Divinity 3 - The man with the most friends is the man with many cheeses!

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Estate said:
Did you only play the Original Sin games?
Those games are kinda goofy, cartoony and light hearted, so it's understandable.
But if you'll ever try the older games, you'll take this statement back.
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Nah, I did not, fortunately.

I still see a difference in this trailer from both Divine Divinity and Divinity 2's art direction. Divinity 2 was as whimsical charming as it was dark and macabre. I only saw the latter in this trailer. May be it is the more "realistic" style of the trailer, with less weird whimsical features that D2 had.

Man, I wished they kept D2's art direction for both DOSs, Aleroth was such a nice place to explore.
 
Can't wait to pirate it in 2032 after waiting for it come out of early access since 2027!
A universal complaint I have that applies to all modern games is the time between announcement and release, and I don't expect this to differ on that front.

The trailer was gross. Which I'm going to say was the point, and I think it emphasises it by turning initially non-disgusting scenes disgusting once the celebration turns sinister. I had to come to this thread after seeing people say the trailer was created specifically to laud the scenes taking place within which I find baffling.
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You got the usual medieval merriment with the occasional debauchery, right? It's like a fair, parents and kids, dancing, singing, and so on. The first instance of vomiting in the pig pen was meant to be comedic. The orc-guy has had too much to drink, but after spewing he raises his tankard, smiles, is smacked encouragingly on the back and someone cheers. I think this initial presentation of events before the turn is giving people a mismatched perception of the trailer's intent. It's because this wouldn't be too out of place and it initially doesn't seem all that bad that it helps amplify the actual fucked up nature of what's happening when the complete picture is slowly revealed.

Compare this guy's face during the day prior to the reveal vs when we're first shown at night.
"Extra doner – just for you, bossman, it's on the house."

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"Who told you about Izzat?"

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The actual turn occurs here, when we linger for a moment on this guy's fear.
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Then everything we saw/heard to this point and after is then recontextualised as being fucked up.

We aren't just shown there's going to be a man burnt alive. It's sinking as much horror and vileness into the next minute it can to explain and then justify what happens to these people - including the children.

(1) They could've kept him hidden as the wickerman burns (a piece of tarp is covering just him, not the entire idol), but he's intentionally exposed to onlookers so they can watch him writhe and scream in pain as he burns alive.
(2) The musicians stop when the bells toll to let people know the burning is about to begin, and then start up again.
(3) The flagellants continue to whip themselves, hinting the task isn't for some purpose of keeping evil subdued or some other grimdark-ism
(4) The mother smiles at the sight, and only looks away when her crying daughter yanks several times on her skirt
(5) The public orgy is revealed behind the back of the flagellants, creating the image of combined pain and pleasure - think Hellraiser.
(6) The daughter's crying is revealed not to be because she's upset at the events unfolding, it's because she can't watch otherwise, and is hoisted on the mother's shoulders, jubilant and clapping.
(7) A chunk of the man's flesh falls to the ground, and the earth melts, corrupting it. The religious figure who initiated proceedings is confused before a demonic rose grows from it. He looks upon the burning man, seemingly unphased by it or already accepting of what's about to happen.
(8) The comedic-if-gross scene from before of the man vomiting into the pig pen is now overwritten by what appears to be the same orc vomiting directly into the mouth of a pig
(9) We're shown in quick succession a bunch of images that can be linked together: The burned man's melted arm tearing apart, a man tearing into a piece of meat with his teeth, a pig on a spit over a fire, a couple at the orgy, the pigs feasting on the still vomit with one licking it from the face of the other, a close up of a man's mouth as chews messily on meat, before it's capped off with a burning man, whose eyes have melted and he lets out one last scream before the collective sin of the onlookers bursts out of his back as a hurricane of evil.

This is about everything we see within a minute before they're all karmically wiped out. This is a hedonistic cult celebration that has been so engendered into wherever this is, that it's become normal enough to bring kids to – *cough* pride parades *cough*

Alternatively this is a completely normal and acceptable occurrence but they burnt the wrong sacrifice which is the sole reason everyone died at the end. There's another possibility why it's become normal in the context of the setting.

In the Divinity setting (at least from playing original sin 1 & 2) the 7 gods stole divine power from under their boss' nose, fucked him and everyone else off to a void (kind've a purgatory) and created morals in their own individual images because living things generate the power they feast on (Source). They weren't great morally but their biggest opponents (their old manager + the secret 8th guy they kind've fucked over but he's the devil so who cares) were also the biggest threat to mortals, so working with them was kind of necessary – not that many even knew what their true nature was in the first place. At the end of the 2nd game these 7 Gods are killed and their former boss (who has been continuously invading from purgatory from the very start) can potentially be locked away forever if you pick the game's most selfless ending - give up your source.

The elephant in the room with the events described is that the 7 gods are dead, the threat to the 7 gods is also dead/rendered a non-issue... but the devil is still alive with absolutely 0 entities capable of countering or resist him. Whoops.

So with that in mind, we're seeing a world seeing a moral decline because the only being capable of exerting authority is evil incarnate and he has been growing stronger in the power vacuum since the end of Divinity Original Sin 2 (assuming they did the "give up your source" ending). In this setting God and the Devil are occupying the same role now, which is understandably a fucked up situation for everyone.

Regarding some handwringing over the trailer potentially being seen by children, unless you're of the sort that supports stuff like the Online Safety Act mandating age verification, all the sources to watch/view the trailer itself do specify the intended audience.
The Youtube video for the trailer say before it plays:
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And the video is age restricted.
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The Game Awards were also ESRB-rated.
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I don't know whether the stream itself was locked to age verified accounts or not, but basically, the audience for the awards were expected to be of a certain age.
 
>IMPLYING said:
So with that in mind, we're seeing a world seeing a moral decline because the only being capable of exerting authority is evil incarnate and he has been growing stronger in the power vacuum since the end of Divinity Original Sin 2 (assuming they did the "give up your source" ending).
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It's very likely to be the cannon ending for the new game as it was for the cancelled spinoff game called Fallen Heroes. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Divinity title recycles as much as it can from the games that were cancelled before BG3's release.

Excerpt from a 2019 article where Larian's Kieran Kelly was interviewed (L | A):
There are multiple endings to Original Sin 2, so the canonical ending in this case is that the Source has left the world. That means Lucian is still leading the Divine Order but he's no longer with The Divine. They still call him The Divine but he no longer has that power.

The only real Source magic left in the world is still aboard the Lady Vengeance. This is because Malady, being Malady, found a small loophole on the ship, and so she's got a bit of Source for herself. That's roughly where we start.
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Jace on ice said:
Well I guess just like with BGS3 I'll buy this and play the shit out of it while ignoring the retard screeching from joyless fucks.

Such is life.
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Tell me you are a woke piece of trash without telling me.

Not giving money to people who hate Whites and support the genocide of Whites via mass immigration, apparently makes you a "joyless fuck". Aside from that, transforming White fantasy worlds into degenerated (bear fucking) nigger slop (nigger druids) is apparently awesome and should be rewarded with money.

Divinity 3 will be full of niggers, wogs, strong warrior women, and everybody will be bi-sexual, aka, woke slop. Actually the perfect game for Kiwifarmers, only Redditors love woke slop games more.


Looks like a muslim.
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PanLake007 said:
Tell me you are a woke piece of trash without telling me.

Not giving money to people who hate Whites and support the genocide of Whites via mass immigration, apparently makes you a "joyless fuck". Aside from that, transforming White fantasy worlds into degenerated (bear fucking) nigger slop (nigger druids) is apparently awesome and should be rewarded with money.

Divinity 3 will be full of niggers, wogs, strong warrior women, and everybody will be bi-sexual, aka, woke slop. Actually the perfect game for Kiwifarmers, only Redditors love woke slop games more.


Looks like a muslim.
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I really don't care about your schizo obsession with Agartha and black people. Keep your retarded politics out of people's hobbies and go have kids or whatever if you want to save the white race.
 
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PanLake007 said:
Tell me you are a woke piece of trash without telling me.

Not giving money to people who hate Whites and support the genocide of Whites via mass immigration, apparently makes you a "joyless fuck". Aside from that, transforming White fantasy worlds into degenerated (bear fucking) nigger slop (nigger druids) is apparently awesome and should be rewarded with money.

Divinity 3 will be full of niggers, wogs, strong warrior women, and everybody will be bi-sexual, aka, woke slop. Actually the perfect game for Kiwifarmers, only Redditors love woke slop games more.


Looks like a muslim.
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how exactly is a mob of degenerates engaging in basically every deadly sin and then getting punished for it meant to be woke? i wonder if people like you even play games or just go from outrage to outrage desperate to find something to get mad about
 
Personally I just see an extremely transparent effort to replicate the outrage marketing of BG3 and I refuse to take part. All the reason I need to write it off.
And clearly all the degeneracy of BG3 only emboldened them so I if I give this the same "well it's pozzed but it's still kinda good if you ignore that" pass I'd only be making the industry even worse. Can't say I don't learn from my mistakes.
 
I only played Divine Divinity, so I am not too familiar with the rest of the series and Larian. You can do shocking trailers, but why would this shit entice me to play the game ? I find this torture porn shit obnoxious and juvenile. They released that completely retarded bear sex thing to drum up interest in Baldur's Gate 3 and now this crap. You can do this with a bit more nuance. If the game had been release after the trailer, I could have at least understood it to boost sales, but the game seems to be a couple of years away, so what's the point ? And from my limited knowledge, a lot of modern day bullshit crept its way into BG3, so I don't expect this to be better in any regard.
 
I Know 孤独のせい said:
I only played Divine Divinity, so I am not too familiar with the rest of the series and Larian. You can do shocking trailers, but why would this shit entice me to play the game ? I find this torture porn shit obnoxious and juvenile. They released that completely retarded bear sex thing to drum up interest in Baldur's Gate 3 and now this crap. You can do this with a bit more nuance. If the game had been release after the trailer, I could have at least understood it to boost sales, but the game seems to be a couple of years away, so what's the point ? And from my limited knowledge, a lot of modern day bullshit crept its way into BG3, so I don't expect this to be better in any regard.
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This thread got 6 pages within it's first 24 hours and most of it is sperging about how "woke" the game that doesn't have any proper footage of it is released. They know how to sell their game, and the same morons that cried about the bear in Baldur's Gate 3 are going to once again advertise the game for them, for free.
 
30+GameOvers said:
This thread got 6 pages within it's first 24 hours and most of it is sperging about how "woke" the game that doesn't have any proper footage of it is released. They know how to sell their game, and the same morons that cried about the bear in Baldur's Gate 3 are going to once again advertise the game for them, for free.
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You are right, this clearly worked in spectacular fashion with BG3 and now with Divinity. Can't fault Larian for leveraging the internet outrage and people working for free on behalf of someone else. The only important thing in the end is if the game is good or not.
 
Jace on ice said:
Why are people sperging about how woke D&D is in here? That's completely irrelevant here since Divinity is a separate IP with its own lore.
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I will help you. Here:
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Pattern recognition
 
The Mighty Banth said:
It's like Cuties. The movie theoretically deplored child exploitation but it spent time lavishly display exactly the thing they actually condemned.
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This is my take as well. It's not that the trailer presents the Satanic orgy with children watching as a good thing per se. And, like Cuties, it may even nominally/superficially be saying "This obviously bad thing is bad, actually!"

But, what did the movie actually consist of? 90 minutes of kids twerking and stuff, right? People didn't tune in to learn a valuable lesson that children aren't sex objects. They tuned in to watch children *be* sex objects.

Likewise, here, everyone ends up dying as a result of their human sacrifice festival. Granted. But what did you actually consume as entertainment? Interspecies sex, vomiting into a pig's mouth, a man agonizingly burnt alive, etc.

It all exists, like Cuties or monkey torture videos, not for any sincere moral lesson or to contrast with an (unseen) greater good, but to titillate and arouse people with the depraved acts on screen that they enjoy intrinsically.
 
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