Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Observotron]

Don't worry guys, the weekend bump is coming.... just you wait....

 

[Lurking no more]

Now name a modern-day video game that even has this.

Tastes have changed in the last 5 centuries. The modern day equivalent is buff men striding around nearly nude, or men in heavy armor with oversized torsos compared to actual male armor, both of which you have no trouble finding. Neither is remotely practical, but it emphasizes aspects of the male form to increase its sexual appeal. Boob armor is not strictly practical, but as stated by other posters previously, armor has never been designed solely for practicality.

Also, stop double posting. You can include multiple quotes in one message.

No. If I had to guess (as I can't read the mind of every woman), it's probably because fantasy is easier to digest and understand than sci-fi. And DA is more tactical (or, at least, Origins was) than Mass Effect, which just abuses the shit out of the cover system

See?

 

[LazyLizard]

It's skinsuit Dragon Age.

For those of you unfamiliar with the concept:

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accurate, these people see something popular, infiltrate, co-opt it, cut out anything interesting and fill it with whatever is politically and socially acceptable at the time, happens way to much.

 

[Ishtar]

Wait you used to be able to hit the tab key and that would light up areas on the map where there were loot boxes and stuff.

(Or relevant plot objects).

You have to search every nook and cranny manually.

Hard pass on that shit.

 

[Deus Exica]

why the FUCK would you decide to add on even more steel to it, make it heavier, weigh you down, and thus make you a slow-moving target?

Because it's cool.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Wait you used to be able to hit the tab key and that would light up areas on the map where there were loot boxes and stuff.

(Or relevant plot objects).

You have to search every nook and cranny manually.

Hard pass on that shit.

I'm sure there would be mods to fix that... eventually.

All the more reasons to wait before buying if you really want to run around as Troonita the Mighty in this blighted version of Thedas.

 

[MeltyTW]

No, they wouldn't. (Here's a hint as to how I know: I'm a woman.) If you're wearing a cuirass that's made of steel and weighs 20 lbs., why the FUCK would you decide to add on even more steel to it, make it heavier, weigh you down, and thus make you a slow-moving target? Think with your head for once, and not your dick. Retard.

youre assuming women would have the same role which they most likely wouldnt, and even now iirc female soldiers dont have to shave their heads and can wear makeup and iirc even accessories and are famous for fucking alot of their colleagues. and thats without factors like fantasy strength etc. i didnt really mean to shit on you specifically im just really really sick of pretending like women would be these chaste buff girl bosses who dont need no man when we all know theyd be strutting in slutty gear and fucking around the clock.

we all fucking know it all the girls complaining about that shit on social media ive seen wear stuff just like it

All this while releasing during an open time for RPGs, on a holiday, not long after another game (BG3) massively reignited mainstream interest in RPGs. The deck could not have been more stacked in their favor and they still floundered.

i think they really are just banking on the fact that in a vacuum 70k is a big number to count to or would be a lot of peaches to have etc. and itll always be more of an argument if you cant just point to an obviously low concord or dustborn tier sales.

 

[tigergrinder]

Tastes have changed in the last 5 centuries. The modern day equivalent is buff men striding around nearly nude, or men in heavy armor with oversized torsos compared to actual male armor, both of which you have no trouble finding. Neither is remotely practical, but it emphasizes aspects of the male form to increase its sexual appeal.

That's not even remotely close to tit armor and you know it.
A man's torso is not defined by society as "sexual" in the least. Otherwise, men would be required by law to cover up at all times. And way to just handwave away ridiculous male armor as "tastes have changed", yet still get pissy when a woman points out that the boob armor trope is outdated and retarded. So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh? God, you're a faggot.

Doomguy's armor in the original Doom didn't have the abs exposed on purpose: the box art clearly shows a thinner, underlayer was torn away by a demon's claws. At no point was he designed to look sexual, give me a fucking break. Name a game where the men are sluttier-looking than the women.

 

[Tablet County]

TIT ARMOR IS TOTALLY UNREALISTIC/PLAUSIBLE

 

[Estate]

That's not even remotely close to tit armor and you know it.
A man's torso is not defined by society as "sexual" in the least. Otherwise, men would be required by law to cover up at all times. And way to just handwave away ridiculous male armor as "tastes have changed", yet still get pissy when a woman points out that the boob armor trope is outdated and retarded. So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh? God, you're a faggot.

Doomguy's armor in the original Doom didn't have the abs exposed on purpose: the box art clearly shows a thinner, underlayer was torn away by a demon's claws. At no point was he designed to look sexual, give me a fucking break. Name a game where the men are sluttier-looking than the women.

Remember gentlemen, this is what happens when you let trannies into your hobby.
They ruin anything that's even remotely fun and make it a "society issue".
Get AIDS and die, faggot.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

. Name a game where the men are sluttier-looking than the women.

Heh, you walked into this one. Later Mortal Kombat games, where women are all covered up and have hideous manjaws, but the men are allowed to be thirst traps for strong empowered troons and women.

Most egregious is Kano, who could have stepped out of a Tom of Finland showcase, with his introduction even seeing him peeing crudely.

Then there is Shao Kahn who has the biggest tits and nipples in the whole game...

 

[MeltyTW]

So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh? God, you're a faggot.

its that men and women both said "huh kinda looks faggy" to the point bat nipples were derided in the batman movies. but with boob armor it literally is mostly just self hating women who want to pretend they dont try and entice men despite constantly doing that and trying to pretend women in magical armor wouldnt also do that.

Heh, you walked into this one. Later Mortal Kombat games, where women are all covered up and have hideous manjaws, but the men are allowed to be thirst traps for strong empowered troons and women.

Most egregious is Kano, who could have stepped out of a Tom of Finland showcase, with his introduction even seeing him peeing crudely.

Then there is Shao Kahn who has the biggest tits and nipples in the whole game...

yeah they act like its still the 00s. also iirc the newer games flopped so tbf it doesnt seem like a popular thing with women and they shouldnt have tried the same cheap tactic in a different context like this because it wont work.

 

[Deus Exica]

man's torso is not defined by society as "sexual" in the least.

Have you ever been to the romance section at your local bookstore? A whole hell of a lot of that totally non-sexualized torso on display. Men just aren't retarded enough to care.

So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh?

Well women basically design all the armor in videogames now so they actually do. That being said, people want armor that is aesthetically pleasing and boob-plate looks better than flat chested man masquerading sets.

If we are examining it from a purely functional or realistic perspective then women shouldn't really be present on the battlefield at all, especially in medieval environments.

At no point was he designed to look sexual,

You know somebody had to design him to have that ab window tear, right? Somebody clearly decided to add a little ab there to make him attractive and added a little visual storytelling in the process.

Heh, you walked into this one. Later Mortal Kombat games, where women are all covered up and have hideous manjaws, but the men are allowed to be thirst traps for strong empowered troons and women.

Watch her say those don't count because 'this design element disqualifies your argument because I have decided it doesn't count as sexualization.'

 

[Lurking no more]

A man's torso is not defined by society as "sexual" in the least. Otherwise, men would be required by law to cover up at all times. And way to just handwave away ridiculous male armor as "tastes have changed", yet still get pissy when a woman points out that the boob armor trope is outdated and retarded. So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh? God, you're a faggot.

Tastes have changed in regards to how masculinity is portrayed. For instance, medieval armor emphasized men's hips because that was seen as desirable at the time, while modern fantasy armor instead emphasizes the torso. Oversized codpieces were used at the time, but not now.

Boob armor may not be to your tastes, but it evidently isn't outdated by the fact that it is still a popular design, and it is precisely because it emphasizes the femininity of the wearer.

Doomguy's armor in the original Doom didn't have the abs exposed on purpose: the box art clearly shows a thinner, underlayer was torn away by a demon's claws. At no point was he designed to look sexual, give me a fucking break. Name a game where the men are sluttier-looking than the women.

I was more referring to the nearly nude barbarians of fantasy, but Doomguy's armor is ripped like that to make him look more manly.

 

[tigergrinder]

Heh, you walked into this one. Later Mortal Kombat games, where women are all covered up and have hideous manjaws, but the men are allowed to be thirst traps for strong empowered troons and women.

Most egregious is Kano, who could have stepped out of a Tom of Finland showcase, with his introduction even seeing him peeing crudely.

Then there is Shao Kahn who has the biggest tits and nipples in the whole game...

I said slutty.

Wearing pants isn't slutty. I'm talking slutty as in, showing as much skin as possible, all the armor accentuating or exposing the body, and as skimpy as possible. This doesn't even count as slutty, dude, are you kidding me? You seriously think this is a slutty thing for a guy to wear? As for Shao Kahn, eh, he looks a little slutty, in a Conan-sort of way, but compared to Mileena or Katana, this isn't shit. I wanna see slutty dudes in my games.

Boob armor may not be to your tastes, but it evidently isn't outdated by the fact that it is still a popular design, and it is precisely because it emphasizes the femininity of the wearer.

It's "popular" because a bunch of men designed it and, until fairly recently, okayed that sort of thing all the way to release. Women don't like being sexualized, it's not that hard to understand. I don't know why you're trying to defend that sort of thing when you must, at some level, understand that it's wrong. That it's creepy. That women don't want to be treated like that.

Well women basically design all the armor in videogames now so they actually do.

Name one. And post an example of the boob armor she designed that's in a game.

That being said, people want armor that is aesthetically pleasing and boob-plate looks better than flat chested man masquerading sets.

By "people", you mean men. Boob-plate armor isn't aesthetically pleasing to 50% of the audience. And lol, "flat-chested man masquerading sets". So in your eyes, this sort of thing is absolutely unacceptable, then, huh? Absolutely verboten? Too mannish?

 

[FatalTater]

Tony Down Under is playing more Veilguard.
Guess he's been having Problems playing on stream. This video has no commentary for the first 48 minutes.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

@tigergrinder You don't really know gay porn, do you? Kano is practically coded to be the BDSM bear trope prevalent in the genre. The creative lead, who is shockingly gay, knows what he is doing.

 

[Observotron]

I said slutty.

Slutty for who? Because most women don't look for the same things a guy would. Exposed chest/abs/shoulders are essentially having ass and tiddies out for a chick. Hell, Even Gay men look for that stuff, but they appreciate ass a bit more.

 

[Deus Exica]

man's torso is not defined by society as "sexual" in the least.

Have you ever been to the romance section at your local bookstore? A whole hell of a lot of that totally non-sexualized torso on display. Men just aren't retarded enough to care.

So men are allowed to decide when armor designs are stupid, but women aren't, huh?

Well women basically design all the armor in videogames now so they actually do. That being said, people want armor that is aesthetically pleasing and boob-plate looks better than flat chested man masquerading sets.

If we are examining it from a purely functional or realistic perspective then women shouldn't really be present on the battlefield at all, especially in medieval environments.

At no point was he designed to look sexual,

You know somebody had to design him to have that ab window tear, right? Somebody clearly decided to add a little ab there to make him attractive and added a little visual storytelling in the process.

Heh, you walked into this one. Later Mortal Kombat games, where women are all covered up and have hideous manjaws, but the men are allowed to be thirst traps for strong empowered troons and women.

Watch her say those don't count because 'this design element disqualifies your argument because I have decided it doesn't count as sexualization.'

Wearing pants isn't slutty.

Lol there it is. The guy is completely uncovered minus a pair of khakis, he's slutty.

 

[tigergrinder]

Slutty for who? Because most women don't look for the same things a guy would. Exposed chest/abs/shoulders are essentially having ass and tiddies out for a chick. Hell, Even Gay men look for that stuff, but they appreciate ass a bit more.

Do you fucking talk to women at all? Women like ogling men's asses, too.