Down the Rabbit Hole / Fredrik Knudsen

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Why did he drop youtube, when so many other youtubers before him have done the Youtuber-to-twitch-streamer change and come out with worse and worse content because of it?
Simple explanation is, as it keeps being said, he got burned out making the EVE Online vid. It's not quite on the level of the Spoony Movie, as I believe the EVE vid will eventually come out, but I still feel like he's crossing a threshold of no return with this gay vtuber shit.
 
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I just dont get the appeal, why not do this shit with your real face. Its like a strange gay puppet.
Null on mati alerted to the femboy/boykisser arc of knudsen and seeing this video, ngl it's like seeing that kid quiet kid who was fun but weird become a complete whore.
Agree he's probably gonna be come trans, not all of them do but with how knudsen seems to be obsessed with self introspection and changing his channel content to be perfect.
also feeling bad for spoony but not even trying to make an interview to follow up to "correct the record" is cringe and lazy.
His pinned comment on the Spoony video

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I think you don't know what self-reflection is, Fred.
he's more Lolcow tuber linkara than spoony, isnt he?
My god his view on the people who use this website is so fucking gay
>Well maybe if they just socialized and made friends they wouldn't be so heckin transphobic or something
Fuck off
Just because people are so vocal about their opinion on trannies dosen't mean they're social outcast
This kind of mindset just comes off as projection
I honestly think that horror snob furfag nightmind has had too much influence on his outlook on the internet
I mean, it's stones and glass houses sorts of shit. or does he unironiclly think that people with healthy irl socialization are into furry TF porn and making videos on gay internet shit.
 
Yup Knudsen is a full-on anime Twink faggot, I guess no more DTRHs
My god his view on the people who use this website is so fucking gay
>Well maybe if they just socialized and made friends they wouldn't be so heckin transphobic or something
Fuck off
Just because people are so vocal about their opinion on trannies dosen't mean they're social outcast
This kind of mindset just comes off as projection
I honestly think that horror snob furfag nightmind has had too much influence on his outlook on the internet
"You're Not Normal" says the 6 Foot Man in a Dress
 
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Posted on his "The Battle of May Island" video. Which one of you retards is this?
 
Simple explanation is, as it keeps being said, he got burned out making the EVE Online vid. It's not quite on the level of the Spoony Movie, as I believe the EVE vid will eventually come out, but I still feel like he's crossing a threshold of no return with this gay vtuber shit.
The EVE video is apparently only being held up by the animation, which is supposedly 90% set. It could still be months or so away, yet I still think it’s going to be out.

It’s probably going to be the last actually well-researched (not actually well-made, the animation is terrible) video he makes. There’s effectively only four ways it can go after that:

1. We never see another DTRH
2. We see a DTRH on VTubers in order to promote this shit, it’s inevitably the final DTRH
3. He suddenly starts trying to to do DTRH on politically divisive topics (DTRH: The Trans Movement) to “stick it to the old fans”, becoming a Breadtuber
4. He kills himself or at least just DFEs before any of this happens, especially if the video on EVE is poorly received

There’s no scenario where this bullshit ends in more normal, “researched” episodes of DTRH.
 
3. He suddenly starts trying to to do DTRH on politically divisive topics (DTRH: The Trans Movement) to “stick it to the old fans”, becoming a Breadtuber
Do most of his old fans even know about his current shit? I assume most just thought he left or something after the multiple hiatuses
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This is channel awesome tier bullshit, you are not fucking Naruto, you don't need some epic edgelord backstory for your vtuber shit. just have a character, maybe make some running jokes in there, and not take it too seriously. also if he's trying to make it unrelated to his shit why tie it to his real name if it is not some weird power fantasy bullshit?
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skimmed through the backpages of this thing, how the fuck did genosammuel stay relatively normal while Knudsen became so fucked producing a video made him a nervous wreak?
 
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Very interesting. He's falling down the same rabbit hole of a lot of the subjects of his videos. Gets all his needs met without working and turns gay like the mice in mouse utopia. Plans massive video that never gets made and tanks his YouTube like Spoony. Becomes a degenerate furry like the ones he covered. Makes believe that he is a cartoon like the FF house. Gets lost along the way and destroys his allies like the May Island ships.
 
Do most of his old fans even know about his current shit? I assume most just thought he left or something after the multiple hiatuses
Knudsen has been a non-anthromorphised owl vtuber on twitch for like a year or two before the Astralane annoucement. If I remember correctly, I think I've heard Knudsen's vtuber activities from Pippa's Merryweather interview but I'm not sure and I don't really want to watch the whole thing again. Haven't followed his twitch that much as I barely visit that website but I have seen glimpses of his vtuber-style content. From what I can remember, his chat was full to the brim of tumblrite types with pronouns on their twitch bio. He talks like the average run-of-the-mill EN fujobait with the likes of Vox Akuma from Nijisanji and it just creeps me out, totally different from his tea time streams on youtube back in 2020. And yes, they're of significantly lower quality compared to Quarantea.
 
Very interesting. He's falling down the same rabbit hole of a lot of the subjects of his videos. Gets all his needs met without working and turns gay like the mice in mouse utopia. Plans massive video that never gets made and tanks his YouTube like Spoony. Becomes a degenerate furry like the ones he covered. Makes believe that he is a cartoon like the FF house. Gets lost along the way and destroys his allies like the May Island ships.
we all know he will never reach the status of god emperor terry,
 
Saw a comment on MATI that this is "Lumi but not the real Lumi"?

I used to be a fan of Merryweather Media, back when they just made comics. The Vtuber shit was where I knew things were going to go south and I dipped (at least, when Merry himself did it. I tolerated Lumi for a few weeks).

What's going on with this. Anyone know if Lumi's been replaced or something?
 
C'mon dipshit show restraint you'll startle the cow.
I agree. He’s becoming my favorite potential cow because I used to be somewhat of a fan until this vtuber shit. The last stream with Mike is what made me start to change my mind on him tbh. It was low effort, low T except for Mike technology boomering, and rambled on FOREVER on that gay Indian cult shit that wasn’t even funny.
 
Simple explanation is, as it keeps being said, he got burned out making the EVE Online vid. It's not quite on the level of the Spoony Movie, as I believe the EVE vid will eventually come out, but I still feel like he's crossing a threshold of no return with this gay vtuber shit.
The problem with the Spoony Movie is that, as Noah admitted, it was never meant to be a Spoony movie, it was meant to just be a movie but he worded it poorly and knew that if he did anything else, people would be pissed. So he had to come up with something even though he had no interest in doing it. And Noah is the ultimate contrarian, it was part of his appeal but also what caused him to go on long hiatuses because he only likes to work on his own things when he wants to unless someone else is doing the heavy lifting.

I don't know if the EVE video will come out this year, but I think it will come out eventually. At this point any other video would only get comments about when it's coming, but I feel like people would have preferred he do the Eve video as a side project and do smaller things so he has a more frequent upload schedule.
 
I just dont understand the need for the animations at all. Ken Burns style documentaries are very popular still, so popular theres a wikipedia page on his style. I dont need shitty gifs of 2d ships, just show me a picture of a fleet, pan and zoom. Fred has a good narration voice when he is scripted, he could have broken this down into eras of EVE and done an entire series.



This is a teaser for the animations Arcaxon posted. This is what you have to look forward to after years.

This is a monster of his own making. The legend of the project has enveloped the end product. Peoples expections will be astronomical and when he cant meet them the whole thing will implode, thus the backup of being a faggot vtuber.

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He peaked at 565 yesterday, which seems about average. I tried watching but he talks at a weird pace, and the nature of the game itself means he is constantly talking at the game and not interacting with viewers. Another thing I noticed is that since the "debut" he is only at around 4 hours of streaming per day. I would have thought the first few weeks he would really grind it out to maximize engagement and potential new viewers.
 
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The problem with the Spoony Movie is that, as Noah admitted, it was never meant to be a Spoony movie, it was meant to just be a movie but he worded it poorly and knew that if he did anything else, people would be pissed. So he had to come up with something even though he had no interest in doing it. And Noah is the ultimate contrarian, it was part of his appeal but also what caused him to go on long hiatuses because he only likes to work on his own things when he wants to unless someone else is doing the heavy lifting.

I don't know if the EVE video will come out this year, but I think it will come out eventually. At this point any other video would only get comments about when it's coming, but I feel like people would have preferred he do the Eve video as a side project and do smaller things so he has a more frequent upload schedule.
In fairness, I don't think Spoony ever seriously intended to make a movie. He more than likely just included it as a Patreon perk thinking it would never be reached. It ties into something that LordKat said in his infamous rant against him: Spoony always talks about these dreams and things he wants to do but he never does any of them because they require work and sacrifice that he would get too overwhelmed at doing. They are just pipe dreams he has that he thinks maybe one day will magically just happen for him.

The movie is ultimately the best example of that: he included it thinking it maybe one day could be a possibility if someone else came along and did everything for him. But then the fans rallied to help him achieve his dream, and suddenly he found himself overwhelmed at the fact that the day had come for him to seriously pursue his dream. He naturally couldn't handle it and that is why things went off the rails so quickly.

As far as why Fredrik is going down the path he is, I think it is just a combination of changing times on YouTube. It is easier to do a livestream and collect chat revenue than it is to both research and edit a video where you possibly might not be receiving ad revenue on. Plus there is also just a lot of people doing what he is doing now. In 2016 and 2017, there wasn't a lot of channels like his. Now and days there are tons of documentary style YouTube channels chronicling the oddities of the internet.

To tie into all that, censorship has also been a big issue. Now and days you are so limited as far as what you are allowed to say compared to five years ago. Last night I was watching a video about the Amanda Todd saga from a guy called Nick Crowley, a YouTuber who chronicles a lot of the more heinous criminal content taking place on places such as YouTube and other social media sites. It is amazing just how many words he has to censor because actually saying them would either get the video demonetized or completely taken down.

At the end of the day, Fredrik is more than likely losing interest in his own creation. It would be hard to tell his fans that, as most of them would probably leave since that is what kind of content they invested in him for. We see it with so many content creators, he just happened to be one who couldn't avoid it.
 
I just dont understand the need for the animations at all. Ken Burns style documentaries are very popular still, so popular theres a wikipedia page on his style. I dont need shitty gifs of 2d ships, just show me a picture of a fleet, pan and zoom. Fred has a good narration voice when he is scripted, he could have broken this down into eras of EVE and done an entire series.


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This is a teaser for the animations Arcaxon posted. This is what you have to look forward to after years.

This is a monster of his own making. The legend of the project has enveloped the end product. Peoples expections will be astronomical and when he cant meet them the whole thing will implode, thus the backup of being a faggot vtuber.

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He peaked at 565 yesterday, which seems about average. I tried watching but he talks at a weird pace, and the nature of the game itself means he is constantly talking at the game and not interacting with viewers. Another thing I noticed is that since the "debut" he is only at around 4 hours of streaming per day. I would have thought the first few weeks he would really grind it out to maximize engagement and potential new viewers.
Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty, this fucking 5+ hour docu is being held up FOR THAT!?!?!??! Basic bitch animation? Are you fucking for real? What's wrong with using game footage? Failing that, then okay, use sci fi footage from public domain shit like Flash Gordon serials or use obscure B movie shit like Battle Beyond the Stars (produced by Roger Corman) and slap a filter on it. That's all you need to do if you want to illustrate a sci-fi battle but cannot use game footage for whatever reason. My guess is that Fred's doing this out of a favor for the animator but he's tanking his channel by doing this favor.

Shit, you can probably use A.I. to do a better job.
 
Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty, this fucking 5+ hour docu is being held up FOR THAT!?!?!??! Basic bitch animation? Are you fucking for real? What's wrong with using game footage? Failing that, then okay, use sci fi footage from public domain shit like Flash Gordon serials or use obscure B movie shit like Battle Beyond the Stars (produced by Roger Corman) and slap a filter on it. That's all you need to do if you want to illustrate a sci-fi battle but cannot use game footage for whatever reason. My guess is that Fred's doing this out of a favor for the animator but he's tanking his channel by doing this favor.

Shit, you can probably use A.I. to do a better job.
Oh, it gets even dumber: According to them, Fred fully paid for their dental surgery.
 
Just learned about the VTuber crap, and all I gotta say is…what the fuck, man? How do you go from one of the best documentary YouTubers to this?

Should I pour one out?
 
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