Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%

  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%

  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%

  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%
  • Total voters
    1,803
I just think it's funny that this game followed the same patterns they all do. You know. Game is controversial because of reasons A and B which pisses off the old fans because it doesn't represent what made the series good. The usual suspects defend the game to the moon and back, culture mini war ensues. Game comes out, sells somewhat terribly or gets bad reviews or both. Studio suffers for it either immediately or in the long run.

I always ask the same question to the rabid defenders. Where were you when the game needed sales? If the people who say the game will suck because of reasons A and B are the loud minority who don't represent the fans, then why did the game under sell? Surely you and your friends bought copies, right? Why isn't that enough?

It's crazy to me that Jason Schrier gave these fuckers an out and they smacked it away. "No, we made the best game we could. We couldn't have made a better one". Take the out you dense fuck.
 
Rabid defenders are rarely the same people that buy the product they are defending.

They are like Eddie Munster that beg for review copies and early access or just people that commit performative outrage against the "chuds" and "gooners" on Bluesky and X for that dopamine kick. Those that do have the product typically use their supporters' money to do it or they get it through the seven seas.

That's why pandering to them is always a bad idea. Those people are not consumers, almost always never will be.
 
LazyLizard said:
how the fuck does a game have an environmental impact?
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If it's an indieshit game that mentions climate change and humans being bad.

Frosted Snowflakes said:
Brian J. Audette, who worked on Dragon Age: The Veilguard, is having a meltdown and taking his anger on "toxic gamers" because Dragon Age: The Veilguard is a woke piece of shit. Keep breathing that copium, Brian.

And seeing his photo. It's always with the soyboys and the beta male cuckolds.
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It's crazy that they think it's not only the best version but they couldn't have made a better product. These people have no place in this industry.
There is no way that these people have played DA: The Veilguard and thought: "yeah, that's Dragon Age".
 
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I just found out Calpernia was supposed to join the inquisition??!! That would have been interesting. Especially seeing her contrasting with Vivienne. Bioware being Bioware, they of course fucking cut it. Ugh. Boo hiss.
 
Rumored. The whole thing was pieced together that people that had the artbook - like other Dragon Age: The Veilguard tie-ins, they were done based on early iterations of the game. There were illustrations in the artbook that had Calpernia working alongside Rook and companions, probably a companion herself after Solas turned on her and the Venatoris.

It's the same with that Dragon Age: Tevinter Nights anthology. The stories in there are setting up subplots that end up not even mentioned in the game.
 
BlankSpaceBaby said:
Rumored. The whole thing was pieced together that people that had the artbook - like other Dragon Age: The Veilguard tie-ins, they were done based on early iterations of the game. There were illustrations in the artbook that had Calpernia working alongside Rook and companions, probably a companion herself after Solas turned on her and the Venatoris.

It's the same with that Dragon Age: Tevinter Nights anthology. The stories in there are setting up subplots that end up not even mentioned in the game.
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Thank goodness, I hate tendencies of games like Ass Creed and Halo to advance the plot and elevate narrative in secondary media (novels, comics) to canon, rather than using them as a way to re-explore the existing narrative and expand the universe.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6JPMiLcCzz0
Get the popcorn ready. We gonna be here for awhile.
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The way the origins are written so youre always a pariah for going against orders make me want to break fingers. They really scrubbed everything of anything either "offensive" or anything that would dare imply that Rook isn't the awsumsauce coolest. God, it really does sound like fanfic.
 
Sailor Swift said:
The way the origins are written so youre always a pariah for going against orders make me want to break fingers. They really scrubbed everything of anything either "offensive" or anything that would dare imply that Rook isn't the awsumsauce coolest. God, it really does sound like fanfic.
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Meanwhile the background of the chad grey warden are between being betrayed, violated, cucked before ascending into godhood.
The Inquisitor had some interesting ones but not in the same level as Origins, i never saw some family member of the human non-mage Inquisitor or some mage of the circle in the human mage Inquisitor. Gay.
 
Yeah all the Veilguard origins are “Rook disobeyed orders or older people doing a heroism”-compare this to DAO origins, or hell even Inquisition-(while a blank slate, that is partially the point).

Looking back on the games now-I’m trying to find any Titan foreshadowing.

Here’s what I found

Codex entries in Origins-describe the stone being alive or having a sense or direction. The connection of lyrium to the stone and the dwarves is made clear early on.
Notably-the word Isutanoll(basically the sort of hive mind state/peace) the dwarves had with the titans is embedded on Tug’s axe. (Tug is the dwarven party member in Leliana’s Song).
DA2: the reference to the profane in the deep roads-eating the gods, starving. There’s a Golem that says “the stone lives beneath Orlais”-implication being a titan is still alive. Probably would have gone somewhere with that.
Origins also has the guardian at the temple of sacred ashes-it’s notable the mountain is saturated in Lyrium, AND Leliana’s resurrection seems to be tied to lyrium “lyrium song thought into being”(meaning a spirit probably replaced Leliana).
There are some references to Avar mythology-and the frostback mountains are seen as the “roof of the world”.

Some…passages in the chant of light may also refer to the titans.

It’s vague but it is interlaced throughout the narrative.

There is also the notable fact that dwarven history seems to be forgotten before the first blight-the ancient thaig in DA2, and records going back no further than the founding of the dwarven empire. (Only like a thousand years in the past). Meaning something important has been forgotten.

It’s honestly kinda amazing how much hinting there is in background lore-it shows there was a consistent lore bible they were using.
 
Ishtar said:
Yeah all the Veilguard origins are “Rook disobeyed orders or older people doing a heroism”-compare this to DAO origins, or hell even Inquisition-(while a blank slate, that is partially the point).

Looking back on the games now-I’m trying to find any Titan foreshadowing.

Here’s what I found

Codex entries in Origins-describe the stone being alive or having a sense or direction. The connection of lyrium to the stone and the dwarves is made clear early on.
Notably-the word Isutanoll(basically the sort of hive mind state/peace) the dwarves had with the titans is embedded on Tug’s axe. (Tug is the dwarven party member in Leliana’s Song).
DA2: the reference to the profane in the deep roads-eating the gods, starving. There’s a Golem that says “the stone lives beneath Orlais”-implication being a titan is still alive. Probably would have gone somewhere with that.
Origins also has the guardian at the temple of sacred ashes-it’s notable the mountain is saturated in Lyrium, AND Leliana’s resurrection seems to be tied to lyrium “lyrium song thought into being”(meaning a spirit probably replaced Leliana).
There are some references to Avar mythology-and the frostback mountains are seen as the “roof of the world”.

Some…passages in the chant of light may also refer to the titans.

It’s vague but it is interlaced throughout the narrative.

There is also the notable fact that dwarven history seems to be forgotten before the first blight-the ancient thaig in DA2, and records going back no further than the founding of the dwarven empire. (Only like a thousand years in the past). Meaning something important has been forgotten.

It’s honestly kinda amazing how much hinting there is in background lore-it shows there was a consistent lore bible they were using.
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Dagna obliquely describes the Titans (how she momentarily felt "mountain tall") and Kieran will tell a dwarf Inquisitor something like "You can't be taller without the Titans." It's also widely theorized that the Nexus Golem's bark about "The Stone lives beneath Orlais" was a reference to a Titan, i.e., the "Stone" the dwarves revere is itself a Titan.
 
I was not including Inquisition allusions, but yes you're right. Solas also says the dwarves are "a cut off arm still twitching".

Personally...I do think the titan stuff could have been handled better, because its just not integrated that well into the first two games-more should have been done to establish it, because if you just do a superficial playthrough of Origins and DA2 it will feel like an asspull out of nowhere.

Its not, but I can understand why a lot of people felt that way about The Descent.
 
Ishtar said:
I was not including Inquisition allusions, but yes you're right. Solas also says the dwarves are "a cut off arm still twitching".

Personally...I do think the titan stuff could have been handled better, because its just not integrated that well into the first two games-more should have been done to establish it, because if you just do a superficial playthrough of Origins and DA2 it will feel like an asspull out of nowhere.

Its not, but I can understand why a lot of people felt that way about The Descent.
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I don't think it's any more of an asspull than the elven myths being real in Inquisition. Flemeth's weird elven connections in DA2 hinted at it, but no more than all the various weirdness around the dwarves hinted at Something Larger (why do the darkspawn come from beneath the Deep Roads and not the Black City, for instance). Veilguard might have botched it, but that would hardly be surprising.
 
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