Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%

  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%

  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%

  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%
  • Total voters
    1,803
BlankSpaceBaby said:
People didn't even have the enthusiasm to mock those games anymore, I suspect because we are all so tired of all these same-y slops being released back to back like the plop-plop-plop of someone with bad, wet diarrhea into a toilet.
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I've been noticing a very sudden drop in enthusiasm in people discussing this kind of franchise-ruining installments or doomed-from-the-start harebrained projects from both the pro-slop and the anti-slop camps, and not just in games. There's a big release or two that get most of the attention (currently, AC Shadows and Cinderella seem to be the controversies-du-jour) but even those feel shorter and less passionate than the ones before. Even grifters and YouTube culture war vultures seem to lack the energy to commit to their pre-established bit beyond the launching week, while the movies, games or whatever silently underperform in the background, one after another. Sure, we still have enough controversies to have a new one to sperg about every week, but something feels off.
Maybe people have been forced to learn to move on, maybe the culture war battleground has quietly moved elsewhere. Perhaps memberberries have lost their power or phone-related brainrot has hit critical mass and the average consumer now lacks the ability to even remember enough of what they've just consumed to talk or feel anything about it. Maybe Media journalists spiraling into irrelevance at record speeds has something to do with it. It's possible that most people have more important things to get upset about right now. At this point, I don't know if it's a good omen or a bad one.
Hell, even here in the Farms the same apathy is palpable, the lack of piss and vinegar on most threads like this one is clear and the general feeling leans more towards sadness than rage. When the dust from the launch window clears and we've had a good laugh at the memes and the posterior, almost inevitable lay-offs, the threads quickly slow into an almost mournful discussion of the state of the relevant industry. In the other side of the internet, the usual suspects seem to expend all their energy to call detractors nazis and chuds during the pre-launch marketing media push to then pretend that the product bursting into flames just behind them doesn't even exist and never did just a week after release.
In the last couple of months, at least twice I've seen or played something recently released, and thought to myself "this is ass, I bet the farms are having a fun time shitting on it", just to find a couple of posts scattered in random threads about it that say something along the lines of "Meh, moving on".
 
people have just gotten numb to it, woke slop has been pushed so hard in the last couple years people already know what it will be so what is the point? we already know it will be shit without seeing the trailers, without seeing reviews, without playing it. we just ignore it, let it crash and burn then have a little chuckle if we even notice it and then repeat it the next day with a new woke slop game.
 
There are still people defending DAV on Tumblr-some even claiming the game is some sort of masterpiece and you are either a chud or just haven't engaged with it properly if you didn't get it.

To be entirely charitable-could DA4 have been a good game? Yes. Are there elements in Veilguard that warrant at least cursory regard for what was attempted? Yes. DAV is ultimately a game about regret and how one deals with the past-or at least its an attempt at that. I do think there is something interesting about Solas-the last of the Evanuris, taking the burden of sustaining the veil on himself-both to atone for his crimes, and because it is a sign of him returning to his true roots-a spirit of wisdom, no longer a jumped up pride demon, but a creature humbled and thus having regained that which was lost to him through sacrifice. The evanuris stuff in general I do like...in principle anyway.

As far as culture war stuff is concerned-I think both sides are in their own echo chambers and no one makes a pretense about trying to convince those who disagree at this point.

Anyways-I'll always remember playing Origins and getting to the point where Leliana starts singing. I was transfixed after that. The beauty and the sorrow, and the lyrics-that's when I think I really fell in love with the series.


"elder your time is come
now I am filled with sorrow
weary eyes need resting
heart has become grey and slow
in waking sleep is freedom
we sing, rejoice
we tell the tales we laugh and cry
we love one more day"

^^That is dragon age to me.
 
Forgotten Beast said:
Sure, we still have enough controversies to have a new one to sperg about every week, but something feels off.
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Woketards are scrambling to find anything besides the word "chud" to defend their slop (while not actually buying/paying for any of it themselves), developers are actively dodging the (career) gallows while screaming at us to stop being such meanie-heads, and the rest of us are content to just let it burn. The first two groups aren't improving, they're just failing and flailing, and it's immensely satisfying to just smugly sit back and watch from a safe distance.

Not much else to it really. It's all a broken record now, almost on autopilot, so there's not much left to say apart from the snickering.
 
Oliver Onions said:
Remember Immortals of Aveum? A game so successful I had to google how to spell 'Aveum' because I thought it was called 'Immortals of Avaeneum'?
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Sad, I remember watching some early previews and thinking, "A male protagonist? A streampunk battle mage? Kinda cool." Then the game dropped and I started hearing that you need a super high-end PC to even run the game halfway decently, on top of particle overload that makes one's eyes bleed after a while, millennial writing and cringe one-liners, and a gameplay that doesn't change much from start to end so that is kinda boring too.
 
BlankSpaceBaby said:
Sad, I remember watching some early previews and thinking, "A male protagonist? A streampunk battle mage? Kinda cool."
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I remember the gameplay trailer dropping and being surprised EA was attempting something so out of their comfort zone --relatively speaking, from what I've heard it's basically just an FPS with a Skyrim mod-- then I got the game for free through PS+ not long after release so I assume it bombed hard.
 
I kind of want this slop to hit gamepass so I can create the trooniest troon who ever did troon and name xer Troony McTroon Face. Then uninstall.
 
Forgotten Beast said:
I've been noticing a very sudden drop in enthusiasm in people discussing this kind of franchise-ruining installments or doomed-from-the-start harebrained projects from both the pro-slop and the anti-slop camps, and not just in games. There's a big release or two that get most of the attention (currently, AC Shadows and Cinderella seem to be the controversies-du-jour) but even those feel shorter and less passionate than the ones before. Even grifters and YouTube culture war vultures seem to lack the energy to commit to their pre-established bit beyond the launching week, while the movies, games or whatever silently underperform in the background, one after another. Sure, we still have enough controversies to have a new one to sperg about every week, but something feels off.
Maybe people have been forced to learn to move on, maybe the culture war battleground has quietly moved elsewhere. Perhaps memberberries have lost their power or phone-related brainrot has hit critical mass and the average consumer now lacks the ability to even remember enough of what they've just consumed to talk or feel anything about it. Maybe Media journalists spiraling into irrelevance at record speeds has something to do with it. It's possible that most people have more important things to get upset about right now. At this point, I don't know if it's a good omen or a bad one.
Hell, even here in the Farms the same apathy is palpable, the lack of piss and vinegar on most threads like this one is clear and the general feeling leans more towards sadness than rage. When the dust from the launch window clears and we've had a good laugh at the memes and the posterior, almost inevitable lay-offs, the threads quickly slow into an almost mournful discussion of the state of the relevant industry. In the other side of the internet, the usual suspects seem to expend all their energy to call detractors nazis and chuds during the pre-launch marketing media push to then pretend that the product bursting into flames just behind them doesn't even exist and never did just a week after release.
In the last couple of months, at least twice I've seen or played something recently released, and thought to myself "this is ass, I bet the farms are having a fun time shitting on it", just to find a couple of posts scattered in random threads about it that say something along the lines of "Meh, moving on".
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there's a bit of a post-trump fugue, and new bars have been set recently for levels of fail with Dustborn and Concord's double feature. On top of that, the trend of adding wokeness to brand new properties has largely settled - most of the properties left to be tainted by it are probably never going to go full retard at this point for whatever reason (like Mario and Monster Hunter), while the rest have had the writing on the wall for years.

Calling out wokeness in games has become boring... which is actually even worse for companies still trying to peddle it than provoking strong backlash. they can't get the pity-marketing from pretending they are poor, defenceless corporations against a cabal of guys on their bedroom computers. People can just tell from a glance that 'wow, this looks like shit' and correspondingly keep the fuck away.

on the whole, a large portion of the games 'anti' crowds have stopped being actively angry about the shows, and are now functionally apathetic to it. they've made some level of peace that any good things in the franchises are a half-decade out at best, so why bother making a fuss? just roll your eyes and move on. which means that a lot of the fervor we've been seeing recently isn't about the fact these things're failing, but the spectacle of it - dustborn never cracking three digits concurrent on Steam, concord never making four digits concurrent despite having gotten amazon to make an animated episode for them, assassin's creed's making yasuke a gay black man who fucked the current emperor's ancestor and posing on nuclear war memorials, snow brown and Rachel Ziegler's neverending cavalcade of gaffes and fuckups. combine that with the legacy games media websites being deader than ever, along with institutional trust being at an all-time low, and it means that you really have to be a spectacular fuckup to get wide-scale traction.
 
Disc said:
Calling out wokeness in games has become boring... which is actually even worse for companies still trying to peddle it than provoking strong backlash. they can't get the pity-marketing from pretending they are poor, defenceless corporations against a cabal of guys on their bedroom computers. People can just tell from a glance that 'wow, this looks like shit' and correspondingly keep the fuck away.

on the whole, a large portion of the games 'anti' crowds have stopped being actively angry about the shows, and are now functionally apathetic to it. they've made some level of peace that any good things in the franchises are a half-decade out at best, so why bother making a fuss? just roll your eyes and move on. which means that a lot of the fervor we've been seeing recently isn't about the fact these things're failing, but the spectacle of it - dustborn never cracking three digits concurrent on Steam, concord never making four digits concurrent despite having gotten amazon to make an animated episode for them, assassin's creed's making yasuke a gay black man who fucked the current emperor's ancestor and posing on nuclear war memorials, snow brown and Rachel Ziegler's neverending cavalcade of gaffes and fuckups. combine that with the legacy games media websites being deader than ever, along with institutional trust being at an all-time low, and it means that you really have to be a spectacular fuckup to get wide-scale traction.
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Kind of. The AC Shadows shit show only lasted as long as it did because of the months of delays. And other than the boring grifters what is there to really talk about for these failures after laughing at them for a couple of weeks and moving on? Even the game publishers themselves seem to be willing to give up on their 200+ million dollar failed investments after a month.

What are the odds someone is actually going to find something new in AC Shadows to laugh at in a week? 3 months? Everyone saw everything stupid in Veilguard within 2 weeks of the launch of the game and it's not as if EA was going to invest anything else into the game to "fix" it. Even Concord, as colossal as that failure was, still had a lot of its post failure discussion driven by retards claiming it was the greatest shit ever, trying to call out the chuds, etc.

Even the Snow White bullshit, people will be done talking about it by the end of the month and Disney itself will have moved onto whatever dumpster fire they're working on next and everyone knows it.
 
I don't know how many of you follow the Hugo awards and what a terrible joke they've become over the last couple of decades (I imagine there must be a few of you), but it sure looks like they're not course correcting any time soon.


Engadget doubles down on their original shilling, reminding the reader they called Veilguard "BioWare at its best." Clown shoes.
 
Mola Ram said:
I don't know how many of you follow the Hugo awards and what a terrible joke they've become over the last couple of decades (I imagine there must be a few of you), but it sure looks like they're not course correcting any time soon.


Engadget doubles down on their original shilling, reminding the reader they called Veilguard "BioWare at its best." Clown shoes.
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Did they get a nomination at the BAFTA awards?
 
The Hugo over the years has become basically a circle jerk for a circle of woke authors to nominate and award themselves and their BFFs. They predated the Oscars in demanding that nominees pass their purity test before earning any nomination.

The average Hugo nominee and winner these days have the same narrative caliber as that game, so it's not really surprising.
 
ME5 is virtually dead on arrival.

ME3 came out 13 fucking years ago and isn't remarkably highly regarded (neither is Andromeda) - so unless they're going to do something fucking wild and really creatively dig deep and make a generational game (they won't) there really isn't a point in leveraging the ME IP outside of pretty naked desperation. Given how far Veilguard went backwards on RPG mechanics, can't imagine that ME5 isn't going to get hit with the same "creative decisions".
 
When fucking Andromeda ends up being the better game you know you fucked up. Pack it up, close studio up, etc etc. Veilguard shit the bed so badly that it sunk through the floor.

If they were smart they would do a rerelease of Jade Empire on PSN but they won't because we can't have nice things.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
If they were smart they would do a rerelease of Jade Empire on PSN but they won't because we can't have nice things.
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Oh ffs no. They would tune it for a "modern audience" make the evil characters all white and turn the women all black and hideous.

If they want a success with ME5 they need to go back to ME1 where you could at least roleplay with different outcomes for quests. Not that I expect them to make a Baldur's Gate in space but ME2 and ME3 were basically just cover shooters without much RPG elements
 
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