Euro migrant crisis

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I want Dave Chappelle to do this bit about about Europe.
Oglooger said:
Migrant centre banned from holding memorial to Swedish social worker 'stabbed to death by Somali boy, 15' in case it upsets refugee children
When they mean "Children" I think they mean the mental age of these rapefugees
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The alleged attacker, a boy claiming to be a 15-year-old from Somalia, is being held in a secure psychiatric hospital in Gothenburg and has been remanded in custody until February 11.
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Fucking Sweden, man. He better have been on drugs or something, because otherwise, he doesn't deserve to be in a goddamn hospital. Not even temporarily. Send that fucker to jail to wait for his trial, where he belongs.
 
Marvin said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CtyN49CiYm8I want Dave Chappelle to do this bit about about Europe.


Fucking Sweden, man. He better have been on drugs or something, because otherwise, he doesn't deserve to be in a goddamn hospital. Not even temporarily. Send that fucker to jail to wait for his trial, where he belongs.
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Nah they'll probably give him anti murder classes and send him on his way.
 
Oglooger said:
Migrant centre banned from holding memorial to Swedish social worker 'stabbed to death by Somali boy, 15' in case it upsets refugee children
When they mean "Children" I think they mean the mental age of these rapefugees
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Marvin said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CtyN49CiYm8I want Dave Chappelle to do this bit about about Europe.
Fucking Sweden, man. He better have been on drugs or something, because otherwise, he doesn't deserve to be in a goddamn hospital. Not even temporarily. Send that fucker to jail to wait for his trial, where he belongs.
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Yeah, I don't believe this murderer is actually 15. As a commenter on another website put it, "If he can commit murder, he can damn well lie about his age."

Also, I've noticed how a lot of migrant incidents involve "teenagers." After doing a little digging, I discovered that it's an open secret that many 20+ year old men lie about being teenagers because minors are given preferential treatment. Some examples (Just use Google's reverse image search if you want to find out more):

This guy says he's 14 (FUCKING LOL)

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This guy says he's 16
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And the murderer himself looks rather rugged for a 15-year-old boy, don't you think?

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And even if the murderer is actually 15 and the "teenagers" involved in violent incidents actually are teenagers, it doesn't make any difference. When you are 14 or 15 or 16 years old, you know better. Teenagers are not children. Yes, they make stupid mistakes, but "stupid mistakes" usually involve underage drinking and short-sighted thinking instead of rape and murder.

melty said:
Nah they'll probably give him anti murder classes and send him on his way.
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As it should be. After all, we shouldn't hold brown people up to the same standard as we hold ourselves. All cultures are beautiful and equal, so it's not our place to judge a culture that says it's okay to murder an aid worker who is just trying to help you or gives you the right to rape and assault as many women as you want because they're not actually people.
 
AnOminous said:
Nazis are directly relevant. There is going to be a spike in membership of Nazi groups and sympathizers in the immediate future. How do you think these groups recruit?
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I know that people actually believe that Germany is due for another nazi uprising, but what if it's not Germany or the EU, but this new influx of immigrants. This is one of the largest mass migrations in history, and if they all get kicked out of one place, who says they won't all ban together on the out skirts and plot a take over.
 
Honestly, as a German I find it difficult not too grow a bit cynical in light of our current immigrant situation. As it is now a rather kafkaesque system has established itself where those who are responsible for our problems refuse to address them, those who suffer their consequences (both native germans and immigrants) aren't being listened to and those who are being listened to are political opportunists and increasingly radicalized nationalists who try to further escalate things

As it is now our relatively open borders are overran by foreign nationals who I'm sure are mostly perfectly fine people but have enough hoodlums and thugs among them to cause a deep and often hateful distrust between the two groups which seems all but impossible to overcome because rational, levelheaded dialogue to find a mutually agreeable solution is something that simply doesn't happen.

By now I wish a giant bucket of ice water would open over the country and the voice of god, no matter which one, would tell us all to just get our shit together before we break something.
 
PsychedelicDiamond said:
Honestly, as a German I find it difficult not too grow a bit cynical in light of our current immigrant situation. As it is now a rather kafkaesque system has established itself where those who are responsible for our problems refuse to address them, those who suffer their consequences (both native germans and immigrants) aren't being listened to and those who are being listened to are political opportunists and increasingly radicalized nationalists who try to further escalate things

As it is now our relatively open borders are overran by foreign nationals who I'm sure are mostly perfectly fine people but have enough hoodlums and thugs among them to cause a deep and often hateful distrust between the two groups which seems all but impossible to overcome because rational, levelheaded dialogue to find a mutually agreeable solution is something that simply doesn't happen.

By now I wish a giant bucket of ice water would open over the country and the voice of god, no matter which one, would tell us all to just get our shit together before we break something.
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Are those sentiments similar for other Germans or do a lot of people still support the immigrants?
 
grilledcheesesandwich said:
Are those sentiments similar for other Germans or do a lot of people still support the immigrants?
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Never personally met anyone supporting immigrants, to be perfectly honest. In fact ever since we started taking in any of them whatsoever all I heard was ranging from dissaproval to actually rather vile racism.

If anything both the political left and the political right agree that our refugee policy is a rushed, badly managed mess that benefits noone and in the long run burts both immigrants and native Germans.

Now, personally I wont blame anyone for fleeing a warzone and looking to find a better life elsewhere. I sincerely hope the people fleeing Syria will be able to live in peace. t's just blatantly obvious that Germany doesn't have the infrastructure to support that kind of mass immigration and no amount of good will is gonna change that. I can't imagine people come to Germany to be poor and homeless.
 
I honestly don't know how ANYONE can support Merkel's open door policy after all Europe's been through since it started. At this point you have to be delusional to believe that it's a good idea to not screen people or have a concrete plan in place when it comes to which refugees to accept.
 
PsychedelicDiamond said:
Now, personally I wont blame anyone for fleeing a warzone and looking to find a better life elsewhere. I sincerely hope the people fleeing Syria will be able to live in peace. t's just blatantly obvious that Germany doesn't have the infrastructure to support that kind of mass immigration and no amount of good will is gonna change that. I can't imagine people come to Germany to be poor and homeless.
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Yeah, that's my attitude. I don't blame people for wanting to get out while the getting is good. Hell, even if they're lying to do it, I can't honestly say I wouldn't do the same thing if I was in their shoes.

And at the same time, I'd want my government to have the backbone to say "sorry, all full".
 
Cosmos said:
I honestly don't know how ANYONE can support Merkel's open door policy after all Europe's been through since it started. At this point you have to be delusional to believe that it's a good idea to not screen people or have a concrete plan in place when it comes to which refugees to accept.
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Merkel is a buffoon who combines the worst aspects of the left and right.
 
So you know how @AnOminous has been telling us how European leaders' abysmal handling of the migrant crisis is only going to result in Nazis? Yeah, he was right.

A group known as the Soldiers of Odin have vowed to protect Europe's women from further sexual assault, through whatever means necessary. They are located in Finland and their presence has just grown and grown over the past couple months. The group contains known neo-Nazis and followers with criminal records, as well as more typical men.

Every action has a reaction. Instead of wringing their hands and whining about racism, Europe's leaders need to prove that far-right groups like the Soldiers of Odin are obsolete because the law already takes care of migrant crime. Instead the most they do is give migrants anti-rape classes or a stern lecture about how they shouldn't grope women on public transportation. The absolute failure of the Cologne police department to contain and then stop the mass sexual assaults during New Years, followed by the attempts of a cover up and the mayor's rape apologetics, is just proof that people have a reason to not trust their government when it comes to keeping them safe.
 
Cosmos said:
So you know how @AnOminous has been telling us how European leaders' abysmal handling of the migrant crisis is only going to result in Nazis? Yeah, he was right.

A group known as the Soldiers of Odin have vowed to protect Europe's women from further sexual assault, through whatever means necessary. They are located in Finland and their presence has just grown and grown over the past couple months. The group contains known neo-Nazis and followers with criminal records, as well as more typical men.

Every action has a reaction. Instead of wringing their hands and whining about racism, Europe's leaders need to prove that far-right groups like the Soldiers of Odin are obsolete because the law already takes care of migrant crime. Instead the most they do is give migrants anti-rape classes or a stern lecture about how they shouldn't grope women on public transportation. The absolute failure of the Cologne police department to contain and then stop the mass sexual assaults during New Years, followed by the attempts of a cover up and the mayor's rape apologetics, is just proof that people have a reason to not trust their government when it comes to keeping them safe.
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At this point I doubt their laws can take care of migrant crime. Did not the swedish police ran from them?
 
Cosmos said:
I honestly don't know how ANYONE can support Merkel's open door policy after all Europe's been through since it started. At this point you have to be delusional to believe that it's a good idea to not screen people or have a concrete plan in place when it comes to which refugees to accept.
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I was watching a UK politics show last Sunday and the shadow chancellor of the opposition party was on (John McDonnell of the Labour Party) and he had even more extreme ideas, basically he thinks borders are an antiquated idea and said "Inevitably in this century we will have open borders" so every country should just accept it and act accordingly and when asked if he thought accepting immigrants who traveled in dangerous conditions to get to Europe (Such as via people smugglers) would just inspire more to do the same he agreed and suggested they be given safe and legal routes into Europe - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ury-says-labours-john-mcdonnell-a6844841.html

Although since he assumedly knows it's an extremely unpopular view he refused to say how many he thinks should be allowed in the UK specifically but it makes you wonder if other politicians in Europe agree with him but aren't saying it because they know how politically toxic it'd be.
 
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Pickle Inspector said:
basically he thinks borders are an antiquated idea and said "Inevitably in this century we will have open borders" so every country should just accept it and act accordingly
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This is a beautiful aspirational goal, but one that is essentially impossible to create unilaterally just by wishing it were so. It assumes a world where there aren't lots of people whose sole reason to come to your lovely country is to commit acts of mass destruction against its people, or who just happen to be habitual violent criminals of various sorts.

If you're the only country with an open borders policy, or one of a few, you're going to be inundated with the worst of the worst, that is, the people who other countries were prudent enough to exclude for the protection of their citizens. And you can expect shit like Paris every month or so.
 
Pickle Inspector said:
I was watching a UK politics show last Sunday and the shadow chancellor of the opposition party was on (John McDonnell of the Labour Party) and he had even more extreme ideas, basically he thinks borders are an antiquated idea and said "Inevitably in this century we will have open borders" so every country should just accept it and act accordingly and when asked if he thought accepting immigrants who traveled in dangerous conditions to get to Europe (Such as via people smugglers) would just inspire more to do the same he agreed and suggested they be given safe and legal routes into Europe - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ury-says-labours-john-mcdonnell-a6844841.html

Although since he assumedly knows it's an extremely unpopular view he refused to say how many he thinks should be allowed in the UK specifically but it makes you wonder if other politicians in Europe agree with him but aren't saying it because they know how politically toxic it'd be.
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John McDonnell supports the IRA, that all you need to know about him.
 
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