Fanfiction Horrors

[Petrusha the White]

And oh, to make matters worse...the author also headcanons Vi as 'transmasc' and her fans call her 'he' because she used the Chinese word for 'lady killer' and 'handsome man'.

Very weird how the character is still called a she in the fic.. in addition to going out of their way to make the other character a troon and then not even give her a penis. Like what even is the point? It can't even appeal to agp fetishists like this!

 

[Cnidarian]

What's the difference between the way that male and female people think?

 

[Big Miss Steak]

What's the difference between the way that male and female people think?

Might be beyond the scope of this thread my dude

 

[Cnidarian]

Might be beyond the scope of this thread my dude

Every page mentions women writing men that act and think like heterosexual women, so it sounded like a good place for either male readers to tell me how the thought processes of their characters are off, or for female readers to tell me what's familiar about them.

 

[Petrusha the White]

Every page mentions women writing men that act and think like heterosexual women, so it sounded like a good place for either male readers to tell me how the thought processes of their characters are off, or for female readers to tell me what's familiar about them.

It's still beyond the scope of this thread - and I kind of doubt it can ever be completely captured by anyone, some aspects of the opposite sex's mind will probably always (and possibly must always) be inaccessible to the other -- but I think a good place to start is romantic gestures that fics are often built around. For example: The gifting of a thematically appropriate stuffed animal is very appealing to women, but men as a general class will not give a shit about it. So if you're reading/writing a fic where a grown ass man does this to another grown ass man, it is pretty much literally always identifiable as a woman-written fic.
Also, in terms of smut fics, this is more of a trend than a hard and fast rule, but male-written smut fics tend to focus more on the appearance of the character while female-written smut fics tend to focus more on the interpersonal dynamics. Female fics will have a lot of text dedicated to the feelings and sensations (to the point where it might become unclear what the characters are doing/what position theyre in), while male fics usually have that kind of thing thrown in there as a token or only focus on one particular feeling (e.g. fear, overwhelming lust) is a way that is obviously eroticized. Male authors also use different terminology a lot of times, with theirs being more "pornified" or directly connectable to "mainstream" porn - good example of this is male authors saying "snuff" while female authors say "whump". (Hence me putting "mainstream" in scare quotes.) YMMV on these, though, it's just what I've observed.

The best way to clock the sex of a fic author is just to look at how they write two members of the same sex interacting together. It is very, very rare for people to be able to capture this between the sex they aren't - even if the author is, say, a woman who has brothers she's very close to, or watches a lot of male-oriented TV shows (written by men). they might broadly understand male-male interaction but will still underestimate or overestimate certain parts of it. e.g., banter between men is something that trips up a lot of women; some women fully don't understand banter and assume that the male characters are actually being mean to each other and don't like each other - other women do know that this is a way that men (to put it in female terms) express affection, but ultimately will still usually get the scope of it wrong, and have a very different idea of what constitutes acceptable targets for teasing even if they know it's not meant unironically.
Since so many fics are m/m written by women, you will see this a lot.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Since so many fics are m/m written by women, you will see this a lot.

Arguably it's difficult to find plot-heavy m/m written by a man to compare.

Tangent: remember alt.sex.stories back on Usenet, and the communities that descended from that? It seems like that would be a better comparison, e.g. comparing a 1998 fanfic to a 1998 a.s.s. story.

Fanfiction describes known characters and their dynamic, then usually adds smut, whereas straight-up written porn just describes its characters physically, and in their relationships to others when it's part of the attraction.

In the time of 56k warnings, that audience was more male, so instead of dialogue, or going deep into internal monologue with a character, you had an omniscient author cycling a set of adjectives over and over for each appropriate character, trying to hit the emotional keywords at the same time they were cycling their physical descriptors. It's hard to describe, but if you wanted "male gaze" in amateur erotic fiction, that was it: they were written for a reader who was currently actively masturbating, and the author had to keep up the stimulus-per-minute on a guessed reading speed vs. jerking speed.

I remember some early html site--was it Alt.Sex.Stories Repository?--having an adjustable auto-scroll, because readers were assumed to have their hands occupied.

I dunno guys; should have sent an anthropologist

 

[Troon Whisperer]

I remember some early html site--was it Alt.Sex.Stories Repository?--having an adjustable auto-scroll, because readers were assumed to have their hands occupied.

Yep, the ASSTR which finally died a couple of years ago. It's loss will not be mourned because it was a pedo haven

 

[Chandelier]

While I wait for Coming Home to be updated, I decided to take a detour to HexHomos' T4T fic. This is the author who previously wrote on her twitter that she heavily disliked Arcane before writing for it. She has since abandoned her Twitter and has moved her activity to BlueSky and Tumblr, where she re-posted the 4chan thread on the Twenty One Pilots song believed to be a JayVik song (which she blurred out the link to. It's actually a really good song). She also cropped out the soon-to-be infamous JayVik hug, which means she saw the leaks.


Cute, but let's see how that translates to your work. Here is the link to her fic. Archive.


And to answer your question, the fic is indeed formatted like this. Here is the author's note:

Perfect. Now let's get after it.

Spoiler

I noticed this in 'Catafalque', but it was made even more obvious here: Viktor comes off as your quintessential snarky progressive who thinks he's smarter than he is. This entire fic is about fucking - read, masturbating - while on one's period, and neither Jayce nor Viktor have the decency to approach the issue like adults. It reads like a Reddit confession where a pooner has a mental breakdown over a normal female physiological response that has not yet been nuked by T.

Also, getting hurt by kicking a metal trashcan? For as big as Jayce is? Weak.

I previously gave kudos to this author for her good writing, but there are times where it veers off into purple-prose territory with sayings, metaphors, similes or idioms that simply do not make sense. Toxin spots from what? "Devoid of the barest coordination" - from what? "Emotional outbursts so excessive they sound like criminal confessions"? This sounds like the author - who is FTM trans, btw, in case you didn't notice - knows nothing about periods despite being female. Not every woman becomes a murder machine while on her period. It's utterly stereotypical as to be both eye-rolling and offensive.

We also read that Viktor is so bad at group projects he'll purposely flunk them, and then acts surprised and shocked that anyone might dislike him. He reads as a terrible modern Millennial fucktard who would probably snark at you for not knowing a specific scientific term despite being a flunked out failed student.

His unsureness of whether to kick Jayce out is typical pooner indecision. You cannot write him as a smarmy, snarky motherfucker who 'knows what he's doing' to being afraid of kicking Jayce out because he's acting like Audrey Hale.

> Twelve in the evening
You mean morning?

What is with this modern Millennial writing? We got from serious, smart dialogue to WOW OH WOW and MAYBE JUST MAYBE I'LL BE AN ASSHOLE, OKAY? dialogue like it's a bad Bill Maher skit. New rule, OK? Don't insist you're better at writing League Lore when you can't even write these characters correctly.

> Perfectly in control of all his rational facilities
He just had a mental breakdown over getting his period, like he just got it for the first time.
> Race of Men
Haha, nice try, but you will YWNBAM.
> Aftertaste to his brilliance
He sure loves getting high of the smell of his own shit, doesn't he? Don't worry, her Viktor doesn't improve. At all.

Imagine you're this author thinking you're hot shit because you make a compendium of all JayVik interactions and you honestly, for the life of you, cannot tell the difference between an obstetrician and a proctologist. The former doesn't deal with things shoved up your ass, the latter does. This is just as egregious and retarded as her 'the warmth of your skin turns pure gold to goo' comment.

People really need to stop typing like Millennials/Gen Z/Gen Alpha. It absolutely spoils the mood of whatever you're trying to write and it a pure case of projection.

Viktor saying he isn't self-centered or anti-social or whatever while acting smarmy when Jayce is menstruating and not bothering to explain to him it's NBD means that yes, he is a self-centered motherfucker. And he's not an enjoyable one where you LIKE his bad attitude. He's just intolerable in the way snarky pooners are.

Ever heard of the term, 'absolute power corrupts absolutely'? You can have the nicest person on earth who checks off all the boxes and then watch them become absolute monsters once they get a smidgen of power. You'd think Viktor, being from the Undercity, would understand this. Humans are normally NOT good people, especially when deprived of resources/status is threatened/threatened in general. He's very naïve thinking this - and LoL Viktor wasn't even remotely convinced that humans would be rational enough to handle such power.

So, they kiss for the first time, and Viktor handles it like a pro because I guess we're to assume he's a slut or something? Whatever, it's a fucking weird thing to read. For a smut-not-smut, it is insanely moody, and reads like something Anita Sarkeesian would write. Both of them are biological women; they don't have toys or anything resembling a phallic object, they just rut on each other like pigs and fingerbang. 'Brusque' is not the word I'd use, but I'd definitely use 'plain awful'.

> Stirring of hot breast
Are we making cookies? This is akin to her 'his face was like a s'more' simile. It's awkward as hell and her beta needs to be whipped.

> Dispersing like a fractured link
Weird description for something vaguely liquid. When I read 'fractured link', I think of metal and steel.

And yes, Viktor was finger-banging Jayce while free bleeding, because pooners get triggered at feminine hygiene products.

> Apologizes for something he hasn't done
> Has a natural inclination to argue
> Doesn't understand these things contradict each other
> Extremely female-brained

Jayce is angry that someone caught him menstruating - even when he had every opportunity to tell Viktor to stop. He didn't, because drama, and treats this like a crime scene because menstruation is somehow evil to a pooner (it does remind them they are female after all).

BTW, Viktor never actually washes his bloody hand. He just touches every object and even the sheets with that hand. It's something the author vaguely addresses but never fixes. Nice.

I hate this dialogue, I really do. It makes these characters extremely unlikable. Endless snark is not a character trait; it just makes your audience hate them, and for very good reason.

> "Go throat a fork"
Weak-ass insult. Of course it comes from a pooner so they have no insult game whatsoever.
>Makes a mental note to ration his usage better
Ah, so they're both menstruating, it's just that Viktor, being on T, more or less lost his. And Jayce is so 'brilliant' and part of The Men that he can't even comprehend that feminine hygiene might be importantly. Instead, he free bleeds all over Viktor's clothes, bedsheets and more and then gets mad AT HIM for being a bitch about it. Fucking hell.

I'm getting 'Coming Home' vibes from this dialogue. Eugh.
> You smell like a hemorrhage
So...copious amounts of blood. About as bad as 'bloodpumper' and other shit this author has used. That's like me saying, 'Oh you smell like a burst artery'. The fuck does that even mean? Eyes have been rolled, indeed.

> They're both very uncool
Shut the fuck up.

If Jayce is bleeding that much, that usually means a uterine cyst has burst, which means you need to seek medical attention, now. If not, something is wrong. This guy bled through his underwear, pants, and the bedsheets. Maybe treat the issue with a little more respect, yeah?

> Hot tip: jokes are funny
And you aren't.

Oh wow, Viktor has a little bit of self-awareness that his snarky attitude has consequences. Your 'lover' and fuckbuddy-not-fuckbuddy has just had a very personal accident and is bleeding copiously, and you haven't done a thing to help. You're not being rational - you're being the stereotypical mouthy, bitchy, selfish pooner who needs her teeth knocked out.

> Brain's molar first response to facing something vulnerable
The molars are at the back of the mouth. You latch on with your canines and incisors. If you're going to use a tooth metaphor, use it right.
>Taking it as wild prey for teeth
What? No, really, what the fuck does this mean?
> Top is still bound
Ah, we've got the binding! Imagine the shape of those pancake tits.
> Squishy bits into a human ball
Are you made of Play-Doh?

Stop. Fucking. Talking. Like this. You aren't quirky. I also have to wonder why Jayce isn't keeping track of his periods if they're such an issue, like actual women do.

Yes, you are a complete fucking tool. The fuck is with this moodiness? You decide one minute that you like being kissed and fingered, and now you get angry when asked if you liked it. And to answer your question: yes, you are an asshole. Glad we agreed on something.

> It's a bit arousing, death threats aside
Can't decide whether you're offended or aroused, nice job. These people are moodier than drug addicts at a Waffle House.

He's asking you a normal question, Jayce: did you like the finger-banging or not? You being on your period doesn't give you the right to be a prick. I get you're eternally angry you don't have one, but shut the fuck up. Need I remind people this 'True and Honest' Man is still bleeding on the sheets, and absolutely refuses to use a tampon because he doesn't want to get penetrated? Pads exist. Menstrual cups exist. Clean yourself up, you filthy degenerate.

Why does this read like an MTF, not an FTM, wrote it? Oh wow, titties are touching!

I also audibly snickered at Viktor doing a genital inspection test. Usually troons would be mortified at this, but here we got a pooner doing just that. It's OK when they do it, it's inspirational.
> Miracle of science he doesn't have to wear one of these things anymore
What? Pads? Jayce wasn't wearing one otherwise there wouldn't be that much blood everywhere - unless he forgot to change it, making him a slob.

> Rubbing it until a dent is done
A DENT in a roid clit? OUCH. That made me cringe.

> Smells like the soap he keeps on his shelf
I thought he smelled like a haemorrhage?
> Swell of his dick
Clit or dick, make a decision, pooner.

> Raspy material and wet meat
I do not understand how this author thinks this arrangement of words makes it remotely erotic. It makes me think of a YouTube cooking tutorial of them slapping raw meat on the counter.

> Delayed embarrassment finally dawning on him
Huh? You had no issue finger-banging him before. Why are you embarrassed now?

Ha, notice the ARE YOU WINNING SON? meme?

Lmao, Jayce is also a pooner. Watch him get knocked the fuck over by a male tennis player. He'll flop like a ragdoll.

>How come they don't do this more often?
Well aside from the moody back-and-forth from pooners angry they don't have real dicks, maybe it's because it's literally your first time doing it? This couple has next to no chemistry; I would not shed a tear if Steven Seagal came in and started using them for Judo practice. They're as wooden as he is.

Imagine that: you're two lesbians pretending to be men, one of you is on your period, and one of you can't decide whether they want to come or not so you just get angry that you're reminded of the fact you're literally bleeding everywhere and making a goddamn mess and then you decide to leave your partner who is obviously horny unsatisfied on the bloody sheets so you can take a piss.

Yes, it's fucking ridiculous in retrospect. What was the author thinking? Who the fuck knows.

Hopefully you'll wash the goddamn bedsheets this time. Viktor's hand was still bloody and they never cleaned their clothes. Imagine the smell - like a hemorrhage, as the author put it. How quaint.

This was not as popular as her other works, but here were some comments.

Such a serious dissection...by being an intolerable son of a bitch. Jayce is so cute, he can't even use menstrual products correctly. Sad!

"Made for each other." We must've read a different fic, because that's not what I got. I got two moody, angry pooners who needed a deep dish fucking - with actual dicks, not with what they had. Eugh. I'm still not over those bedsheets.

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This next fic was her most popular, clocking it at around (as of this writing) 461 bookmarks. It's popular because there was an absolute rush and need for JayVik at the time, and those who delivered got the most attention. Archive here.

Nice.

Spoiler

So, like Catafalque, this fic actually starts off strong. Out of all the fics it's the best written, and the dialogue is on point. I didn't have much issues with this bit.


Now we're starting to get into Weird TM shit. This could have been cut and the scene would have remained unchanged.

"Not my scene" sounds an awful lot like modern speak. I can see Jinx or Vi use it, but not Viktor.

> Brown eyes
> Amber eyes
They're gold, you peon.

I did, in fact, like this. The chemistry was captured very well and I enjoyed the kiss. You can pretend Viktor is a male for a moment.

...have you seen ants? They will climb EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE to get food. Doesn't matter if it's near a sink, they'll make an ant bridge to get to it. If you have an ant problem (why?) you shouldn't be leaving food out, PERIOD.

>Staggering hormonal teens
Until we get to the 'my pussy is literally too dry and tight' line.

The author wrote in her AN that Jayce might have clocked Viktor on his own time. I sincerely wonder how, since Viktor is that private and won't even take his shirt off.

>I am predisposed to be tight
Huh. Wonder if that's due to the T, or something else. I wager it's the former. It's nothing foreplay can't fix. But hey, nothing spells good smut like a pooner having a tight pussy for a big ole dick!

> Cock
> Pussy
Pick one. We know that's a clit you're referring to. And Viktor's clit goes from swelling from arousal to being neglected within a single paragraph, so nice going Jayce.

Ah...there's the porn spread! Amazing how we got from 'pussy' to hole, because the latter is just oh so sexy. For someone written as being tight, they sure do take big dicked Jayce easily! Plugging in deep, yo.

Lemme guess: Viktor can't get preggers because he's on T, and that's why his pussy/man hole is oh so tight. Guys, it's GAY SEX, yo.

I wonder if we'll get any new updates with the new season. I wager we will, and I'll happily post them here. For now, enjoy ants eating that cake, Kiwis.

This fic had the most comments. Most of it were praising the characterization and writing, but these stood out to me.

Spoiler: pooners feeling seen

"I feel so seen!"
You're a bunch of straight women in denial. We all know you crave a big dick.

This one feels so fucking seen???!!

This one is weary of reading trans characters due to dysphoria. Naturally, she loves trans Viktor!

Now, for something a little lighthearted: least this one is self aware.

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This one writes the jokes itself. This was on ColeyDoesThing's video on ABO.



Breaking gender roles...by abiding by strict gender roles, lmao.

 

[Chandelier]

Double post I know, but Coming Home finally got updated. At long last, we have the smut chapter.

Spoiler: Chapter 9

Amazing how we got this far after all that gaslighting and self-denial. Viktor now admits he always wanted Jayce to admit his love for him, despite there being so little focus on Viktor's actual feelings on the matter. He just started getting horny once Jayce started batting his eyes. All this because he read Jayce's diary. Betrayal means nothing if you can get your dick sucked.

Now, if you remember, the earlier chapters clearly established Jayce as being very open with his feelings for Viktor, to the point their students gossiped about it. Viktor was written as being in denial over it as he was with Sky's feelings for him, even though Jayce was far, far more open about it than she was. There's no point in writing Viktor as being shocked Jayce has these feelings when he's made them clear from the beginning.

Yes, We still have. This sentence structure. Even during the smut.

Here, lemme change this sentence:
"Viktor could stay here for hours, with the smell of Jayce's cologne, his shampoo, and even his breath, (brushing against him), along with the slight scratch of stubble on his skin." See how much better that flows?

> The poor man cried tonight
Please, you've been a slave to his tears from the beginning. Reminder Caitlyn and Ximena forced Viktor to get over his normal feelings of resentment all because 'waaaah my son misses you waaaah'.

...We already went over this. Viktor read Jayce's diary - after being more or less told to do it by his mom and faghag friend - so he knows how much Jayce longs for him. He still couldn't conclude Jayce had feelings for him even after reading that, and still remained in denial. There's Idiots in Love, and Retards in Denial.

Now, we have Viktor apologizing for his poor behaviour even when he has no reason to. Jayce was the one who fucked him over, barely apologized, and now they have make up sex. Astounding. What amazing story telling.

>The childish way Viktor has behaved
Some of it was justified, especially after he forced Viktor to sign over his intellectual property rights - while on his deathbed - for their battery. It appears the author completely forgot about that plot.

And yes, that fucking dialogue does not go away.

Bitch can't even capitalize 'New Years'. Sad!


I'd fucking hate it, too, especially with this dialogue. Makes me want to go Taxi Driver on them.
> With this sort of, overexcited and nervous glee
Get a fucking beta or fire your current one, I AM BEGGING YOU

Here we go. Again with this sentence structure. You see. How bad it is? And how. Annoying it is? It's not hard to merge related sentences together: "Jayce is kissing at him with electrifying hunger, as if more than five seconds apart causes him pain." Not great, not terrible. But readable.

> I want more than just. Sex.
What about Grindr Greg, Viktor? You had no issue fucking him and even bragged about fucking him in front of Jayce. This little confession about his solitude is about as flat as this author's IQ.

> I'm difficult
Yeah, I'll say. But you're easy to get into bed because all it takes is a sob story diary entry.

> And Jayce is asking so sweetly. And he can't say no to that
MERGE THESE SENTENCES YOU LAZY BITCH


> Complains about his solitude
> Casually takes random people to his bed for random fucks
> Doesn't really value that solitude

I will admit, 'Fuck me like I mean something' would be hot if, you know, the story, sentence structure and dialogue were not so fundamentally retarded.

" Yeah. Yeah. Fuck." - Me when I read this

It's one thing to pine after someone you don't think reciprocates your feelings, it's another to have that person be so open about what they want from you that it's simply denial on your part to notice them. Viktor was not in the dark about how Jayce felt, especially after reading his diary. This is lazy writing.

> He wants to snap at him
You can't even stop being a catty bitch even during sex, can you? For shame.

Now, here comes the smut.

>Ugh fine
> HNNNNNGGG
> I wanna mhm
> That's haaaah
Oh it's THIS type of sex talk. Enough with the choking sounds or I'll let you die on the spot.

> Electric thumb of need and pleasure
...what? What an odd thing to say.

>Filthier of fantasies
Don't you mean filthiest fantasies?

> And it's surreal, the sight of him
See how easy it is to fix? I must admit, Viktor doesn't get many blow jobs in smut so it's nice to see him get treated for once. The BJ scene is kinda hot.

Ugh. You're really killing the mood here with that dialogue. It's funny how Viktor is the one carrying the scene here.

Ah, there's big dicked Jayce. No smut without that.

> Jayce kisses him so sweetly, in such a contrast from what they've just done
Again, see how easy this is fixed?

Nice choice on the sateen sheets. They're gonna need to be washed afterwards.

You repeated that line twice, and Jayce, again, made no secret of his feelings for Viktor. This is just redundant.

> Sound of a dying animal
Yeah, no. That's not sexy. That makes me think of something miserable; something having the life torn from it. 'Wow' is not the word I'd use for it. What a way to kill the mood.

> Jayce watches him so closely, as if cataloguing him (insert more pretty words of your choice here).
> Jayce licks at his nipple again and Viktor arches into him, each new moment of pleasure a moment where he's become further and further unraveled.
Eh, still a bit broken, but better than it was.
> Viktor swallows, feeling completely untethered underneath him
See how easy I can fix it? There's no excuse for such laziness.

> Look at yous
I'm getting, MA, LOOK AT THIS FUCKING CAT guy vibes. Or something from Goodfellas: "I can't believe yous, can't believe yous."
BTW, 'sacred space' is used at least three times in this section.

Can you use. Proper sentence structure. Once in your fucking lie.

> Needing something to do with all the feeling
Feeling of what?
> He feels The warm stickiness of himself on his abdomen
How much you wanna bet she wanted this done in two different sentences?

You mean an open mouthed kiss?

> Orgasm hits him, face twisting in ecstasy
Someone can't even use autocorrect

> Holy shit, holy shit
Yeah, that's my reaction, too.

> Ever ever
Period, please. PERIOD
> And then collapses next to him, (and) takes his hand
See how easy that was?

> Earnest right with him
What?

> He shivers Cold now
...is there another way to shiver in this context?
> he shouldn't be getting choked up over a sweater
Indeed, that's an ugly ass sweater. Wouldn't sell that shit to Goodwill.

> Viktor lets Jayce pull him closer, until his head is on Jayce's chest.
See how easy that was?
> And he can hear the heartbeat study in there
What's it doing? Preparing to be a proctologist?

Jayce asks Viktor how long he's had these feelings for him, which begs the question of whether all those open feelings Jayce had really were met with an autistic, retarded Viktor. He was not making a secret of it; their students thought they were a divorced couple. Viktor may be a loner but he wouldn't be immune to gossip like that. I'd would be so much better if he teased Jayce over it, while retaining his aloof, cold exterior. It'd be a helluva lot better than this.

> Like he always knew
> He knows it can't be true
One of these things has to be true, bud. Pick one.

Now, I remember that scene where Caitlyn thought Jayce had brought a hookup over. Viktor apparently couldn't read the signs then - and Cait was VOCAL about it - and remained ignorant ever since. Retards in Denial.

> It hurts too much to think of how long they could've had this
...we're really forgetting all the drama of the past chapters, haven't we? The betrayal, the soft moments neither of them picked up on, the edging from Caitlyn and Ximena? C'mon man!
> If we had fallen out
YOU DID HAVE A FALLOUT, YOU GODDAMN RETARD, THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF VIKTOR LEAVING. IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED IF THEY WERE A COUPLE OR NOT, THAT WAS A GODDAMN FALLOUT
Jesus Christ, imagine forgetting the entire starting point of your fic.

For the love of God. Stop talking. Like this.

> He can picture it so clearly: bundled up on a picket blanket, a white, snowy field around the and the sky a dizzying display of charged particles.

See? Much better. But you are going to need a thicker blanket than that. It gets -40 C up there, easily. You'll get frostbite in under five minutes. Trust a Leaf, eh?

So. The smut wasn't too too bad, but it was killed by that sentence structure and dialogue. Making noises like a dying animal makes me think of Waco, not a sensual scene. I've said numerous times sex dialogue will make or break a fic. Viktor was the MVP in the end, but goddamn the author almost threw it. The only thing I can give her is that Viktor is actually a male in this - doesn't excuse his shitty characterization, but still. No 'front hole' shit, just a real dick.

 

[Thiletonomics]

This M guy might be the most degenerate person I’ve seen in one of these threads and that’s saying something. His entire profile is thousands of fanfictions just about some poor anime girl or genshin/Pokemon/fire emblem character being violently raped and killed, always in excruciatingly high detail with overly sexual and cutsey writing.

I’m all for laughing at people with weird fetishes (that’s the main reason I post in this thread honestly) but there is something very wrong with this guy.

The only silver lining is he hasn’t done this to an actual woman (at least not that anybody knows of).

Okay, I did some digging because I'm in one of those moods and was curious about this person.
I'll just post my findings here.

This guy has a fanbox account (something like japanese patreon, I guess?).
I'm not sure if there's a way to see how many people are subscribed to his stuff.

He also has a discord, I did not join it; I doubt I'll have enough bleach stashed in my apartment to cleanse my brain from whatever's hiding in there.
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I also found the "depravity repository" where he seems to be active as well (his posts).
According to his posts, he's active on guro websites as well, especially gurochan (not that it's a big surprise).

If anyone wants to check out his discord and tell me what's going on there - be my guest.

Btw, someone on xitter wrote a tutorial on how to filter out M's fanfics, I'll just post this here because some people might want to know.
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M's FE Guro fic series has now officially reached the 1 MILLION word mark:



I do wonder how fanfic writers that get to a million+ words in their fics do it. You would assume that reaching 100k words in a fic would result in burning out.

 

[Petrusha the White]

I do wonder how fanfic writers that get to a million+ words in their fics do it. You would assume that reaching 100k words in a fic would result in burning out.

I know people who would call 100k bitch numbers. But they're also people who have a tendency of making an AU and then rewriting an entire series to follow it. Rewriting seven seasons of a TV show, even if you skip a lot of episodes, can rack up wordcount really quickly without the author burning out. Of course, every episode that they rewrite is a different individual fic (or a different individual ficlet published as a chapter within a larger fic, which is just acting as a collection), so that's probably a large part of it. I only know of one fic in my personal circle that broke the 250k mark while being one single fic - 400k words 127 chapters, hasn't been updated frequently since midway through 2020. The author didn't burn out tho, they're still writing tons for other franchises , I think they just hopped fandoms.

ETA: Though in your case I think you're just witnessing the power of fetishistic hyperfocus.

 

[soft breathing]

I do wonder how fanfic writers that get to a million+ words in their fics do it.

He's been at this for a bit over 4.5 years.

Series Begun: 2020-03-04
Series Updated: 2024-10-26

This would come down to ~600 words every day, assuming he's not using AI to generate portions of the text.

I really wonder where he's from (I do have a suspicion given his use of emoji & grammar), and if he has a job (if he resides where I think he does, he wouldn't need a job to get by).

 

[Petrusha the White]

I really wonder where he's from (I do have a suspicion given his use of emoji & grammar), and if he has a job (if he resides where I think he does, he wouldn't need a job to get by).

Where do you think he is? If it's a general location then it's not doxing a random fic author

 

[soft breathing]

Where do you think he is? If it's a general location then it's not doxing a random fic author

Germany or somewhere around that area. It's just a gut-feeling. The ^^ emote he's using a lot is insanely popular there, especially with terminally online millennials - which I'm also assuming he is. Same goes for putting ~ at the end of a word just to be quirky.

The "local time" on his "depravity repository" account kinda proves my point as well, I guess, since his local time is set one hour later than Germany's local time (unless they're not adapting to summer/winter time).



If the "local time" thing is accurate and takes the summer/winter time into account, he could be from Finland, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine, Greece... Although then my next guess would be Finland.

I might also be talking out of my ass here, obviously, but I love putting on my tinfoil-hat from time to time.

 

[Petrusha the White]

If he doesn't edit his fics well, you could probably clock Germany just off of capitalization errors. German authors writing in English will sometimes forget that random non-name nouns don't get capitalized. (Though I guess there could be other languages in the area that do this as well, I'm not really sure. Does Dutch do this?)

 

[Thiletonomics]

He's been at this for a bit over 4.5 years.

Series Begun: 2020-03-04
Series Updated: 2024-10-26

This would come down to ~600 words every day, assuming he's not using AI to generate portions of the text.

I really wonder where he's from (I do have a suspicion given his use of emoji & grammar), and if he has a job (if he resides where I think he does, he wouldn't need a job to get by).

M also has a Pixiv account. He posted the first part of the series on his Pixiv account in 2018:



So that comes out to about ~300-400 words/day.

 

[soft breathing]

If he doesn't edit his fics well, you could probably clock Germany just off of capitalization errors. German authors writing in English will sometimes forget that random non-name nouns don't get capitalized.

I've skimmed through some of his chapters with an ai-grammar-checker-tool (I just cannot be arsed to actually read his stuff) and there's no weird capitalisation. But also barely any typos so he's using a somewhat decent spellchecker, I guess.

But there's a lot of weird grammar choices, to pick a few:

- As she heard that, she was again overcome with countless possibilities it presented.

- What kind of an order was that?

- after all, what would be the purpose to just keeping all the Heroes that he summoned at the castle?

- The voice belonged to a red-haired girl who was almost just undressed as Madelyn and Bernie.

- With that done, she knelt and grabbed the hem of her white dress, then pulled it up, eventually getting it over her head. She removed on the ground after getting it off, her hands covering her chest [... irrelevant and nsfw].

Even the ai thinks his writing is shit btw; just found that a little funny.


While on the topic of AI: Out of curiosity I ran some of his (newer) writing through AI/GPT checkers and it seems like he's not using any of these tools to produce his 'fiction'.

(Though I guess there could be other languages in the area that do this as well, I'm not really sure. Does Dutch do this?)

Dutch only capitalises 'proper nouns' like names, cities and stuff like that (afaik); it's similar to English in that regard.
I think German is the only language that autistically capitalises every noun? I'm not sure though.

 

[Petrusha the White]

Any instances of the phrase "let go off" instead of "let go of"? I beta read for a German writer and I have to correct that every time.

 

[Chandelier]

Not only is this one yet another pooner 'Gacha for Gaza' fic, this one wanted to pull the tried and true white supremacy bit. Link to fic. Archive.

Spoiler

Notice something? Yes, this fic uses the Coming Home dialogue, where it sounds like everyone is choking on their own breath.


What the fuck did I just say.


This dialogue sounds like it came from a poorly modded game. Real NPC talk.

Uh uh uh hmmm mmm umm - sir, are you fucking choking? Should I just let you gasp for air and die?

MERGE YOUR SENTENCES TOGETHER HOLY FUCK. A COMMA WILL HELP

> Tdick
> it's only 1-2 inches long
> The vagina is sopping wet despite all that T use
> My face when

I don't know how you can make smut seem to boring and even gross, but congrats, pooners really do manage it. I think of wet sloppy food than I do humans doing the dirty.

Not when you sound like a barnyard animal, sir.

Ahh, there's that white supremacy schtick. Let's forget that Medieval Muslim scholars were basing their work off of Greek and Byzantine ones. It's one bit of cultural connection and exchange that was actually peaceful during the Medieval era between Christians and Muslims. This is lacklustre research and it fucking shows. This bitch just read one Wikipedia article and decided that was enough.
> Deep. Hard. And full.

What a way to make vaginal fingering seem so boring.
>Stroke the length of Viktor's dick as he flirted
What dick?

This. Fucking. Dialogue. Needs. To. End. And the uuuunnf. You are not an animal, but a human. Sound like one.

How manly, having boxers with hearts on them! UWU!

Why do pooners all have Rapunzel pubes? It's not the 1980s. Women get judged if ours isn't immaculately trimmed. And if those pubes are so big and bushy, you wouldn't be able to see that 1-2 inch dick anyways.

So, Jayce can rip open Viktor's boxers with his bare hands, but not his underwear because...? Plot.

It's not that hard to proofread your own work. I'd be goddamn embarrassed if this shit escaped my eye. It's so broken, disjointed and weird to read the smut couldn't be made legible even if Gordon Ramsay and Dita von Teese were duking it out.

> Left paw
> Wants to be science-y a sentence later
> Inadvertently clocks Viktor as a pooner because of how much larger Jayce's hands are
> That feel when

You also have to love how 'wet and sloppy' these smut scenes are when, in reality, that 'front hole' is dried up like sandpaper in the Australian sun. Diddy lube ain't gonna cut it.

You can merge all those sentences together and it would sound a lot better. I cannot say the same about the sex talk. "You're so hard for me/you feel so good" - what, with that 1-2 inch 'dick'? Pathetic.

"Oh fuck, Vik" - OH YEAH OH FUCK OH MAN OH NO

It's always about safety with these pooners. Always. Don't ask me why these words are randomly capitalized; guess it's that white girl autism speaking.

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From the author of Rapunzel Pubes, I bring you more of her T4T stuff. They're quite short so they won't take up too much space until the next chapter of Coming Home comes out. Here is one example.

Spoiler

Yes, there is no proper capitalization or grammar in this fic. It's an ~ironic~ fic, dontchaknow. And yes, Ghost in this one has had a metoidioplasty, that weird 4 inch clit that Jamie Raines had done.

I must admit, I was confused as to what 'hole' the author was referring to, until I saw that it was actually anal sex. So, points for not referring to the vagina as a 'front hole'.

Yup, they're using Vaseline as lube. Which is a hotbed for bacteria. And these people haven't bathed in...how many days, again? They probably didn't even wipe their asses properly.

> This was how roach loved to fuck the most. A colon (no pun intended) could've been used here.
> Totally balls deep inside him
Imagine the smell.

What cock? It's a micropenis, lmao.

And oof, rutting on Roach's face with that sperm coming out of your unwashed anus? Disgusting. Roach is gonna end up with gonorrhea if he's not careful.

Figured I might as well post this to give you an inkling of what this author thinks about:

Call of Duty has some overlap with the Arcane fandom. I hope these degenerates stay the fuck away come November, but that's a high price to ask.

 

[Paper Machete]

Some rambling thoughts:

1. CoD is easy to get into for a lot of people writing fic because honestly there isn't much meat in the OG canon to get wrong. The campaigns are very linear and it's easy to find let's plays for them. It's popular, has male characters that are typically likeable for that sort of genre, and that's all that's really necessary. I don't really begrudge people that get into certain video games for the character/story reasons and write their wank bank on it when it comes to really shallow stuff like CoD. The Modern Warfare reboot in 2019 (?) was when these characters got latched on to. And it's really JUST the Modern Warfare reboots that are latched on to. Not so much any of the other games from what I've noticed.

2. There's layers to the discussion of how a male or a female would approach writing certain things. There is the aspect of what it is they're writing and also how they're writing it. A lot of people forget that a lot of stuff with NSFW in it is written as (or attempted to be written as) more traditional romance novels. The sex is another aspect of the developing relationship which is built up to and is a sort of "reward" to the reader into that for getting through thousands upon thousands of words to witness it. A lot of women who write erotica started off writing long form and then basically started writing the sex scenes removed from their larger narratives. This is reflected a lot in how they discuss the fics and how they're categorized vs. some male writers which have different tagging conventions such as they are. I'd also like to point out that whump is not inherently a sexual genre. It's basically just writing characters suffering for the romance of that suffering, the torture you're putting them through could be of a sexual nature, but it could also just be going overly into detail about them getting beaten up and mugged. Again, a lot of tagging conventions have overlap between SFW and NSFW fics. This is different from how they then write male or female characters. Pooners write male (or "male") characters in really ass backward retarded ways that make you wonder if they suffer from purposeful amnesia where they pretend they've never witnessed the male of the species existing in the flesh before. What they think could even possibly be conceived as male typical behavior and relations to each other is straight up bizarre to the point it's actually fascinating in a way. It's so egregious that even "men writing women" don't get things so horrifically bad IMO. I honestly think the topic of how women and men approach fantasy and imagination differently in all these ways is interesting, especially in the context of fandom.