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Seriously, what can the devs even put into the game at this point to save it? Dawntrail fucked it all over so badly that it'll be a miracle if they can figure out anything at this point.
 
Kane Lives said:
Final Fantasy X is the sole mainline game that hasn't been thoroughly mined out yet. The only references it got so far was a paid Tidus costume (might be others as well), and a small Thunder Plains reference in the Eden raids.

EDIT: actually come to think of it, I think XIII also hasn't been touched. Unsure why though. Maybe because they can't jam in a Lightning reference every five minutes lol.
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The twinning was entirely 13 references in the enemy roster.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
Too bad that's a no-go in the lore; his soul's already gone into the Lifestream to be reincarnated, though admittedly I could still see the writers pulling something out of their asses to bring him back. Same with Zenos, really.
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There are a ton of Zenos simps who still crash out over his death and refuse to let him go and unironically demand the writers bring him back. Some genuinely believe Ishikawa hates him and they claim her writing was mean to him in Endwalker or something. There was one really obsessive Zenos fan in particular on Xitter who despises Ishikawa for killing her husbando off and claims she can write Zenos better than her.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
Seriously, what can the devs even put into the game at this point to save it? Dawntrail fucked it all over so badly that it'll be a miracle if they can figure out anything at this point.
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They are already speaking of fucking killing the game again to make something new out of it.
 
Shieldman said:
Has there been any talk of dropping MSQ requirements towards the next expansion?

I doubt I'll return anytime soon but if I do I dread the prospect of dragging myself through what remains of DT (stopped around the .2 patch)
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I still think it is so fucking dumb that they didn't do that for DT: could have given the option to start as some adventurer who goes to Tural and impresses trooncat with their strength or continue playing as John Fantasy. Sure locking all content that came before DT behind the MSQ could have been akward but eh whatever.
 
RIPRhongoBongo said:
I'd lose my shit if Sphere Break somehow snuck in
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Scream Aim Fire said:
Seriously, what can the devs even put into the game at this point to save it? Dawntrail fucked it all over so badly that it'll be a miracle if they can figure out anything at this point.
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If they did a Field Ops/Deep Dungeon combination Bozja where the deep dungeons were scattered around the map with special loot and giving keys to access a main primary "challenge" dungeon with big boy rewards like mounts and horizontal progression gear as an alternative to raid gear and it was more focused on smaller groups instead of Fate-trains
that had Sphere grid progression with each role starting at separate corners of the grid but giving players free right to progress how they see fit along sphere grids with progression saved on a role, not job basis, then Maybe I'd be interested.

Because what I described is basically just PoE2 maps as side content lmao, just they have the ability to have a sphere-grid progression because X did it first.
 
Kane Lives said:
The "Ascians are back" emergency supply is well within reach...
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Sorry to double post like a faggot but "ThoSE RobES WilL GivE YoU AwaY aS an AsCiAn!" Ending dialogue of the latest patch made me madder than it had any right to be. Like they had to 100% be sure to say "HEY GUYS ASCIANS AGAIN!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!" instead of just....letting it sit on the obvious signifier of the robes. That the dialogue couldn't help but make sure the viewer knows it's ascians. I Know FF14 fans are stupid generally but that was genuinely incredibly insulting lol.

But yeah nah they already are in that well.
It was dry but they threw the corpses of all the other ascians in and are now drinking the putrefied liquids seeping from the bodies and calling it fresh water.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
Seriously, what can the devs even put into the game at this point to save it? Dawntrail fucked it all over so badly that it'll be a miracle if they can figure out anything at this point.
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I don't think anything, and it's more an issue of the game being as old as it is rather then Dawntrail being an issue.

There's only so many ways you can repackage Tank / Heal / DPS content into Dungeons/Trials/Raids because the core game is the same throughout and you're just doing the same things over and over again in slightly different areas.

There's a million things they could do, but I think a realistic list would be as follows.
- Shake up player gearing a bit - make the substats more worthwhile and impactful and have more places where you're making gear decisions. Buff Piety and Tenacity, they still wont ever be BIS in raids but should feel much better in dungeons/everything else. Longer term, examine the gear system and have the gear be much more malleable - a better upgrade system and more use of it would go a long way. Reducing the amount of slots a character has would make gear more impactful too, and jewelry is already low-impact (being 25% of a chest/pants).
- Larger scale content - make a 72 person raid, even if you break it up into groups of 8 or 24. Make a new one or just put those same people into an existing 24 man with everything turned up by 3x.
- More solo/challenge content. This used to get filled in by Job quests (not role quests) but more things you do by yourself, like a small scenario where you're a healer trying to keep a Grand Company Squad alive in some capacity.
- An expansion of the Adventurer Squadron, Duty Support, and Retainer systems - where in Adventurer Squadron characters can either be customized or "ghosted" like Retainers can and the gear has an impact in dungeons. Longer term, a system where you're able to have your character be a Adventurer Squadron character for other players - selecting some fields like a retainer, using your gear. Maybe you have a guild card you hand out, maybe it's random for players you've interacted with - but it would be a neat asynchronous thing for a system that already exists.

Those are things I think would be neat that could be done fairly simply in the current game.
 
The “Ascians were brought back because the writers slammed the panic button” argument I see in the community as a whole would hold a lot more water and be believable if 7.3 and future patches revealed they brought back Emet (especially if Hyth returns with him,) or they brought back the other unsundered, the sundered ones we took out popped up again, Fandaniel/Amon drags himself out of wherever he was sent to get revenge, we see hints that Zodiark and Hydaelyn returned, etc. But there is no sign of any of this happening so far. In fact bringing Ascians back for fanservice in general would require such a gigantic rewrite of a story planned out ages in advance in such a short span of time.

I know they occasionally rewrite or add things in but nothing on this level. Granted I could be wrong and there could be a grain of truth to a panic button being slammed or feedback had a influence on this current story but the chances are extremely slim with how the msq is written and planned out. Not to mention the Ascians we see now are ones we knew nothing about prior to DT and had very little to no relevance during the ARR-EW story saga. We also don’t know if the other ones we never met yet are even involved with Halmarut’s and Calyx’s plan. One of them could just be like Nabriales where we off them with little fanfare.

I just think whole “Ascians returned as a panic button” has turned into a dead horse argument that the general community outside of this place won’t stop beating.
 
Baron Reginald said:
That the dialogue couldn't help but make sure the viewer knows it's ascians. I Know FF14 fans are stupid generally but that was genuinely incredibly insulting lol.
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It really stands out comparing it to how Fandaniel was revealed in 5.3: Hidden from our face while establishing a rapport with Zenos, then reveals Asahi's face, then flashes his symbol. It gave us two whole patches of "Who the fuck is this guy?" before slamming us with the Asican connection.

Really hoping this is more of Hiroi/Kate being pants on head retarded and going "WE HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE SHE'S AN ASICAN OTHERWISE THEY MAY NOT GET IT" because if this is the new people writing this, 8.0 is going to be in very big trouble. For what it's worth though, I'm sure this is still Hiroi/Kate, it's 7.5/7.55 that we may start to see the new people writing. (like how Wuk Lmao was introduced)
 
BlazikenLover said:
I still think it is so fucking dumb that they didn't do that for DT: could have given the option to start as some adventurer who goes to Tural and impresses trooncat with their strength or continue playing as John Fantasy. Sure locking all content that came before DT behind the MSQ could have been akward but eh whatever.
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They already have a neat system with UI included in the New Game + function.

Imagine being able to pick story chapters out of the book at your leisure and not being walled off from raiding with your friends or accessing top level gear when you reach the appropriate level.

Completing story chapters could have reworked rewards to entice new players to complete them.

SnowBall said:
I just think whole “Ascians returned as a panic button” has turned into a dead horse argument that the general community outside of this place won’t stop beating.
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Wanna hear a tired argument? "DT is pig vomit because is setting up a new story, like ARR!" The absolute insane cope of that line of thinking.
 
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