Down the Rabbit Hole / Fredrik Knudsen

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Red flaming panda said:
>One year later
>He's a fucking v tuber who gimmick is he's gay
>Still no signs of that EVE doc coming out anytime soon
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It's sad to see the way he's fallen for sure, but Fred had already fallen down the V-tuber faggotry hole by this point last year, just with his furfag rig rather than the anime twink faggot one, the writing's been on the wall for quite a while now, sadly.
 
UnknownCloser said:
It's sad to see the way he's fallen for sure, but Fred had already fallen down the V-tuber faggotry hole by this point last year, just with his furfag rig rather than the anime twink faggot one, the writing's been on the wall for quite a while now, sadly.
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The earliest sign I found is in 2018 when he went to a furry convention to do a panel (if any of you can find that lost media that would be great)


We got great pics out of it
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The guy in the black suit in nightmind his Vtuber buddy btw

Nigga even comissioned an Owl mask in 2019
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Dude went from: I am not a furry, I am a honorary furry, I am interrested in the furry community, I am an Owl and now I am a twink anime boy and I kiss boys.
 
Suffer not the furry, least you suffer their poison. No really, if there is a furry in your life, tell them to give it up or give them up. They will ruin theirs, and eventually yours, mental health.
 
Abowaffen said:
I think it may be time to move this thread out of multimedia.
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I'll wait until he does something more cow worthy. Becoming a V-tuber was foreshadowed when he decided to do V-tuber streams with that owl avatar before. These tweets are weird but if you watch any old Jabrony Mike stream with Fred, he made comments like that before (As in, very homosexual). That EVE video is never coming out isn't it?
 
I hope this isnt a bad sign for the future of his channel. I'm pretty sure Fredrik Knudsen introduced me to lolcows with his Chris Chan video. Ended up discovering a really fun podcast also talking about CWC back when youtube's recommendations weren't fucked by a lispy queer. Its gonna suck to see someone I admired troon out on anime, and the other podcast is running on fumes since the co-host left. Why is everyone I like becoming gayer than they normally are.
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
Hahaha, his "lore" is fucking Caligula says history isn't real? Is the moral that a repressive culture determines what are rabbit holes, and we shouldn't think people are weird just because they do and like weird things. This is Knudsen's troll's remorse taken to the next level: we shouldn't laugh at weirdos --> define normal --> the unconscious biases of society make people outcasts and pariahs, and thinking people are weird is actually genocide.
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Someone should make a YouTube series called 'Down the Troll's Remorse', since apparently it's a brainrotting parasite that turns you into the most self flagellating cow. It's very bizarre that he chose the History is Dead/a Lie as his character arc since its a pretty radical opinion to take, but with these ex-trolls (as he likes to think of himself as one) they have some weird reformed complex and become super cereal.

When it comes to history as a Praxeology, it's very scrutinised and isn't simply just books of narrative filled with bias and hate, and that your history is just as good as mine.
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And as @wtfNeedSignUp pointed out:
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Wow, what a brave and original opinion

Now do Hitler.
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For all we know, Adolf Hitler was just a man who needed a jewish best friend penpal while learning the morals of Live Laugh Love, I wonder if Knudsen is also gonna be having bias and hate against him through the very history he claimed as a lie. It's a point as profound and deep as being told that water is H2O.

What's ironic in this is that he attacks history through his own narrative (the vtuber lore) that he created just for that purpose.

History is more real than the delusions of a man dressing up as a 3d anime png.
 
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For all we know, Adolf Hitler was just a man who needed a jewish best friend penpal while learning the morals of Live Laugh Love, I wonder if Knudsen is also gonna be having bias and hate against him through the very history he claimed as a lie. It's a point as profound and deep as being told that water is H2O.
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I remember reading that Hitler had some Jews he preemptively given option for shelter in another country to before the final solution, one was a doctor that took care of his mother and one was an officer that served with him in the trenches and given him a medal. There is also the whole vegetarian/ecological angle he took decades before it became popular.

Back to topic, it's all ridiculous. If it is troll remorse then it's ridiculous since, unlike normal history, lolcows are basically recorded real time in front of the cameras 24/7. There is no hidden good side, what you see is what you get. Second it's just a juvenile outlook on history, you need to be innocent to think history is 100% factual and isn't filtered through layers of bias and propaganda. But we still stick by it because it's the best we have and we new discoveries can fix old misconceptions. Pointing it out consistently is like someone discovering communism and thinking that class struggle is some new notion.

Also if Fred actually will do history in this mindset he'll almost certainly fall into the same hypocrisy groups like Extra Credits fell into, where they ignore historical texts to simp for savage backwards cultures being really great LGBT allies and similar shit.
 
So I have been trying to dig up more stuff since it seems he is moving towards cow territory. Did anyone notice he was quoted in this article about the farms by the rag motherjones?

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Kiwi Farms users often refer to themselves as “autists.” This is helpful to remember.

On first glance, the forum can look ludicrously right wing. Racial epithets are common. So are slurs like “fag” and “tranny.” Misgendering is the norm. Fredrik Knudsen, who has observed Kiwi Farms for his internet-focused documentary YouTube series, Down the Rabbit Hole, noted that “there is an understood anti-trans feeling” across the community. “They believe it’s a sign of cultural degeneracy. It harkens back to their conservative bent,” he said.

But Knudsen thinks there’s something else happening beyond just ideology: “What draws people to the Kiwi Farms is difficult to place and is different for each person, but for a significant number of them, there are likely aspects of themselves that they see in the subjects of their derision,” he explained. “Many of the people on the boards (unironically) profess to have autism or struggle to maintain relationships with other people.” In conversations, the site’s targets told me they often thought the harassers’ similarities to their victims are part of the motivation.

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CHARizard said:
So I have been trying to dig up more stuff since it seems he is moving towards cow territory. Did anyone notice he was quoted in this article about the farms by the rag motherjones?

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Kiwi Farms users often refer to themselves as “autists.” This is helpful to remember.

On first glance, the forum can look ludicrously right wing. Racial epithets are common. So are slurs like “fag” and “tranny.” Misgendering is the norm. Fredrik Knudsen, who has observed Kiwi Farms for his internet-focused documentary YouTube series, Down the Rabbit Hole, noted that “there is an understood anti-trans feeling” across the community. “They believe it’s a sign of cultural degeneracy. It harkens back to their conservative bent,” he said.

But Knudsen thinks there’s something else happening beyond just ideology: “What draws people to the Kiwi Farms is difficult to place and is different for each person, but for a significant number of them, there are likely aspects of themselves that they see in the subjects of their derision,” he explained. “Many of the people on the boards (unironically) profess to have autism or struggle to maintain relationships with other people.” In conversations, the site’s targets told me they often thought the harassers’ similarities to their victims are part of the motivation.

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“They see themselves in the subjects of their derision”
Fuck off dude

All we want to do is to laugh at retards on the Internet. The autism thing is a fucking meme. Are yourself so autistic to the point you couldn’t see this through? God lord he’s such a fucking faggot
 
Arcaxon, who is Freds "partner" (I think in the business sense, but who knows at this point) and is responsible for all the animations, has delivered an update!

Progress Update: 9/11/23
Hey everyone, progress on the FINAL section is going well with 21% of it completed already on a somewhat turbulent week. if I keep the pace I do believe the video might be finished BEFORE September ends! 🎉

Today is my Birthday (September 10th), and I'm still disappointed I couldn't finish the video before my birthday, I really do owe all of you an apology for the botched time estimate I gave for the production of these animations & the slowness of my work.
There were several factors that really impacted all of this, a lot out of my control but still a lot in control.

When the original estimate was given publicly in March/May of this year only very few of the animations were done as I required final narration before I could work on animating anything. I was overconfident that I could finish all the work at the time but in hindsight the amount of work that was left was actually the majority of the work on the video. I thought that having the map and most of the assets for the animations meant I could probably breeze thru the video production as I had with the battle of May Island but that was very incorrect.

The main difference here is that, The Battle of May Island was 3 canvases with a dozen of assets while Eve Online is over 70 Canvases with over a hundred assets, some of which I had to create as I was going along, a good chunk of assets about a third were made as I was animating.

Having never worked on a project so large I did not realize how much work it would be and told Fred some poor estimates he then forwarded to all of you.

I felt like I needed to explain why it took me so long to animate as I don't want you to get overhyped for these animations which are in essence very similar to May Island's and older videos with minor improvements.

A lot of other lessons were also learned while producing this video, all of which will be useful on the much shorter videos we'll be releasing next!

Once more, I have to thank all of you for your patience when it comes to this video, you're absolutely fantastic and I would not be where I am today without Fred and you guys.

Now, for show and tell today I have a project which my partner (Not Fred) and I have been working on unrelated to the current video. (I'm barely helping them, this is all their work)

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More will be revealed in the future!

-Arcaxon

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The script seems to have been recorded and done, its this furry thats held up the video with the animations. He basically told Fred an estimate of hoe long it would take and then didnt deliver.
 
CHARizard said:
So I have been trying to dig up more stuff since it seems he is moving towards cow territory. Did anyone notice he was quoted in this article about the farms by the rag motherjones?

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Kiwi Farms users often refer to themselves as “autists.” This is helpful to remember.

On first glance, the forum can look ludicrously right wing. Racial epithets are common. So are slurs like “fag” and “tranny.” Misgendering is the norm. Fredrik Knudsen, who has observed Kiwi Farms for his internet-focused documentary YouTube series, Down the Rabbit Hole, noted that “there is an understood anti-trans feeling” across the community. “They believe it’s a sign of cultural degeneracy. It harkens back to their conservative bent,” he said.

But Knudsen thinks there’s something else happening beyond just ideology: “What draws people to the Kiwi Farms is difficult to place and is different for each person, but for a significant number of them, there are likely aspects of themselves that they see in the subjects of their derision,” he explained. “Many of the people on the boards (unironically) profess to have autism or struggle to maintain relationships with other people.” In conversations, the site’s targets told me they often thought the harassers’ similarities to their victims are part of the motivation.

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Fred wishes he'd studied psychology and made something of himself instead of being an internet autist, but he didn't so now he's an internet know-it-all that believes himself to be better than others because he holds the "correct" beliefs and political views.

Many such cases, pseudo-intellectuals and troons the lot of them.
 
I've never dressed up as an animal and shit in a diaper, pretended to have medical issues to the point of putting an unnecessary feeding tube into myself or made a 10 hour documentary deep-diving a lost episode of classic Doctor Who, so not seeing the similarities.

Insufferable faggots and trans retards never want to admit that they're a subject of discussion because regular people find their insufferable faggotry and trans retardation funny/fascinating, it has to be because people are jealous, want to fuck them, or secretly are the same way. To admit that they're alone in the mess they've created for themselves would require too much self-reflection.
 
CHARizard said:
But Knudsen thinks there’s something else happening beyond just ideology: “What draws people to the Kiwi Farms is difficult to place and is different for each person, but for a significant number of them, there are likely aspects of themselves that they see in the subjects of their derision,” he explained. “Many of the people on the boards (unironically) profess to have autism or struggle to maintain relationships with other people.” In conversations, the site’s targets told me they often thought the harassers’ similarities to their victims are part of the motivation.
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It's poetic (on the article) how they deprive any humanity (or individuality for a better word) that the lolcows has more than here, by omitting the reason they're laughed at are the actions and choices they have done ultimately. Occam's Razor, people see funny shit and laugh at funny shit; not because of a Freudian explanation that there is some deeper meaning or a cabal of Internet autists (that's Discord).

Pop Psychology and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
JamusActimus said:
This is from this year
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Here's current pics
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JamusActimus said:
The earliest sign I found is in 2018 when he went to a furry convention to do a panel (if any of you can find that lost media that would be great)

https://fp2018.sched.com/event/HwBg/defining-furry-down-the-rabbit-hole-live https://archive.ph/wip/14YD7
We got great pics out of it
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You know, I was pretty neutral at first since I don’t really know/follow Fred (only DTRH), but after seeing these pictures along with everything else, this dude is 100% going to troon out either this year or next. You can just tell. He reminds me of Mr. Beast’s new out ‘n’ proud lady-boy, Chris. Same looks, demeanor, and slow erosion of any dignity and self respect. Can’t wait to meet the lovely Fran Knudsen!
 
JamusActimus said:
The earliest sign I found is in 2018 when he went to a furry convention to do a panel (if any of you can find that lost media that would be great)


Dude went from: I am not a furry, I am a honorary furry, I am interrested in the furry community, I am an Owl and now I am a twink anime boy and I kiss boys.
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What gave it away?

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