Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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What do sequential hermaphrodites like clownfish have to do with troons? They literally, naturally, change their sex and start producing the other kind of gametes. Troons don't do that, they stay the same sex and get a load of body mods to try to look like the opposite sex. The closest thing to a troon in nature would be a "sneaky fucker", a low status male that tries to trick chads into thinking it's a female to let it near the real females. Or in Ellen's case, those various traumatised creatures you see in the zoo that came from abusive homes that chew their own body parts off or pull out their own feathers. Funnily enough, they stop doing it once they've been properly cared for for a while and got used to their nice new home.
 
Fun fact: Ovary damage can cause hens to turn into roosters (but they are still genetically female).

This has nothing to do with trannies. Trannies are mentally ill humans.
 
I've joked about the female spotted hyena's pseudo-penis whenever I've talked about pooners on the farms before, but do not be mistaken. It is not a penis. It's a pseudo-penis, meaning it's essentially just an elongated birthing canal that the female hyena can use to dominate the physically smaller male spotted hyena with. It has nothing to do with pegging or anal penetration of a human male's rectum with a dildo or another phallic object, it has nothing to do with queerness or BDSM or whatever other cope some lunatic tranny like Ellen would screech.

Human sexuality, and human gender identity bullshit, is entirely unique to humans. Does mental illness exist in other species? Yes, undoubtedly, but animals don't cut off their forearm skin to make a meat tube and pretend it's a penis.

Homosexual pairings in nature is not in any way, shape or form comparable to homosexuality in humans. It is a question of confused animals, they weren't groomed into that behaviour unlike a church choir boy who got molested by his preacher, who then becomes a hypersexual and traumatised individual who may or may not perpetrate the same trauma onto some other human.

Ducks have exploding dicks, dolphins will decapitate a fish and use it as a fleshlight, some animals switch gender as part of a mating ritual (hermaphroditic sea snails will attempt to bite off the penis of their potential mate in a display of utter dominance) or as a part of their life cycle. They are not comparable to humans.
 
I was sperging out about cats with another crazy cat lady at the market the other day and it came up that tortoiseshell cats are almost all female because the ginger colour is linked to the X chromosome, so the only males have Klinefelter syndrome (XXY). Turns out she's drunk the troon ally Kool-Aid and was like "lol which toilets would they use?" Which gave me a chance to sperg out about how Klinefelter's are still men and just like normal XY men except with a few health problems. She was like "but how can you tell it's a man" and I just said, when you're walking alone you can tell if a man's walking nearby even if he's in shadow, it's the gait and body structure and everything. She conceded that one and seemed to be on the road to TERFdom, thanks to intersex animals.
 
So what if degeneracy isn't just species specific? It serves no purpose in the animal kingdom either, I don't understand why they make this comparison.
 
Hongourable Madisha said:
What do sequential hermaphrodites like clownfish have to do with troons? They literally, naturally, change their sex and start producing the other kind of gametes. Troons don't do that, they stay the same sex and get a load of body mods to try to look like the opposite sex. The closest thing to a troon in nature would be a "sneaky fucker", a low status male that tries to trick chads into thinking it's a female to let it near the real females. Or in Ellen's case, those various traumatised creatures you see in the zoo that came from abusive homes that chew their own body parts off or pull out their own feathers. Funnily enough, they stop doing it once they've been properly cared for for a while and got used to their nice new home.
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I'd argue the closest thing to a troon in nature is the cuckoo chick
It's much larger and louder and more aggressive than the rest of the nest it's invaded and drains the colony dry while destroying the real thing, all to no avail for the continued success of the host.
It's almost a perfect metaphor for MTF activists in women's spaces
 
StarkRavingMad said:
I don't doubt for a second that she was probably abused by the Hollyweird system and is a victim of it, but that's no excuse for the stuff she's doing now.
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Though I recognize that the cycle dictates the abused reproduce by becoming the abuser, I still wasn't expecting Ellen to produce a gay animal-fucking movie to be shown in classrooms. Scarier still is that this mutilated bitch with a pack of King's Hawaiian implanted over her womb can still be knocked up.
 
Poonocchio said:
So what if degeneracy isn't just species specific? It serves no purpose in the animal kingdom either, I don't understand why they make this comparison.
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Exactly, hamsters eat their babies, bonobos rape babies, bucks fight to the death for females, chimps in Uganda currently having a violent civil war where they literally tear each other apart … the list goes on. None of that should be legal or encouraged. “You’re acting like an animal” is not a compliment.

They make these types of comparisons because the accept the Lefts’ Woke religion in its entirety, which includes very extreme forms of environmentalism.
 
Cun75p4rkl35 said:
Animals also routinely kill or cannibalize their young and rape their dead. Does that mean humans should start doing that too?
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That's for the sequel of the documentary.

They always say that homosexuality is natural because animals can be gay (they aren't, they show homosexual behaviour, it's not the same), but, unsurprisingly, ignore that animals also have gender roles and social classes.
 
To date, the most self-aware thing Ellen has ever said was admitting that juggling three oranges is the only thing she's good at. She's too uncharismatic to be an effective propagandist for anything but opponents of Canada or the trending causes she positions herself in front of (whether they want her or not). I guarantee the "animals are faggots too" film wasn't her first choice, nor will manage to boost her profile anywhere but message boards making fun of her frog voice.
 
Shartavius said:
To date, the most self-aware thing Ellen has ever said was admitting that juggling three oranges is the only thing she's good at. She's too uncharismatic to be an effective propagandist for anything but opponents of Canada or the trending causes she positions herself in front of (whether they want her or not). I guarantee the "animals are faggots too" film wasn't her first choice, nor will manage to boost her profile anywhere but message boards making fun of her frog voice.
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So THAT'S what the oranges are for.
 
Incecticyder said:
It seems like they try to justify queerness as part of nature. Why do it like this? Yes, animals engage in homo sex, so what?
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I love that cope. Trying to validate your behavior by turning to the animal kingdom as an example and saying “b-b-but they do it as well, so it’s totes cool!!”

We’re *human.* We are infinitely more intelligent, advanced, and civilized than our animal neighbors- fact. As a result of that supremacy, we strive to maintain it and keep ourselves above them. Ergo, we’re not looking to their primitive ways and behaviors for guidance. Having to use animals as role models and an excuse for your behavior comes off as desperate, considering that being paralleled with animals almost always has negative connotations. “OMG, use your fork when you eat! What’re you, some kind of animal?”
 
Pig Cups said:
I love that cope. Trying to validate your behavior by turning to the animal kingdom as an example and saying “b-b-but they do it as well, so it’s totes cool!!”

We’re *human.* We are infinitely more intelligent, advanced, and civilized than our animal neighbors- fact. As a result of that supremacy, we strive to maintain it and keep ourselves above them. Ergo, we’re not looking to their primitive ways and behaviors for guidance. Having to use animals as role models and an excuse for your behavior comes off as desperate, considering that being paralleled with animals almost always has negative connotations. “OMG, use your fork when you eat! What’re you, some kind of animal?”
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My point is that if you want to do something and it is who you are and no one gets hurt, do it. Don't try to justify it to me! Don't point to nature! Be who you are with confidence! However, if you show me an entire movie length video of animals having homo sex, I will look at you the same way I would look at a guy that showed me a video of animals having hetero sex. Why are you showing that? I don't care whether the lions are gay or straight. You are weird!

As I said, I find aspects of animal behavior and culture interesting. I have always liked animals. But if you try to justify you nature with this, I will school you. Humans are nothing but apes that got really arrogant and started thinking we are better than everyone else. Doesn't mean we won't look upon you with cringe if you make a movie voyeur-ing at a bunch of animals fucking and say "this is me, I am like that". I wish gays would go back to the days when fighting for gay rights involved marching peacefully and not acting like they just joined Slaanesh.
 
Sinner's Sandwich said:
Fun fact: Ovary damage can cause hens to turn into roosters (but they are still genetically female).

This has nothing to do with trannies. Trannies are mentally ill humans.
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This is pretty similar to the idea of nonfunctional Y-chromosomes in humans (that produce a female phenotype but are still genetically male).

The reason is because, in humans, males are the heterogametic sex (meaning they have the two different chromosomes: XY compared to the female XX, in this case). Chickens (and birds in general afaik) have ZW chromosomes, in which the females are the heterogametic (ZW, compared to ZZ) sex. So, the remaining X/Z chromosome tries to "cover" for the damaged chromosome, and creates something that looks similar to the homogametic phenotype, but it's only skin deep. For instance, XY people with a nonfunctional Y chromosome may look female, but they don't have a working female reproductive system and are not actually female, just like the above post mentions with the hens.

The adage that "we're all female by default" is an oversimplification for that reason - sure, you'll get something that looks more like a girl, but it won't actually function as one. It's like saying that a high-grade data analyst's laptop is the same as grandma's $150 notebook because they have a similar chassis.
 
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Drive-by Farts said:
They make these types of comparisons because the accept the Lefts’ Woke religion in its entirety, which includes very extreme forms of environmentalism.
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And very extreme forms of individualism and atheism. As far as they know (or anyone knows for that matter) animals don’t have gods or moral codes handed down by gods. Animals are seen as having a pure, unadulterated will in their behaviors. That their behavior is subject to evolution and sometimes maladaptions (as with the case of gay animals and other abnormal species endangering behaviors) is beside the point.
 
Hongourable Madisha said:
What do sequential hermaphrodites like clownfish have to do with troons? They literally, naturally, change their sex and start producing the other kind of gametes. Troons don't do that, they stay the same sex and get a load of body mods to try to look like the opposite sex. The closest thing to a troon in nature would be a "sneaky fucker", a low status male that tries to trick chads into thinking it's a female to let it near the real females. Or in Ellen's case, those various traumatised creatures you see in the zoo that came from abusive homes that chew their own body parts off or pull out their own feathers. Funnily enough, they stop doing it once they've been properly cared for for a while and got used to their nice new home.
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I’m just here before the troons say “Species is a social construct”.
 
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