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https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps
Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”
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Eh, a company having double standards and being complete hypocrites is fine, only losers would complain about it.

You know KF isn't a lawmaking entity right? We can not like things that are perfectly legal. We can not like actual white supremacists while also not liking the hypocrisy of allowing black supremacists and asian supremacists and indian supremacists while not allowing the white ones.

It's not "Hurr durr nazis did nothing wrong" it's "You are letting a shitload of wrong stuff happen, and specifically targetting right wing stuff and conflating all of it with being nazis."

And yeah, to me, this looks closer and closer to "Support of president trump is not allowed because it's hate speech" and once they cross that threshold and can control which political viewpoints we're allowed to hear, we stopped being anything close to a democracy.

If it was JUST facebook, probably wouldn't seem like such a big deal. But it's not, these ideas are being pushed across the entire mainstream.
 
Xarpho said:
I'm not going to defend Facebook's handling of this and how it relates to free speech, but Facebook is a turbo-normie platform, and it seems weird that counter-cultural groups would even want to colonize it. Also, linking your full name with white nationalism and white supremacism is either very brave or very foolish when considering the consequences.
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I don’t get why anyone would admit to being a white nationalist on Facebook. It seems like a great way to get dogpiled and fired.* The same goes for black separatism or any other revolutionary group.

*or get watched by various government agencies.
 
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IAmNotAlpharius said:
I don’t get why anyone would admit to being a white nationalist on Facebook. It seems like a great way to get dogpiled and fired. The same goes for black separatism or any other revolutionary group.
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In a sane world this would be true. We threw sanity out the window a long time ago
 
Prompt Critical said:
If there's one thing Current Year + 4 has taught us, it's that global tech megacorporations are really good at making fine distinctions between "racists" and "people who have an icky opinion that offends my bay area sensibilities", so if they say they're just going after racists we should have nothing to worry about.

On an unrelated note, is alt-right white supremacist forum Kiwi Farms still blocked by ISPs in Australia and New Zealand? Asking for a friend.
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Dude, if you're a white separatist, you're pretty much broadcasting that darker-skinned people make you shit your pants and cry. How is that not racist?
 
Corbin Dallas Multipass said:
Eh, a company having double standards and being complete hypocrites is fine, only losers would complain about it.

You know KF isn't a lawmaking entity right? We can not like things that are perfectly legal. We can not like actual white supremacists while also not liking the hypocrisy of allowing black supremacists and asian supremacists and indian supremacists while not allowing the white ones.

It's not "Hurr durr nazis did nothing wrong" it's "You are letting a shitload of wrong stuff happen, and specifically targetting right wing stuff and conflating all of it with being nazis."

And yeah, to me, this looks closer and closer to "Support of president trump is not allowed because it's hate speech" and once they cross that threshold and can control which political viewpoints we're allowed to hear, we stopped being anything close to a democracy.

If it was JUST facebook, probably wouldn't seem like such a big deal. But it's not, these ideas are being pushed across the entire mainstream.
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Honestly, if it were just some forum no one's heard of nobody would care. I think the only reason why anyone cares about Failbook endorsing biased policies is because it had a movie. The more they censor their platform the more people they'll chase off and the less people will use their MySpace ripoff, ect. until they've sterilized themselves into irrelevancy. The only people who will continue to care about Facebook are the people in shitty third world countries who are only allowed to use FB while the rest of us move onto something better, maybe something that isn't predicated on the flimsy design of a forum with your real ID. I really cannot wait for them to make that one false move that makes them explode because Facebook is so anemic that it has no other entertainment value other than to see the defacto flagship standard & load bearing pillar of social media go down in a ball of flames, reduced to a shrunken burnt husk of its former self. It's happened to every website I've ever liked so why not the ones I don't?
trombonista said:
Dude, if you're a white separatist, you're pretty much broadcasting that darker-skinned people make you shit your pants and cry. How is that not racist?
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I think you missed his point, seeing as how he brought up that KF is banned in Australia and New Zealand after KF was labeled an alt-right hate site or some such other political overcoat.
 
Marvin said:
If you look at the rules for groups like that (or GSA or whatever), they usually state outright that they're welcoming to people of all races.Edit: Example: https://rockchalkcentral.ku.edu/organization/BSU
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So that's a no, you don't have an example of a black student union that was forced to admit non-black members. Here's some other black student unions that make no such statements:

Berkley:
"Are you a Black undergraduate or graduate student attending Cal or community member wanting to get connected with our Black community?"

Duke:
www.dukebsa.org

About Us

BSA Mission Statement: For the purposes of intellectually, socially, and culturally enriching the Duke community, the Black Student Alliance promotes academic achievement and intellectual pursuit,...
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"All members of the African diaspora are considered members of the Black Student Alliance."

Just to be clear, you originally made a blanket claim that (emphasis mine):

Marvin said:
No, school clubs with an official connection to a state school cannot discriminate based on protected classes.
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My original point (way back in the beginning of the thread) was that our current system is a patchwork of free association for some people and compelled integration for others, with facially neutral laws that are nevertheless applied in an inconsistent manner. This seems to be a perfect example.

trombonista said:
Dude, if you're a white separatist, you're pretty much broadcasting that darker-skinned people make you shit your pants and cry. How is that not racist?
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www.reddit.com

r/GamerGhazi - Kiwi Farms refuses to surrender data linked to accused Christchurch terrorist

243 votes and 70 comments so far on Reddit
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btw thanks for correcting the title; The article has "Incels refuse to surrender data" in its title field, and though it's near-accurate and a decent jab at the fuckwits in question, it doesn't communicate the story being about a particular horrible website.
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Is KiwiFarms even that known for incels? I thought they had a more generalized misogyny. And that they were mostly about the harassing, not quite equal opportunity because women get targeted more, but they'll target men for reasons that don't related to incel insecurities.
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Just say white supremacist ffs.
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Wow dude, sorry to inform you of this, but you're an incel, and a misogynist, and pro-white, and a white supremacist. How fucking retarded do you have to be in this day and age to take labels like that at face value when they're being used to remove content from the internet? You are a moderator on a website that a good chunk of the internet left think is actually run by nazis for fuck's sake.
 
Prompt Critical said:
My original point (way back in the beginning of the thread) was that our current system is a patchwork of free association for some people and compelled integration for others, with facially neutral laws that are nevertheless applied in an inconsistent manner. This seems to be a perfect example.
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Hell, shouldn't Faceberg's new policy be seen as prima facie racial discrimination because of the disparate impact it has on white people? Oh, right, disparate impact doesn't count when it happens to white people, never mind. All races are equal, but some are more equal than others.
 
Testaclese Maximus said:
How many years did white people spend under legalized segregation in the US? Or as slaves? It’s not the same thing lmao
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Uhh... how many years did the black supremecists on the internet spend as slaves or under legal segregation? Zero?

What difference does it make that person the same color as me did something bad to a person the same color as someone else? That's literally racism, you're claiming since I look kinda like those slaveowners, I am responsible for them, and since these people look kinda like those slaves, they are owed reparations.
 
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