Facebook megathread

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps

Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Facebook says artificial intelligence has sped up removal of terrorist content

Facebook says it's able to remove 99% of Islamic State and Al Qaeda terrorist content before it's flagged by users thanks to artificial intelligence.

www.usatoday.com

Comparing people who say "immigration is tearing this country apart" to no-shit terrorist organizations.

Siri, what is nuance?

 

[GS 281]

Comparing people who say "immigration is tearing this country apart" to no-shit terrorist organizations.

Or when they went after Islamist extremism after [pick an incident]- oh wait, they didn't do that either.

Those were your words, so I'm really not seeing how I mischaracterized here.

 

[Superman93]

You know I see these alt-right internet “politicians” so much I think I can make a comical agenda guide for them:


1. Fuck Minorites. It’s their fault America is bad refer to FBI statistics.

2. Fuck the Jews. They are responsible for subverting our country into mediocrity and get away with evil stuff all the time. See USS Liberty.

3. Nazis weren’t all that bad. Hitler wasn’t a genocidal manic. He was only trying to protect his people and make Germany Great Again!

4. Holocaust wasn’t bad and it was just revised by the Jews to make it seem more horrible than it was. (Refer to agenda 2).Watch the POW tapes we swear! There are kids playing soccer and people in swimming pools!

5. Fuck Democrats and Liberals. Make absolutely no distinction between partisan ideologues and dangerhairs with normal liberal philosophy.

6. Save the Whites. White people are in danger of literal genocide via geographic displacement.

7. Not all White Nationalist. Assert they are saying all then divert the conversation to infinite whataboutery.

8. 2 wrongs make dont’t make a.......‘fuck you cuck!’. If someone takes an issue with a statement you said specifically pointing out hypocrisy tell them fuck your your just cucking for optics or some shit.

9. Muddy the waters and ignore nuance. There are no exceptions to the rule there are just rules and that’s that!!!!!

10. Ignore and or mock any moral quandaries. Who needs morality in politics? What are you some moralfag?

Edit:
11. Fuck you faggot nigger kike beaner bitch! What? You wannna kick me off your platform and disassociate with me and my ilk? CENSORSHIP REEEEE. Say the most reprehensible thing you can think of then wonder why no one wants to be around you.

 

[OG 666]

Lets say you were given a lifetime employment contract that paid for your onsite housing, your entire medical, and utilities, and if you were crippled you'd be cared for the rest of your natural life

“Throughout the 1840s, J. Marion Sims, who is often referred to as "the father of gynecology", performed surgical experiments on enslaved African women, without anaesthesia. The women—one of whom was operated on 30 times—eventually died from infections resulting from the experiments...In order to test one of his theories about the causes of trismus in infants, Sims performed experiments where he used a shoemaker's awl to move around the skull bones of the babies of enslaved women.”

- Source.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Those were your words, so I'm really not seeing how I mischaracterized here.

Define "extremism." Because Facebook's definition is explicitly different depending on what demographic you belong to. But being against this is racist because reasons.

 

[GS 281]

Define "extremism." Because Facebook's definition is explicitly different depending on what demographic you belong to. But being against this is racist because reasons.

youre the one who brought up extremism tho. you define it.

 

[Slap47]

Making the far right the champions of free speech will lead to the growth of the far right...

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

youre the one who brought up extremism tho. you define it.

True or false: the threshold for what constitutes bannable behavior is different depending on what demographic you belong to.

 

[GS 281]

youre the one who brought up extremism tho. you define it.

True or false: the threshold for what constitutes bannable behavior is different depending on what demographic you belong to.

Answering a question with a question doesn't answer a question

It just shows you want to avoid the question

And false.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Answering a question with a question doesn't answer a question

It just shows you want to avoid the question

Answering a question with rhetorical hair-splitting is also an indicator that you want to avoid the question, but I was nice enough not to mention it. Besides:

That included drawing the distinction between supremacy and nationalism that extremist experts saw as problematic.

And false.

It also doesn’t change the company’s existing policies on separatist and nationalist movements more generally; content relating to Black separatist movements and the Basque separatist movement, for example, will still be allowed.

So are you going to complete your disconnect from observable reality now?

 

[Superman93]

Answering a question with rhetorical hair-splitting is also an indicator that you want to avoid the question, but I was nice enough not to mention it. Besides:






So are you going to complete your disconnect from observable reality now?

What is extremism to you?

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

What is extremism to you

And false.

Should the rules should be the same for everyone regardless of race?

 

[Superman93]

Should the rules should be the same for everyone regardless of race?

Yes.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Yes.

Wow, thread's solved. All extremist opinions should be banned if you ban some.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

You know I see these alt-right internet “politicians” so much I think I can make a comical agenda guide for them:


1. Fuck Minorites. It’s their fault America is bad refer to FBI statistics.

2. Fuck the Jews. They are responsible for subverting our country into mediocrity and get away with evil stuff all the time. See USS Liberty.

3. Nazis weren’t all that bad. Hitler wasn’t a genocidal manic. He was only trying to protect his people and make Germany Great Again!

4. Holocaust wasn’t bad and it was just revised by the Jews to make it seem more horrible than it was. (Refer to agenda 2).Watch the POW tapes we swear! There are kids playing soccer and people in swimming pools!

5. Fuck Democrats and Liberals. Make absolutely no distinction between partisan ideologues and dangerhairs with normal liberal philosophy.

6. Save the Whites. White people are in danger of literal genocide via geographic displacement.

7. Not all White Nationalist. Assert they are saying all then divert the conversation to infinite whataboutery.

8. 2 wrongs make dont’t make a.......‘fuck you cuck!’. If someone takes an issue with a statement you said specifically pointing out hypocrisy tell them fuck your your just cucking for optics or some shit.

9. Muddy the waters and ignore nuance. There are no exceptions to the rule there are just rules and that’s that!!!!!

10. Ignore and or mock any moral quandaries. Who needs morality in politics? What are you some moralfag?

Edit:
11. Fuck you faggot nigger kike beaner bitch! What? You wannna kick me off your platform and disassociate with me and my ilk? CENSORSHIP REEEEE. Say the most reprehensible thing you can think of then wonder why no one wants to be around you.

I'm going to have to interject with some of the ridiculous assertions: Especailly attributing it to merely the alt right which is blatent hypocrisy with something you've said. But I'll get to that.

1. So communities of certain groups shouldn't try to cut down on crimes? It's an agenda to point it out? Hmmm. Something something you mentioned about muddying waters?


2 & 3 & 4..I agree are alt right positions. However, you can't say there's some large nuance and then paint a literal black and white picture. That's hypocrisy.

5. Classical Liberal values are not traditionally left in the first place. Libertarian values are actually more center. Also if people continue to vote for "Democrat" /etc. ideologues then they are supporting those values. You don't get to vote for someone pushing extremist ideas and then say "It's not my fault I voted for them."

6. More than alt-right people believe this. Something something nuance something something muddying of waters?

7. Isn't it ever group says "Not all X" until it comes to White nationalist and Nazi's? Don't fall on your own sword with that hypocrisy and something something nuance something something muddying of waters.

8. If you're literally going to pretend two wrongs do make a right I don't think there's much to discuss. That attempt to muddy the waters and defend an indefensible position though.


9. Something you are guilty of as well.

10. Politicians (and politics) in general are poor moral arbiters, trying to get politicians to control morality has worked so well in the past, right? Oh wait, morality shifts like the wind which isn't the best attribution to morality within politics. (Albeit with some exceptions that are universally agreed upon)

Just saying the people always going on about "Muh nuance" and "Muh muddying of waters." Generally are just as guilty of pushing the same nonsense and bullshit as you demonstrated especially with attributing certain beliefs to merely alt-right as if there is no other nuance for such beliefs.

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In regards to facebook is a blanket ban for supremacist too hard to comprehend for some people? Unless you're going to justify specific sorts of supremacy, you'll have to explain your defense of treating different supremacist groups within different levels of vitriol or punishment. Just saying.

 

[GS 281]

Answering a question with rhetorical hair-splitting is also an indicator that you want to avoid the question, but I was nice enough not to mention it.

Still no definition but I'll let that go for now.

So are you going to complete your disconnect from observable reality now?

Observable reality is that I have and others who follow Tommy Tooter have seen a tranny jew's account suspended and deleted from facebook for making racist and violent remarks, as well as anti-zionist remarks. Several times. So regardless of what a spokesperson says, there is evidence that:

True or false: the threshold for what constitutes bannable behavior is different depending on what demographic you belong to.

is False.

Observable reality is that 50 people were killed and it was livestreamed in part over Facebook. If you are a firm as large as FB and this happens, you're gonna do all you can to pull your balls out the blender and part of that includes "We're gonna squash the white nationalist material".

Jews get the ban. Islams get the ban. Whites get the ban.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Siri what is nuance?



I got a question for all you alt-speds specifically the ethnostate types. Why are are you assmad when people want to disassociate you and kick you of their platforms but at the same time want to build an entire country based on disassociating people, kicking people out and limiting entry in your country?

I got a question for all you speds, specifically the nonwhite ethnostate types. Why are you assmad when people want facebook to disassociate you and kick you out of their platforms but at the same time want to build an entire country based on disassociating people, kicking people out and limiting entry in your country?


I'm not the one saying "Facebook should NOT ban black supremacists." That's you. You are the ones defending the right of these ethnostate types. Just only the ones that aren't white. So you're racist, and inconsistent. I would be satisfied with either outcome between no race nationalists, supremacists, or purists allowed, or all of them allowed. I don't even have a fucking facebook account, so I'm certainly not mad about facebook doing anything to me, nor would they, because I'm not a white supremacist, nationalist, or whateverist anyway. Although I've previously said Donald Trump isn't the devil, which may be considered the same thing.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Making the far right the champions of free speech will lead to the growth of the far right...

And then it’s gonna lead to a whole different issue when people realize that significant chunks of the far right don’t actually give a fuck about free speech as an ideal, they just wanna be able to bitch about minorities consequence-free

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

And then it’s gonna lead to a whole different issue when people realize that significant chunks of the far right don’t actually give a fuck about free speech as an ideal, they just wanna be able to bitch about minorities consequence-free

The issue there and I dread as well, is a counter extreme and a counter counter extreme. (Or a continuous revolving door/penudlum switch) of extremism that'll get more and more extreme.

Compare the Bible Thumpers of the 1990's to the left of today, now imagine a right wing group more extreme than the modern left, and then a counter counter extreme of the "Future right." It's why blanket rulings are generally better as they stop a escalation of such extremes.

 

[Superman93]

Wow, thread's solved. All extremist opinions should be banned if you ban some.

I don’t think that’s the issue and only a complete sped would disagree with that. The points of contention is this:

-One side of extremism is somewhat socially acceptable and understandable in the mainstream right now because compared to the other extreme considering the historical and contextual events of United States history and the alt-right for whatever reason seem not to understand that almost disengenously so that they attempt to downplay slavery or State sanctioned discrimination. Racially nationalism of any stripe especially in CURRENT YEAR XD is exceptional but one will be laughed at more than others.

- I made a joke about this already but the other lingering problem is the unfettered hypocrisy of disassociating people for wrong-think while simultaneously advocating for disassociating people for race.

- Facebook is a shitty platform and I think no one should use because censoring people for wrong think is autistic but screeching free speech while shitting up someone else’s platform with ideological nonsense when the owners of said platform very clearly don’t want you there is exceptional.

I hoped that cleared things uo

I got a question for all you speds, specifically the nonwhite ethnostate types. Why are you assmad when people want facebook to disassociate you and kick you out of their platforms but at the same time want to build an entire country based on disassociating people, kicking people out and limiting entry in your country?


I'm not the one saying "Facebook should NOT ban black supremacists." That's you. You are the ones defending the right of these ethnostate types. Just only the ones that aren't white. So you're racist, and inconsistent. I would be satisfied with either outcome between no race nationalists, supremacists, or purists allowed, or all of them allowed. I don't even have a fucking facebook account, so I'm certainly not mad about facebook doing anything to me, nor would they, because I'm not a white supremacist, nationalist, or whateverist anyway. Although I've previously said Donald Trump isn't the devil, which may be considered the same thing.

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First of all the ethnostate question wasn’t for you. I posted in the same post to prevent multi post spam.
Second never said facebook shouldn’t ban black surpremist. I’ve actually quite literally said banned then all or let them all go in this very thread.
Third of all never even hinted at wanted an ethnostate.

TL:dr your an exceptional individual and you don’t even know the position of the person your arguing with