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Decided to torture myself looking through 4chan archives for Zodiark trancer drama and I want an hour of my life back, wasn’t worth it. So many stupid takes on the game’s plot and characters that rival the official forum and people with no reading comprehension.

Anyways got fisher to level 100 so hooray for that.
 
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MakePlace isn't a plugin (ok, it *also* is but that's besides the point and you need to make something in the application to be able to CTRL-C CTRL-V it with the plugin) and is instead against the ToS for unauthorised reuse of game assets. If you want to get into housing, I highly recommend downloading it so that you can better work out what you can make before buying/crafting everything. Just know that turning off Cash Shop items doesn't prevent event items and promotional tie-in items from being in the list. Turning off Marked Prohibited does, but it also prevents housing items buyable from Beast Tribes (As well as the Bahamut Miniature, Altar to Pazuzu, and EW/DT Bicolour Gemstone items) from being in lists.
 
You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
 
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You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
Well when the communities experience with "mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue" comes from little more than anime/manga you don't exactly get an informed opinion.
 
You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.

Nah, that's about right.

The good things about XIV is the amount of meaningful details and world building that was done to establish the setting. You don't see that a lot in MMOs or JRPGs for the most part, so if you're someone who routinely delves into that shit it is eye-opening.

I've always said XIV's story is good for an MMO, and above average for a JRPG (because virtually all JRPGs devolve into fighting the embodiment of death/entropy/nihilism/etc in the body of a young girl) but that's okay. It is well crafted for the genre/medium it is in.

You generally can tell the folks whose entire media diet consists of Hollywood blockbusters, Triple A gaming titles and the Big Bang Theory and those who have more diverse interests. I'm not saying you need to be reading Tolstoy or whatever, but just going outside of your comfort zone.

It's not really surprising considering the IP and the medium.
 
I've always said XIV's story is good for an MMO, and above average for a JRPG (because virtually all JRPGs devolve into fighting the embodiment of death/entropy/nihilism/etc in the body of a young girl) but that's okay. It is well crafted for the genre/medium it is in.
There's a few times the embodiment of a complex emotion or concept is sometimes in a weird blob or testicle monster instead.
 
You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
Well funny that because the entire post-ARR story was written the way it was because the writer got inspired by Game of Thrones (specifically the Red Wedding, which aired not very long before) so they wanted to turn FFXIV into dark and edgy politics (which is why it went from childish whimsical good vs evil fantasy to GoT from 2.0 to 2.1). Than Yoshi-P got mad and made them undo everything so that's why in HW we find out (acktually everyone is still alive, even Nanamo, it was actually just a sleeping potion, anyway we're all good now) so absolutely nothing in that entire 100+ quests of post-MSQ actually mattered and was a complete and utter waste of time. (Seriously they need to just delete everything in post-ARR related to the Nanamo bullshit and just focus on the Iceheart and the dragons which is the only part of post-ARR that's actually relevant to HW).
 
Well funny that because the entire post-ARR story was written the way it was because the writer got inspired by Game of Thrones (specifically the Red Wedding, which aired not very long before) so they wanted to turn FFXIV into dark and edgy politics (which is why it went from childish whimsical good vs evil fantasy to GoT from 2.0 to 2.1). Than Yoshi-P got mad and made them undo everything so that's why in HW we find out (acktually everyone is still alive, even Nanamo, it was actually just a sleeping potion, anyway we're all good now) so absolutely nothing in that entire 100+ quests of post-MSQ actually mattered and was a complete and utter waste of time. (Seriously they need to just delete everything in post-ARR related to the Nanamo bullshit and just focus on the Iceheart and the dragons which is the only part of post-ARR that's actually relevant to HW).
I remember seeing the trailer for HW when it was revealed and I recall there was a scene with Lolorito looking menacingly at the camera and it seemed that they were setting him up to have a bigger role in HW than he actually got. Which was one of the reasons why the actual conclusion to the Sultana plot felt weird.
 
Are there images of her on Rule34 as well?
Yes. Way less than Y'shtola people can't stop spanking it to the cat. Never seen one super coomer devote somewhere in the range of a couple thousand dollars to commissions for porn of their character and Lyse though. That's true for Y'shtola though.
 
Yes. Way less than Y'shtola people can't stop spanking it to the cat. Never seen one super coomer devote somewhere in the range of a couple thousand dollars to commissions for porn of their character and Lyse though. That's true for Y'shtola though.
Honestly, I just assume that a lot of brown-skinned characters with white hair in anime and games like Y'shtola, Cia, Xehanort, etc. are all some stylized hybrid form of Iberian/Italian/Egyptian, they don't really have sub-Saharan nigger features.
 
Well funny that because the entire post-ARR story was written the way it was because the writer got inspired by Game of Thrones (specifically the Red Wedding, which aired not very long before) so they wanted to turn FFXIV into dark and edgy politics (which is why it went from childish whimsical good vs evil fantasy to GoT from 2.0 to 2.1). Than Yoshi-P got mad and made them undo everything so that's why in HW we find out (acktually everyone is still alive, even Nanamo, it was actually just a sleeping potion, anyway we're all good now) so absolutely nothing in that entire 100+ quests of post-MSQ actually mattered and was a complete and utter waste of time. (Seriously they need to just delete everything in post-ARR related to the Nanamo bullshit and just focus on the Iceheart and the dragons which is the only part of post-ARR that's actually relevant to HW).

Do you have a source for any of this? Cos a lot of the 'Nanamo bullshit' does factor in later down the line, it was just awkwardly dealt with in HW.
 
You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
The major thing, is that I think it's acceptable for what it is and enjoyable enough up until EW/DT and the major reason people hype it up is because it's an okay story.
For a MMORPG.
Its a low general bar, for a subset of games that generally had no bar to begin with, so it easily excites a lot of people. Especially when it started to cater to the wider anime crowd, also another subset of genre with absolutely no bar for good writing.
 
Do you have a source for any of this? Cos a lot of the 'Nanamo bullshit' does factor in later down the line, it was just awkwardly dealt with in HW.
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You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
I think it's important to distinguish between hyping ARR up for a good story, and using it as the absolute bottom floor of XIV MSQ, prior to Dawntrail. ARR (and to a lesser extent, Stormblood) feels like it's currently undergoing the Star Wars prequel treatment, where it just looks good in comparison to the utter dogshit that was DT. I won't defend how poorly paced the MSQ of the story was, but it felt like they were actually trying then, rather than serving up slop and expecting you to treat it like gold.

There used to be a time when the collective community thought that we would never sink back to the depths of mediocrity that ARR represented. How optimistic that faith turned out to be, given how DT is now the new floor of dogshit story XIV would be known for.
 
You know as infantile as DT’s writing is the bar was never high to begin with since day one. I see ARR and HW get jacked off for having mature, complex gritty, nuanced writing with political intrigue but I really fail to see that at all. It’s definitely much better than DT but again the bar is so low on the ground. They’re as gritty and mature as a fantasy novel aimed at pre teens. The themes and politics for that era feel like a Game of Thrones fanfic written by a 13 year old weeb. This game’s writing has never gone beyond shonen anime GoT and people should stop pretending it ever did. Honestly I think it’s just an age thing for me because I used to be one of those people but now I’m older and it doesn’t impress me anymore.
I don't think the writing of any FFXIV expansion is particularly mature and I don't think its really trying to be, it's visually pleasing fantasy locales with some wars sprinkled in. Dawntrail is just so bland that characters saying "shite" is fiery in comparison.

I will say though my praise is aimed less at the MSQ and more at the side content in both ARR and HW. Some of the side content in this game gets a pretty different (though yeah, not necessarily smarter) tone eg the Dark Knight questline or Werlyt compared to Hildibrand. That, and in ordinary sidequests, they generally seem to be able to get away with more stuff in them and I think it's where XIV's biggest strength as an MMO shines, getting you immersed in the scenery, which is what I was trying to express felt like such a step down in DT, not the MSQ.
 
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