Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[popnloch ness monster]

Meh, you're the one who couldn't tell the difference between a man and a woman. Looks like Vincent Price to me.
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Even made the dude a necromancer.

no, YOU couldn't tell a woman modelled after an ethnic woman to play a fantasy ethnic woman was a woman, try to remember

it's forgivable if you're just making a "le epic racism" and saying brown people are so ugly and grotesque that you can't tell women apart from the men, but if you're not, you're just wrong

it's John Waters for the simple reason John Waters is a fag and the character is most likely a fag made by a company that's made up of 75% fag hags who all probably have a picture of John Waters somewhere in their apartment - if there's any truth to the bits about companions shacking up with each other if the player doesn't make a move, you can be sure John Waters there will be sucking down on the brown rogue's cock in full glory and you'll get to see him wipe cum off his moustache

there will also be a pun about how Lucanis is a specialist in taking down mages as he's being rimmed by a necromancer

 

[Sailor Swift]

These two posts go well together. Oghren was deeply dislikeable at the start but he grew on me over time because of the level of dialogue they wrote for him. I think at some point you learn that his drinking and behaviour cost him his wife, iirc, and he's just on a downward spiral from there. By the time you meet him, he pretty much just wants to die and end his misery and your quest gives him an opportunity for one final burst of purpose. It's pretty tragic.

From there, we get DA:I with Sera asking Cassandra "Have you ever punched a bear?" Which was one of her better lines.

I loved Oghren. He names his firstborn child after the Warden after it's all said and done. That was a really sweet idea.

 

[Overly Serious]

I loved Oghren. He names his firstborn child after the Warden after it's all said and done. That was a really sweet idea.

Yeah. It's not that Origins didn't do comic banter. It had quite a lot in fact. But it felt more organic and sincere. Like the entirely natural sniping between Leiliana and Morrigan who were two very different women. Or Sten's lines were often funny without intending to be jokes at all.

The dog had some of the funniest lines, of course.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Yeah. It's not that Origins didn't do comic banter. It had quite a lot in fact. But it felt more organic and sincere. Like the entirely natural sniping between Leiliana and Morrigan who were two very different women. Or Sten's lines were often funny without intending to be jokes at all.

The dog had some of the funniest lines, of course.

I think this is one of the things that BG3 nailed: letting the humor emerge naturally from the setting (Speak With Animals is a comedic goldmine) and letting the dramatic moments breathe. There's no "Well, THAT just happened" interjections after Shadowheart finds her parents, or Wyll makes his final choice, or Karlach's finale. For all its faults, the game never sets out to remind you that you are playing a game.

I don't think DA: Neovagina or whatever can handle that.

 

[Sailor Swift]

Yeah. It's not that Origins didn't do comic banter. It had quite a lot in fact. But it felt more organic and sincere. Like the entirely natural sniping between Leiliana and Morrigan who were two very different women. Or Sten's lines were often funny without intending to be jokes at all.

The dog had some of the funniest lines, of course.

The writers also used the banter to build characters' lives outside of your adventures. Like revealing that Alistair liked practicing with polearms, or in DA2, where Aveline thanks Fenris for tipping off the guards about the slavers. They didn't just run off and "date" each other if you don't fuck them fast enough--they went on missions of their own.

It was really endearing, too, watching people who initially dislike one another grow to respect and maybe even like each other. Or sometimes the characters never found common ground other than a shared purpose or goal, like Fenris and Anders. Those two fought bitterly up until the end, and if anything, their fighting intensified.

The whole "found family" trope is one of my favorites, though. The games did it very well. You are correct, though: the dog had the best lines in the entire series.

Anyway. Enough sperging from me. Which part of the fandom do you think will have the biggest disappointment: the people who romanced Solas or the people who want to romance Varric?

 

[Mola Ram]

Which part of the fandom do you think will have the biggest disappointment: the people who romanced Solas or the people who want to romance Varric?

Oh, the Solasmancers, no question. Those people are already unwell, and if my creeping suspicion that they've totally blown Solas turns out to be correct, then the disappointment will strike on multiple levels, in multiple dimensions.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

It's going to be millennial writing smeared all over the plot, isn't it?

 

[Throng of Titans]

It's going to be millennial writing smeared all over the plot, isn't it?

It's a certainty with any big budget "RPG" that comes out in the next few years, until this current dev cycle is exhausted most likely.

The idea of a fantasy game that takes itself mostly seriously and isn't trying to smash constant Joss Whedon wannabe one liners in your face has been a dead art for years, BG3 may reinvigorate the genre a bit, but it will take time for it to trickle into new projects.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Imagine if after Shadowheart finally found her parents and realized she couldn't save them Karlach went

"Well that just happened! Awkward! (eye roll) and then did a Fortnite dance.

That's this fucking shit.

 

[Sailor Swift]

Oh, the Solasmancers, no question. Those people are already unwell, and if my creeping suspicion that they've totally blown Solas turns out to be correct, then the disappointment will strike on multiple levels, in multiple dimensions.

I'm calling it right now: the Inquisitor doesn't even share a scene with Solas, romance or not. He might make a single reference to it, but that's it. There'll be no conclusion.

There's someone I know IRL that's convinced Alistair is going to make an appearance, and there's a chance we'll get to romance Varric finally. Solasmancers aren't well, but they're not the worst of the bunch.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Everyone has those uncanny doe eyed overly long angular faces like in the Dishonored games.

Always did think that art style was ugly as fuck.

 

[Mega Black]

Or Sten's lines were often funny without intending to be jokes at all.

Remember how Sten will bribe the Templar at the docks with a box of cookies he stole from a fat kid if you fail the dialogue checks? No jokes like that ever again. Can't offend the fatties.

calling it right now: the Inquisitor doesn't even share a scene with Solas, romance or not. He might make a single reference to it, but that's it. There'll be no conclusion.

According to the 4chan leak Solas never appears in the rest of the game. It's apparently a heist story and the dreadwolf stuff will be relegated to DLC.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Can't get over how we've gone from the Arishok to whatever that last thing is.

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[Mola Ram]

According to the 4chan leak Solas never appears in the rest of the game. It's apparently a heist story and the dreadwolf stuff will be relegated to DLC.

That is fucking criminal (if true).

 

[Ishtar]

Yeah, it sounds like the game went through multiple development cycles and the end product won’t resemble what was intended originally or even what the product was going to be 5 years ago.

I genuinely would laugh so hard if they end up lowering the stakes by accident. “Elven gods?” “Qunari invasion” “other stuff” play the DLC or wait for the fifth game nerds, all you get is some Tevinter magisters and super cartoonish darkspawn(they don’t even look like Darkspawn; they look like skeletons ).

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

That is fucking criminal (if true).

It's what you get and deserve if you buy a modern-day Bioware game without waiting for all the non-shill reviews and YouTube clips to come out first.

 

[Apex Otter]

I cannot wait for the inevitable collapse of the gaming industry; there's simply no way that these modern wokeshit games make enough money to recoup costs and marketing. The last absolutely excellent game I played was Lies of P. Great story and world with tight gameplay and no political leanings that took me out of the game; Hell, Lies of P even commits the grave sin of having attractive characters and no joggers whatsoever in it.

Everyone has those uncanny doe eyed overly long angular faces like in the Dishonored games.

Always did think that art style was ugly as fuck.

Game is set in a dirty and decrepit London-like city, one also infested with annoying and unintelligent British-like people... Hmm, maybe I'm looking too deep into things, but perhaps the French devs were inspired by a certain country they once rivaled with?

 

[Overly Serious]

The whole "found family" trope is one of my favorites, though.

I've come to dislike it intensely. There's nothing wrong with it in itself - someone without a group of close people finds one and a place to belong. That's positive.

But it's being set up - deliberately - against traditional family by LGBTQ etc. Look at how many movies and shows are about someone not getting along with their real family and finding a better one that accepts their True Self!

Once noticed, it cannot be unnoticed how heavily this is pushed by Hollywood and institutions. The messaging is plain - your family don't accept you, we do! Found Family > Real Family. It's fucking everywhere.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

According to the 4chan leak

Breh.

 

[Mega Black]

Breh.

They're not always wrong. We learned Ubisoft was making the next Japanese game a nigger through a 4chan leak. There's a not-zero chance that it is accurate.

Whether that's because it's a genuine leak or just a solid guess is up for debate.