Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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Don't mind me, I'm just furiously masturbating to the trailer of the upcoming Janemba DLC for FighterZ... with a little extra treat at the end.

 
Baldur's Gait said:
Ohhh fuck, I wonder what the English version is gonna do about Broly.
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Wouldn't put it above them to replace Vic with someone who sounds close enough. That being said, I find most of the English voice acting in FighterZ pretty phoned in (Bardock sounds like he's either bored out of his mind or has a massive hangover), so I'll gladly stick to the Japanese voices.
 
Lou Wrong said:
I am starting to watch through Super now (started right where the first film left off) and man, after seven episodes it isn't very good. Does it stop sucking after Freiza? Does the art get less blatantly stiff awful.
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And I made it to the end (sorry everybody, I skipped the non-arc filler eposides.) The art definitely improved and we finally got a few decent fights and original ideas. I'd say that the series erred in a few ways (Goku Black arc was way too memberberries and I hate the Trunks/Mei pairing) but overall they did a good job of taking characters who could crush planets without trying and giving them new challenges and things to do.

Here's hoping for more although I suppose that is becoming less likely everyday.
 
Lou Wrong said:
And I made it to the end (sorry everybody, I skipped the non-arc filler eposides.) The art definitely improved and we finally got a few decent fights and original ideas. I'd say that the series erred in a few ways (Goku Black arc was way too memberberries and I hate the Trunks/Mei pairing) but overall they did a good job of taking characters who could crush planets without trying and giving them new challenges and things to do.

Here's hoping for more although I suppose that is becoming less likely everyday.
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The best parts of Super are already reaching the same levels of iconic as some of the most memorable momenys of the OG series. (Dragon Punch vs Ling Piccolo, Goku vs Vegeta beam struggle, Piccolo's sacrifice for Gohan, etc.) And the best part of that is that these moments are pretty new experiences for the most part.

Everything about Zamasu/Goku Black (the characters, not the arc)
Vegeta kicking the shit out of Goku Black
Goku's match with Hit
SSB Vegito
Trunks "Spirti Sword"
Goku's UI Kamehameha (SURFING ON LASER BEAMS)
Friggen

Everything about the Androids in the ToP.

That stuff alone makes Super worth way more than GT. It's just a shame that, like Z before it, you have to wade through crappy filler to get to those parts.
 
I'm not really sure if most of those are iconic. What I'd say makes the cut as stuff that Dragonball fans specifically will remember....

Beerus, Champa and Whiz as characters/the concept of Gods of Destruction.
Super Saiyan Blue
The Androids' characterization in TOP
Goku and Frieza knocking Jiran out.

But then if you look at OG DB you have (most of which are, I think, ingrained in pop culture way more than any of the above)...

The concept of Dragonballs/Shenron/"wishing them back with the Dragonballs"
The Dragonradar
The Kamehameha
Oolong's wish for panties
Roshi being a pervert/watching aerobics videos
Goku and Krillan training
Roshi blowing up the moon
Taopaipai riding on a pillar (and killing Blue with just his tongue)
The end of the first Goku/Tenshinhan fight, with Goku hitting the ground first due to random chance
Goku blasting through King Piccolo's chest
Piccolo killing Goku and Radditz at once
Goku running on Snake Way/training with King Kai
The Saiyans having vegetable pun names
The Destructo-Disc/Kienzan
The Spirit Bomb
"I am the Prince of All Saiyans!"
Beam struggles
The concept of "power levels"/ "hiding your power level"/ "Its over 9000!!"
Krillan wanting to kill Vegeta with Yajirobe's sword
The concept of Super Saiyans
Freiza's many forms
Freiza bouncing Krillan on his horn (eww, gross!)
Cell sucking people up with his tail (its even a fetish now!)
The Time Chamber
Mr. Satan
The Majin "M" symbol
"Buu want pudding!" etc.
Fusion/the Fusion dance

If a character did ANY of those things in another show, wouldn't you immediately think, "oh thats a DBZ reference?" Because if a character had a time skip mechanic I'd be more inclined to say it was a Trigun reference, or a Naruto one, or Jojo. (and Hit, specifically, is a Golgo reference, as surely as that big bear is a Winnie the Pooh one.) An energy sword would be a Star Wars thing (or, in my mind, the Doctor fight from Yu Yu but alas, the world does not share my tastes)

And of all that all that Super can really add is the Gods of Destruction and Goku/Freiza pushing Jiran off together. Which isn't bad, you know, its on par with Red Ribbon, Pilaf and even King Piccolo as far as memorable moments per arc. Its just that the arcs are longer. Whole lot of iconic shit in that Saiyan saga, though, wow. I mean lets face it, twenty years later DBZ is still probably the second biggest Anime has ever gotten in America (Pokemon has it beat,) and even in Japan it still has a market. How much YYH stuff do you see them putting out these days, for instance? How much Saint Seiya stuff makes it over here? Sailor Moon?


I mean don't get me wrong, I liked it-it got better over time, but it felt really memberberries for me and that is never going to come off as iconic in its own right.
 
Lou Wrong said:
I mean don't get me wrong, I liked it-it got better over time, but it felt really memberberries for me and that is never going to come off as iconic in its own right
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The Goku Black Arc and pre-ToP would have benefitted greatly from less callbacks and references for sure. I admit to a bit of bias seeing as a lot of my perception of how big certain scenes were in Super comes from group showings while the series was coming out. (I don't think I can ever forget that people were chanting Freeza's name in the last episode of the series.)

Still, I would argue that in time Super's highlights will get to be as endlessly mimicked and quoted as the series before. I could be wrong, but we'll see once the Dub wraps up where it's popularity goes.
 
I watched the whole DBZ back in the day and even had it taped, then in a depressing fit of self awareness, I realized that I had religiously followed and recorded this series same time every day for four years, to what to me became a series of diminishing returns. DBZ ended and GT came out on the internet, it was terrible, and that is when I generally stopped watching anime in general.

Now I enjoy watching the team four star dubs. They're pretty funny and capture the series well in 9 minute episodes.

I haven't seen Super though it looks fun though, but I don't seem to have the patience or emotional investment anymore.
 
Reminder to all weeb war participants. It is inarguably one of the worst pieces of media that has any following. It has no substance at all. It's like a "so bad that it's good" movie except it has a total running time of hundreds of hours and just becomes "so bad that it's bad" after two episodes. There is no amount of ironic mental gymnastics that one can engage in to legitimize watching this.

I spoke to a friend of mine and he presented me with this as an "epic moment."


That's it? that's what the fuck you're bringing to the table? who wrote this shit, my dick after jerking off four times? This is made by professionals. Honestly. lmao. Where is the intrigue? What does this accomplish that a five minute loop of "I AM REAL STRONG" wouldn't accomplish? There isn't an ounce of flourish to this dialogue. It's the screen equivalent to an AmberLynn binging on a Sheetz fried appetizer platter. You're not supposed to find this appealing once you hit elementary school.

This is a show that should only appeal to toddlers. Not "kids." It's not a "kids" show. Don't give me that bullshit. It's a toddler show. Any "kid" who watches this show should be humiliated if their friends ever find out that they watch it. It's sub-Dora The Explorer. It's sub-Franklin The Turtle. There is no plot. There is no character growth apart from people getting stronger through magic. The only "action" is presented with as much style and as little impact as possible. Everyone punches everyone else a million miles through the air so nothing actually matters. There is no internal logic because the good guy just gets a stronger magic spirit laser beam at the end and kills the bad guy. who gives a fuck. If you are an adult who watches this show and enjoys it then I hope, genuinely, that all the bad things in life happen to you and no one else. Yeah, I'm fucking mad about it.

Your shit doesn't have to be "significant" or "important" but it doesn't have to be detritus either.

You Dragon Ball Bitches ever see this motherfucker of a film?


Now THAT is that SHIT right there brother. See how my nigga Jackie keeps his action grounded in reality so that it can properly escalate in logic and excitement? THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE. THAT'S THE INSPIRATION OF THE HUMAN CONDITION. These are goals that men should aspire to in their pursuit of violence. All this goofball post Wuxia YAYAYAYAYAYAYA infinite punch bullshit is how you end up like being a fat incel with bizarre powertrip fantasies. "Yeah one day I'll be like Goku, I just have to take my magic senshu what the fuck ever bean and go into the space time who gives a fuck chamber and then I'll be able to beat up my mom's new boyfriend." No, dude, you won't, even if you buy the new Dragonball merch from Target or Wal-Mart or wherever they've started selling that shit at it and I KNOW that it's some place like that because everytime I go to the gym there's 3 or 4 manlets wearing the same XXL dragon ball z shirt and I just can just tell they buy their clothes from broke ass places like that. 30% of the people reading this probably own one of these 3 shirts...you know the ones i'm talking about.

but that's the thing i want to get across to you that we got to keep it genuine and real. you cant flood your brain with all this bullshit. you wanna see inhuman creatures in bright colors flying around? do DMT. thats not a joke. you want the real shit shit then get the real shit. youre trying to replicate the power and spirituality of true abuse/exploration of brain chemicals with the same focus tested and jew approved "entertainment" you were watching when you were 7 (and you were fucking stupid when you were 7 even relative to other 7 year olds). that's what the colors are about. this sounds like a joke but it isn't, they discovered that shit in the late 70s, that numbing people to the pleasure of seeing bright colors allows you to control them more easily because they won't seek extreme experiences that would allow them to actually see these colors with their own eyes. that's what all that orange and green is about.

this is the whole porn thing, you understand? if you're always maxed out without putting the effort in you're never going to get it for real...you're training your brain to think that you're experiencing the real shit when you're just watching it. you gotta be able to experiences the waves not just FULL FORCE INFINITE SPEED PUNCH KICK SCREAMING NONSTOP...you gotta know what i'm saying at this point or it's too late. pull it back, pump it up.

i'll give a pass to women who like this stuff because part of what makes a woman a woman is an appreciation for the flatline. they benefit from this sort of thing because it helps them raise children and shit. not that a woman has to do that but if they wanna do that shit then it makes sense for them to not consume media with too harsh of a wave length. i dont want my wife reading osamu daizu and shit, you know? but she can if she wants. i'm just saying that she'll lose her shit. it's my job to lose my shit, not her job. i don't want her watching dragon ball z either but it's OKAY. it's ALLOWABLE, it's within tolerances. but men? come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn this shit can't honestly be part of your rhythm.

calmness should be a very rare treat for men to engage in. you should be reduced to tears when you rest your head on a woman's thighs because it's such a special thing. the true crime of dragon ball is that it reduces real action to calmness. it makes nothing matter. it makes nothing important. fuck off. get it? you're just laying your head on her thigh for hours at a time and it ceases to mean anything...understand...?

imagine the disdain the companies that make this tripe must have for you in order to A: produce this product and B: for you to buy it. lmao. you know why so many blacks like DBZ? It's because they don't have dads and they fantasize about having one that will train them and make them into ultimate fighting machines. I'm sorry you had to hear that from me. These aren't even proper testosterone driven male ego fantasies. toshiro mifune out here sacrificing his whole soul to give you inspiration and you're watching a fucking dragon ball z? get real. haha, remember that time goku used the super spirit bomb to kill freezer but it wasn't strong enough so he used the MEGA spirit bomb...fucking epic bro. AUTOPILOT BITCHTITS. that's what I think when i see a dragon ball dweeb. autopilot bitchtits. brain just ticking along looking for the next bit of immediate gratification regardless of the longterm ramifications. the ineptitude is subtle but unmistakable.




btw you know vic micnogna don't give a fuck aboujt you right? you're fucking consumerist chattel who stands in line to buy DVDs or get autographs or whatever. and he's using that money to fuck chubby consluts with daddy issues while you subscribe to their patreon. imagine how he feels about you. fuck you bitch, watching twelve hundred episodes of 30 minute episodes for the rest of your life until you wake up one day wondering where it all went. watch the killer for 90 minutes, go brush your teeth and get on with your fucking life. if vic mignoga liked you, for real, he'd pull you to the side and be like say "dude. take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue." instead he just takes your money and signs your toy or whatever and says his catchphrase so you'll fuck off.

dragon ball is an entertainment flatline. you are in a narcoleptic stupor if you watch this garbage for longer than 15 minutes. that's the time limit i'm setting. I'm not saying you can't watch more than that, just that you don't stand a chance out here if you watch more than that. Like you're not gonna make it man. dragon ball is the waste product of a good piece of entertainment except they never got around to making the good thing. i wonder how many 20 year olds know the name of all of gohan's hyper ki blasts but don't know what a deltoid is. what's the percentage on that one...probably just go ahead and liquidate myself if were to ever find out to be honest.

picture related it's me fucking knocking some sense into dragon ball boys. yong out.
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I remember watching a couple of episodes of DBZ before school. I realized the show wasn't for me when 3 consecutive episodes had six seconds of animation consisting of Goku's eyebrows twitching as he charged his dragonball beam or whatever the fuck they call it. IIRC he spent three fucking episodes charging that shit only to miss. Either way fuck that blue ballin Japazoid shit. For such a hardworking race of people they sure are lazy when it comes to animating their cartoons.
 
I skipped DBZ and went right to Berserk for my Baby's First Anime.
 
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