Science Feeling lonely? You're not alone

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An avid musician, John Francis likes to let his banjo do the talking. And at one point, that was the ONLY talking he did. On his 27th birthday, he decided he had to do something really different – to not speak for an entire day. Just a day.

But that one day turned into two days, then a week, then a month. Ultimately, he did not say one word to another human being for 17 years.

That's right: At 27, Francis decided to stop talking, period. And he stuck with that decision until he was 44 years old. "There were about four times when by accident I did speak, when I bumped into someone at the grocery store, and I said, 'Excuse me,'" he told correspondent Susan Spencer.

He spent those quiet years hiking, camping, and making art. He says he really didn't miss conversation. It wasn't working for him anyway. "I would listen just enough to think I knew what someone was gonna say," Francis said. "And then I'd stop listening, which in effect cuts communication."

That feeling of being disconnected went hand-in-hand with something bigger: Loneliness. "I think I was lonely before I started this in the sense that I didn't want to be alone with myself. And that makes you lonely," he said.

But anyone who feels lonely is far from alone. According to a recent study, nearly half of Americans now say they sometimes or always feel alone, and one in five says they rarely or never feel close to anyone.

So, to be lonely, do you have to be alone?

"No," former Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy. "Because it's about the quality of your connections with people. It's not just how many friends you have. It's about, do those friends know you authentically?"

Dr. Murthy made headlines when he called loneliness an epidemic. He even says loneliness can be fatal. "The increased mortality associated with loneliness is equal to the increased mortality we see with smoking 15 cigarettes a day," said Dr. Murthy. "It's in fact greater than the mortality associated with obesity."

It doesn't matter who you are, or even how old you are. "The assumption that many people often have is that it's older people who are lonely, but it turns out youth and young adults may have the highest rates of loneliness."

Spencer asked, "You think younger people may be more likely to be lonely than older people?"

"That's what some recent studies have in fact indicated."

And especially among millennials, the ever-present phone may in part be why. Among the people who use social media the most, the higher the odds are of feeling lonely.

Dr. Brian Primack at the University of Pittsburgh heads the Center for Research on Media, Technology and Health, says the more social media we use, the lonelier we are likely to be. "This is totally counterintuitive," said Spencer.

So, why would someone with 3,000 Facebook friends feel lonely? "One is this idea of social comparison," said Dr. Primack. "People are able to take 300, 400 pictures of themselves and post that one that makes them look like they are that much more thin or that much more attractive or that much more successful. The impression from the outside can easily be on social media, 'Wow, I can't measure up with my very normal life.'"

John Francis agrees that social media has contributed enormously to people feeling alone. "Someone said just recently to me that, 'If you have four really good friends, you're a lucky person,' [as opposed to] 4,000 likes."

Whether or not social media is to blame, loneliness is not unique to this country. The government of the United Kingdom has now created a Minister for Loneliness, to study why people are lonely, and then figure out what kinds of interventions might help smooth that out.

If the U.S. had a minister of loneliness, psychotherapist Traci Ruble might be it. "I believe that everybody gets lonely. Period," she said.

With that in mind, a few times a month Ruble and her team set up impromptu offices on the streets in San Francisco. They sit and listen to total strangers for free.

Spencer asked, "When you first proposed this idea, how did your colleagues react?"

"They thought I was crazy!" she laughed.

But four years later, her community listening project, called Sidewalk Talk, is 3,200 volunteers strong, in 48 cities around the world.

Spencer said, "But most people would think that, 'Well, I don't want to tell a stranger.'"

"Actually, people open up to strangers more easily than they do people they know," said Ruble. "A few months ago, I had a young guy sit down – he was just fresh out of college – and he said to me, 'I didn't realize that work was gonna be like this, that I would sit in a cubicle all day looking at a screen talking to no one.' And he didn't say anything else. He just sat and cried for about 10 minutes. And then he said, 'Huh, great, I feel so much better, thank you.' And then he left."

Spencer asked, "Which do you think is lonelier: to be with people and not feel that you're fully communicating, or to actually physically be by yourself?"

"The loneliest that I felt was when I was with someone," John Francis said, "but I was still lonely."

Francis started talking again in 1990. That part of his personal journey, he says, was over. "I climbed a mountain, and at this bottom of this mountain I was lonely. And on the way up, I found that, 'No, you're not lonely. You're just alone.' It just turned into solitude. And solitude was something that you craved, you wanted, you looked for."

Inspired by nature from early on, today at 72, Francis is an environmentalist, an author, and – remarkably – a compelling public speaker.

"Do you get lonely today?" Spencer asked.

"I got a wife and two kids. No, I don't think so!" he laughed.

It's the sort of happy ending that all the folks we met would like see more often.

Dr. Murthy said, "Our social connection is the foundation on which we build healthy and fulfilling lives."

Ruble said, "I would like people to start to notice how much they need actual connection. We need vitamins, we need vegetables, we need clean air, and we need connection."
 
to give him credit, sometimes i just want to cut conversation with everyone bc most of the time people only care about drama
That's why I spend most of my time in a refrigerator box under the overpass.
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Got a PhD without talking (in a meaningful way). Remind me what viva voce translates to...

For those who don't know a viva voce is the "exam" at the end of a PhD where you answer questions and talk about your work with a panel of experts in your field to determine if you know your shit and actually did the work you claim in your thesis. Those people ultimately decide your fate.
 
Maybe people are lonely because everyone would rather stare at their phones than make eye contact with you, and on the off chance they listen to you anyway, depending on your environment you'll get a lynchmob trying to ruin your life if you say the wrong thing so trying to connect over real feelings and beliefs while having a heart attack every time you feel the crunch of an eggshell under your feet feels like more trouble than it's worth.
 
to give everyone credit, if you don't care about drama you're on the wrong site.

Tbf there’s a clear line between IRL drama and KF drama because kf drama requires talking points and demonizes powerleveling and self-aggrandization. Listening to someone pull a Dobson monologue irl is boring and there’s no way to meaningfully interact.
 
Tbf there’s a clear line between IRL drama and KF drama because kf drama requires talking points and demonizes powerleveling and self-aggrandization. Listening to someone pull a Dobson monologue irl is boring and there’s no way to meaningfully interact.
We also make a point of staying out of the drama directly and jeering on the sidelines. Tards who inject themselves directly into the drama (Queen of Pole) get roundly mocked and ostracized.
 
I think my personal record without saying a single word was 3 or 4 days.
I think my personal record is around 4 days as well. That's another thing that makes me doubt the claims in the article of him being silent for 17 years. After only four days, when I had to speak again it was a bit painful and my voice was really rough; I can't imagine speaking after being silent for months is a pleasant experience.
 
I remember there was this home-rec teacher in my school who gave his class an assignment to his students that they can't talk for a week then had to read aloud a 25 paragraph essay. Supposedly it was to "teach them that verbal social interactions are more important than we think." Pissed everyone off at the school and I remember the mother of a friend who went to that class complaining to mine that he hadn't talked in 4 days. Most of the kids went "lolno" and talked when they went home but some did the whole week and were hoarse for awhile. Next year everyone got smartphones and barely talked to each other.

Most people who don't talk for a few years tend to forget "how" to speak so they sound like deaf people. Pressing X just on the basis that he "accidentally" spoke.
 
The Virgin no-speaker banjo dude vs. the Chad North Pond Hermit

Hermit caught after 27 years in Maine woods
APRIL 11, 2013A man who lived as a hermit for decades in a makeshift camp in the woods and may be responsible for more than 1,000 burglaries for food and other supplies has been caught by a determined game warden who was fed up with the thefts.

Christopher Knight, 47, was arrested when he tripped a surveillance sensor while allegedly stealing food from a camp for people with special needs in a small town in the far north-eastern US state of Maine.

Authorities on Tuesday found the campsite where they believe Knight, known as the North Pond Hermit in local lore, lived for up to 27 years. Knight's living quarters included a tent covered by tarps suspended between trees, a bed, propane cooking stoves and a battery-run radio, which he used to keep up with the news and listen to talk radio and a rock station, authorities said.

Some residents say they have been aware of the hermit for years, often in connection with break-ins. During questioning after his arrest Knight said that the last verbal contact he had with another person was during the 1990s, state trooper Diane Vance said. "He passed somebody on a trail and just exchanged a common greeting of hello and that was the only conversation or human contact he's had since he went into the woods in 1986."

Christopher Knight, 47, known as the North Pond Hermit, after his arrest. Photograph: Reuters/Maine police
He was so well known to some summer cottage owners that they left food out for him so he wouldn't break in during the colder months. But others were hardly aware of the hermit living within their midst without detection since 1986. "I was born in 1987. He was there before I was," Rome resident Melissa Witham said outside her home.

Paul Anderson, a town councillor, acknowledged local talk about a man living alone in the woods. "I've lived in the town for 32 years and I've never, ever met the guy," Anderson said.

Since vanishing from his Maine home for no apparent reason and setting up camp when he was about 19, Knight sustained himself on food stolen from dozens of cottages, but his favourite target was the Pine Tree Camp, where game warden Sergeant Terry Hughes, who had been trying to nab Knight for years, set up a surveillance alarm, authorities said.

Knight was caught on Tuesday as he left the camp's kitchen freezer with a backpack full of food, they said. "He used us like his local Wal-mart," said Harvey Chesley, the camp's facilities manager.

Ron Churchill, owner of Bear Spring Camps in Rome, said employees maintaining his camp's lakeside cabins had seen the man thought to be the hermit in the past. Churchill said his business has lost propane containers to thefts, the latest of which were discovered on Wednesday.

Despite Maine's harsh winters, during which temperatures sometimes struggle to get above -12.2C (10F) for a week at a time, Knight stayed at his encampment and avoided making campfires so he wouldn't be detected, and he used the propane only for cooking, Hughes said. To stay warm he would bundle himself in multiple sleeping bags, authorities said.

When caught Knight was clean-shaven and still using his aviator-style spectacles from the 1980s.

"When we went to the site where he has been living, it only took a few minutes looking around and making observations such as ropes that were embedded in the trees that had grown around them that he used to hold his tarps up, shoes that were under rocks that had been there for years, there was enough indication to me … that he had been there for a lot of years," said Hughes.

Christopher Knight, the North Pond Hermit, in a surveillance video during one of the break-ins he allegedly staged to sustain himself. Photograph: Reuters/Maine police
The trooper said that the case of the North Pond hermit sometimes seemed a "myth" that might go unsolved and bringing it to a conclusion is "amazing".

"I think it's still sinking in," Vance said. "I don't think I will ever be involved in such an incident or case it this magnitude."

Knight had been charged only with the Pine Tree Camp burglary, in which $238 worth of goods were taken, and was being held at the jail on $5,000 bail for burglary and theft. It was not clear whether he had a lawyer.

Knight had attended a high school in Fairfield, about 20 miles (32km) away. Why he decided to disappear in the woods remained a question on Wednesday. Attempts to reach relatives were unsuccessful.

A man who lived as a hermit for decades in a makeshift camp in the woods and may be responsible for more than 1,000 burglaries for food and other supplies has been caught by a determined game warden who was fed up with the thefts.

Christopher Knight, 47, was arrested when he tripped a surveillance sensor while allegedly stealing food from a camp for people with special needs in a small town in the far north-eastern US state of Maine.

Authorities on Tuesday found the campsite where they believe Knight, known as the North Pond Hermit in local lore, lived for up to 27 years. Knight's living quarters included a tent covered by tarps suspended between trees, a bed, propane cooking stoves and a battery-run radio, which he used to keep up with the news and listen to talk radio and a rock station, authorities said.

Some residents say they have been aware of the hermit for years, often in connection with break-ins. During questioning after his arrest Knight said that the last verbal contact he had with another person was during the 1990s, state trooper Diane Vance said. "He passed somebody on a trail and just exchanged a common greeting of hello and that was the only conversation or human contact he's had since he went into the woods in 1986."

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Christopher Knight, 47, known as the North Pond Hermit, after his arrest. Photograph: Reuters/Maine police
He was so well known to some summer cottage owners that they left food out for him so he wouldn't break in during the colder months. But others were hardly aware of the hermit living within their midst without detection since 1986. "I was born in 1987. He was there before I was," Rome resident Melissa Witham said outside her home.

Paul Anderson, a town councillor, acknowledged local talk about a man living alone in the woods. "I've lived in the town for 32 years and I've never, ever met the guy," Anderson said.

Since vanishing from his Maine home for no apparent reason and setting up camp when he was about 19, Knight sustained himself on food stolen from dozens of cottages, but his favourite target was the Pine Tree Camp, where game warden Sergeant Terry Hughes, who had been trying to nab Knight for years, set up a surveillance alarm, authorities said.

Knight was caught on Tuesday as he left the camp's kitchen freezer with a backpack full of food, they said. "He used us like his local Wal-mart," said Harvey Chesley, the camp's facilities manager.

Ron Churchill, owner of Bear Spring Camps in Rome, said employees maintaining his camp's lakeside cabins had seen the man thought to be the hermit in the past. Churchill said his business has lost propane containers to thefts, the latest of which were discovered on Wednesday.

Despite Maine's harsh winters, during which temperatures sometimes struggle to get above -12.2C (10F) for a week at a time, Knight stayed at his encampment and avoided making campfires so he wouldn't be detected, and he used the propane only for cooking, Hughes said. To stay warm he would bundle himself in multiple sleeping bags, authorities said.

When caught Knight was clean-shaven and still using his aviator-style spectacles from the 1980s.

"When we went to the site where he has been living, it only took a few minutes looking around and making observations such as ropes that were embedded in the trees that had grown around them that he used to hold his tarps up, shoes that were under rocks that had been there for years, there was enough indication to me … that he had been there for a lot of years," said Hughes.

Christopher-Knight-in-a-s-010.jpg

Christopher Knight, the North Pond Hermit, in a surveillance video during one of the break-ins he allegedly staged to sustain himself. Photograph: Reuters/Maine police
The trooper said that the case of the North Pond hermit sometimes seemed a "myth" that might go unsolved and bringing it to a conclusion is "amazing".

"I think it's still sinking in," Vance said. "I don't think I will ever be involved in such an incident or case it this magnitude."

b i /8Knight had been charged onl/y with the Pine Tree Camp burglary, in which $238 worth of goods were taken, and was being held at the jail on $5,000 bail for burglary and theft. It was not clear whether he had a lawyer.

Knight had attended a high school in Fairfield, about 20 miles (32km) away. Why he decided to disappear in the woods remained a question on Wednesday. Attempts to reach relatives were unsuccessful.

edit: Only problem being Christopher Knight is in fact a virgin. Or was as of his release from prison.
 
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