to turn into a tidal wave in the coming years as people come to their senses), on things like sports (scholarships, as well as sports being a place for women to accomplish, learn, and do things), personal safety (in semi-public spaces, but also in jails), and so on.
Those of you who've been in the thread for a while know how strongly I feel about transformers. Particularly, I don't feel positively toward them, especially the MtF troons. Those motherfuckers have a grudge against me because I'm a true and honest woman and their constant presence in FF14 grates my nerves on a molecular level for every turquoise and pink monstrosity I'm forced to look at. The moment one of those cumstains discover I'm an actual female, they make it their life mission to undermine me in every way they can think of. And that's not when they are demanding that I turn into a "lesbian" for them. That's a whole other can of worms.
I absolutely feel sorry for any woman who is playing this game and just trying to have a pleasant time, especially since there is a not inconsiderable portion of the franchise's fanbase that are women.

Every single woman I know in XIV has had to deal with these insidious fucks and has a story or two. Actually, no, sorry, I know of one that, to my knowledge, wasn't propositioned by a troon, but she compensated by creating a polycule and a mountain of drama around her that everyone who wasn't a retard kept away from.

That isn't to say that 'normal' (read: non-troon) dudes don't also cause problems (just go to the XIV subreddit and you're likely to find a sex pest story as the drama of the week), but when I hear about That Guy being a weird sexpest on Discord or in PMs, it's not surprising. I've also seen a number of adventurer plates that have something like 'This isn't a dating app / Not interested in edating' in more than a few profiles.
 
I absolutely feel sorry for any woman who is playing this game and just trying to have a pleasant time, especially since there is a not inconsiderable portion of the franchise's fanbase that are women.
I'm also not a fan of how overly sexual they are (the troons). Like every little thing in existence is a kink of theirs, I have to see them talk about their fetishes and uncomfortable fantasies without being able to voice how gross it makes me feel. Otherwise they slap me with the big ol' KINKSHAMER tag. And the shipping...good fucking Lord, the shipping. They have to turn EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING into some cringe fucking fanfiction revolving around either their self insert or an existing character that they like to project themselves onto. The constant fucking flirting with everything and everyone because they are so desperate for companionship and someone to tolerate how insufferably cunty they are. Their extremely, rice paper thin skin where if they even THINK that you typed something with a certain connotation that isn't on some level kissing their ass, they will absolutely have a fucking nuclear meltdown and immediately try to ruin your life both in game and out of it.

I'm just fucking sick of it all, both in FF14 and out of it. I just want to be able to log in after work, play with some friends and make fun of them and call them faggots when they tell me some gay little story about the person they're crushing on.
 
And the shipping...good fucking Lord, the shipping. They have to turn EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING into some cringe fucking fanfiction revolving around either their self insert or an existing character that they like to project themselves onto. The constant fucking flirting with everything and everyone because they are so desperate for companionship and someone to tolerate how insufferably cunty they are.
I fucking hate how the troons and fujos have ruined both G'raha and Emet-Selch with their constant thirsting. It's impossible to discuss those characters without someone barging in and describing in explicit detail how their either want to peg, or be pegged by either character.
 
Gradually over time, I watched this fucking mental disease infect and destroy everything I loved.
Honestly, I got so sick of it in FCs that I made my own and filter out anything that sounds remotely trans. I didn't to begin with, thought I could still find some reasonable ones in game. After 5/5 on trannies joining and causing drama, we agreed at officer level no more. Now any time we get a whiff of that sort of shit, we come up with excuses to say we're not the right fit for them. I've seen them cause shit in every type of FF community at this point and I'm fiercely guarding my little niche away from it.

I used to be understanding, then XIV broke me after I saw what these weirdos are really like. Sick of the victim shit in XIV where as soon as you disagree with one of them on anything, you're instantly a fucking transphobe. They called me one often enough that I became one. It's fine, they hate me anyway because I'm female so I'm just giving it right back!
 
I fucking hate how the troons and fujos have ruined both G'raha and Emet-Selch with their constant thirsting. It's impossible to discuss those characters without someone barging in and describing in explicit detail how their either want to peg, or be pegged by either character.
I can't ever call Ryne and Gaia friends without some weirdo mouthbreather "correcting" me. "UUUH ACKSHULLY, THEY ARE IN LESBIANS WITH EACHOTHER. IT'S CANNON BECAUSE OF THE BIG RAINBOW DICK STICKING OUT OF THE GROUND AND YOSHI-P NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER SO...THAT MEANS IT'S CANNON."
God. These people would make every single fucking character in this game some flavor of gay so they can stay perpetually trapped in their fantasy lala land. Anything to escape reality, I guess. I just wish they'd stop making it my fucking problem.
They called me one often enough that I became one. It's fine, they hate me anyway because I'm female so I'm just giving it right back!
Misogynistic men cosplaying as women so they can safely hate women without any of the pushback. I don't care if I get called a transphobe, I'd rather eat a bullet than let one of those dickless pieces of shit talk down to me.
 
I hate adults who fantasize about minors being lesbian. I hate faggots who fantasize about every video game character being gay.

The Octopath Traveler fan community has the same problem where the character Temenos is assumed to be gay despite zero romance or romantic implications in the actual script. I detest the sissification or assumed homosexuality of any petite, young, or shaven male.

I want the XIV writers to make a major character have a heterosexual relationship because it would be funny watching the broken brains lose their shit but Square Enix is too pozzed and buckbroken to do it. "Marriage" is too scary for the broken brains.
 
A special type of transphobia called "dealing with a tranny".

It's literally all it takes - the difference in being told about a transgender person and actually dealing with a transgender person. It only take a few times for the story of "they're just living their lives and are completely normal people" to completely wash away and I'm glad it's starting to get more widespread. FF14 out here doing the lord's work.
 
Yeah, before we reached peak troon insanity a few years ago, I tended to be live and let live. I had encountered a couple of transgender folks in my life, including one working at a QVC in Las Vegas. Just people living their fucking lives.
I find it hard to sympathise with any gender people, but yeah, we almost had this shit figured out in Western society; relationships between men and women are productive and good, if you really have to stick your dick in anything other than lady parts then go be a genetic dead end somewhere where the future generation can't see it. Then for some reason people started acting like 'visibility' was something important and worthwhile, and acting normal in public is a fate worse than death or something.

To stay on topic I had a similar reaction to the Vamp Fatale fight. Ordinarily a leather-clad chick with a whip wouldn't make be blink twice in a JRPG or even a few innuendos, but knowing this game's community you just know whoever wrote the lyrics was pandering to troons. Plenty of people in youtube comments praising how 'accurate' and 'kinkpositive' it was.
I argued this with people and got the typical cries of "karen" plus someone claiming "b-but they have innuendos in ARR!" Like no shit, seeing references to whores in a fantasy setting is not as obnoxious as a sugary pop song about hardcore BDSM. Also, the ESRB page for the game listing it as appropriate for ages 12+ explicitly says it has some dirty jokes, but since it hasn't been updated since ARR there's no mention of anything since.

I guess I particularly dislike that it's not just something in the game, but that it's addressed to the player front-and-centre in a very aggressive way, and it's easy enough to get sexually harassed by hanging out in Limsa without needing the raid bosses to do it too.
 
A special type of transphobia called "dealing with a tranny".

It's literally all it takes - the difference in being told about a transgender person and actually dealing with a transgender person. It only take a few times for the story of "they're just living their lives and are completely normal people" to completely wash away and I'm glad it's starting to get more widespread. FF14 out here doing the lord's work.
A friend of mine who has sadly drank the troon Koolaid (he's autistic and has a bad relationship with his divorced parents, go figure) has dragged me to one of those non-advertised venues that are basically just a large plot built to look like a modern living room (you know the ones).

People with nothing to do all they sit around in there and chat nonstop either in /say , /tell or /party chat, but the one night I was there, there was this insufferable mod beast who used the whole nine yards of modding to be some sort of 3 meter tall vampire lady and constantly raved about how having large tits was great for her euphoria or whatever the fuck, and each and every time they shared those feelings with the room everyone stopped typing for a good 30 seconds until the gambling addicts asked for another deathroll lol

So imo, even troons cannot stand each other's presence, plus having a conversation with them is impossible because they chat like they are just monologueing and only shower you with some half-hearted compliments to string you along for more monologues.
 
Yeah that’s the thing, I haven’t played this game in almost a year and it really feels like I’ve detoxed from something. Like I’ve just gained perspective on the community and how it impacted me as a person. I also don’t really remember missing the community or the game itself which is so fucked because WoW classic was a way different story for me.
 
I'm also not a fan of how overly sexual they are (the troons). Like every little thing in existence is a kink of theirs,

Yeah. The Gaia/Ryne thing is a great microcosm of what we're talking about and it irritates me that any time someone mentions them you have the sexpests crawling out of the woodwork.

There was an attempt for a while to reference the Ultimate as 'Lesbians Ultimate' instead of just shortening it to a three letter abbreviation like literally every other Ultimate in the game.

I'm just sick of seeing Hrothgars in speedos, gross comments everywhere, sexualized adventurer plates, etc. A little innuendo or whatever is fine, but it seems to be the only common ground the bulk of the XIV fanbase seems to have. I say fanbase because there are folks who aren't troons who also participate in this shit.
 
I genuinely just wish that SE would make a serious effort of enforcing their own TOS for a game that is still supposed to be rated T.
Like, yeah, okay, probably can't do much about whatever glam players decide to wear (though I think pandering to the pervs by making the likes of the 2B dress unisex was a mistake), since they are just using assets that are actually in the game. The hordes of Speedo Hroths are really gross and I taste bile every time I see one, but I can concede that they are probably not breaking TOS by just using glams that are put in the game by the devs.

But is it really not possible to do something, anything, about the omnipresent advertising/spam about ERP "venues" and shit? Or the sexualized adventurer plates, links to gross ERP pages on character search descs, etc? I guess not, given they also haven't been able to do anything about all the RMT spam for years on end, though.
I dunno. It is just supremely irritating to open PF and see half the entries just be advertisements for open ERP clubs. Like, just. Fuck off and die, you disgusting gooners.
 
To stay on topic I had a similar reaction to the Vamp Fatale fight. Ordinarily a leather-clad chick with a whip wouldn't make be blink twice in a JRPG or even a few innuendos, but knowing this game's community you just know whoever wrote the lyrics was pandering to troons. Plenty of people in youtube comments praising how 'accurate' and 'kinkpositive' it was.
Meanwhile japanese bros: "Haha, cool and catchy song."

So imo, even troons cannot stand each other's presence
You put a bunch of people who make their entire existence about being the center of attention in the same space and it's just a recipe for disaster. It just devolves into a hot mess of weirdos tripping over themselves to be so unique and quirky and annoyingly obnoxious, as if those qualities are even good to begin with, dialing up their insufferable personalities to 100 and dragging everyone else into a game of attention tug of war they neither care for nor asked for. No, they cannot even stand being around each other because another troon around them is just another person trying to suck away attention from them. That's why they like to invade troonless spaces, there's less competition.

But is it really not possible to do something, anything, about the omnipresent advertising/spam about ERP "venues" and shit?
I black listed all the words that these people use and muted them so so it's done a lot to filter the adds. I also made a tab on my chatbox with shout and yell chat disabled. So even the fags who try to cheese the mute system by using copy pasted font macros can't get their stupid gay venue ad to appear for me. it's not perfect and sometimes things do slip through the cracks, but it's miles better than before.

Yeah. The Gaia/Ryne thing is a great microcosm of what we're talking about and it irritates me that any time someone mentions them you have the sexpests crawling out of the woodwork.
I get the same reaction whenever I mention Thancred and Urianger in the same sentence. "OMG GAY DADS!? YASSS! THANCRED FINALLY SAW THE LIGHT AND REALIZED HE PREFERS DICK OVER ICKY WOMEN"

Although, mostly this is an issue I get with fujos whom I also deeply despise and wish all of them can take their weird fetish for gay men and fuck off into the ether.
 
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Wait you can blacklist words!? Holy shit i can block out faggy ads that ruin my game whenever i dare to enter a city.

Personally i havent experienced most of the tranny shit, mostly just bad/dumb players. I do remember a tranny from one of the duty roulette, the tranny entered and said "Trans life matters" i put in chat "im tired boss" and it went ballistic saying i was being transphobic and what not when i replied "that being phobic implies im scared, which im not" it lost it shit and asked the others to vote to kick me, they did like the sheep they are and i was left speechless at the interaction . The person just could have ignored me but they had to make it about themselves and such. It has become tiring, but more so in games and especially in FF14 to have to see or interact with said trannies because they are always one short fuse of just melting down over dumb shit.
 
Wait you can blacklist words!? Holy shit i can block out faggy ads that ruin my game whenever i dare to enter a city.

Personally i havent experienced most of the tranny shit, mostly just bad/dumb players. I do remember a tranny from one of the duty roulette, the tranny entered and said "Trans life matters" i put in chat "im tired boss" and it went ballistic saying i was being transphobic and what not when i replied "that being phobic implies im scared, which im not" it lost it shit and asked the others to vote to kick me, they did like the sheep they are and i was left speechless at the interaction . The person just could have ignored me but they had to make it about themselves and such. It has become tiring, but more so in games and especially in FF14 to have to see or interact with said trannies because they are always one short fuse of just melting down over dumb shit.
Trannies are why people support anti-tranny shit, beyond the moral and spiritual reasons that trannyism is degenerate shit. They're just that insufferable to be around.

Though personally, I'll extend it to a -gender nonsense that infected this sphere of things for a bit. "Non-binaries" and they/xer special snowflakes are equally annoying if you ever had the misfortune to be in a guild with those. (Guess who had that exact experience.)
 
it lost it shit and asked the others to vote to kick me, they did like the sheep they are and i was left speechless at the interaction
Count your blessings that you were able to get out of that immediately. Personally, I'd prefer the vote kick over listening to them cry about it for the entire dungeon. It's not worth it, especially when they can grief, make things take longer and just be a general pain in the ass for the rest of the party.
 
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