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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Disney aren't going to redo the sequels or any of that bullshit, they just won't revisit them with shit like the Rey spin-off. To redo the sequels would be such a shit show, it would piss off everyone who worked on them, and what would be marketing for them? "This time we won't fuck them up"?. Makes no sense to even try.

If they want a whole new trilogy, the smart move would be to do one set far in the past or far in the future, with no returning cast. Desperate move would be to make movies set between OG and sequels with cgi deaged Luke, but no numbering.
 
If people call this nigga a male roll model then we are fucked.

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Purple fur Pomeranian said:
If people call this nigga a male roll model then we are fucked.

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I’ve said it a million times, and I’ll say it again. I can’t get over how godawful these character designs are. It stirs some kind of unreasonable anger deep within me. Also all I really know/remember about Wade is that he’s a crybaby bitch who never stops being a crybaby bitch and his parents are racially insensitive to the fire chick.
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
I’ve said it a million times, and I’ll say it again. I can’t get over how godawful these character designs are. It stirs some kind of unreasonable anger deep within me. Also all I really know/remember about Wade is that he’s a crybaby bitch who never stops being a crybaby bitch and his parents are racially insensitive to the fire chick.
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For real, so the person who made this just decided to disregard actual good Disney role models like Hercules, Tarzan, Aladdin, or Peter Pan for Wade. Hell, even Nick isn't seen as a green flag. But this water nigga is?
 
Purple fur Pomeranian said:
For real, so the person who made this just decided to disregard actual good Disney role models like Hercules, Tarzan, Aladdin, or Peter Pan for Wade. Hell, even Nick isn't seen as a green flag. But this water nigga is?
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they had agency
I dunno what water nerd did but I assume it wasn't much so he's okay
those guys who did things were hecking chudarinos
 
You know, I always had a soft spot for Lion King 2, mostly because just how engaging Zira is a villain, she basically carries this whole movie.

Its just crazy that we went from having a machiavellian scheming villain in the first movie to whats pretty much a fanatical warlord. I think the only thing that kind of sucks is that Zira wasnt in the first movie at all and we never really got to know whatever relationship she and Scar had when he was alive. The funny thing is that the awful live action remake could have fixed that by having Zira appear at some point, but then again, that would imply there was ever a chance L.K 2 would get the same treatment and we all know it doesnt carry the same legacy the first one had so thats out of the question.

Scar's song was about being prepared for a coup and that he will rule all afterwards
Zira's song is all about killing her enemies in the most agonizing way possible and how they'll violently take over

Both songs are great but Zira's just has a scarier contrast because she isnt playing up her violent tendecies, she is being 100% honest about the horrible things she and others will do to their enemies, even making it clear she did consider forgiving and forgetting but she just prefers the far more violent route.

She did belong in a "bigger" movie if it makes any sense, something on the scale of the original, its almost weird to say she is almost too good for a straight to DVD sequel.

Purple fur Pomeranian said:
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All that liquid and there isnt a hint of Testosterone in him.

The funny thing is that ladies claim to want this but they dont really want it. Their software and hardware are getting conflicted, as it often does.
 
The handsome tard said:
You know, I always had a soft spot for Lion King 2, mostly because just how engaging Zira is a villain, she basically carries this whole movie.
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The deleted scene shows just how much she sticks to her beliefs to the end, in that she just chooses to die instead of being helped by Kiara.

Of all the things for Disney to change at the last second, it was that one. Couldn't even fucking commit.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
The deleted scene shows just how much she sticks to her beliefs to the end, in that she just chooses to die instead of being helped by Kiara.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jwur3xu8OgI
Of all the things for Disney to change at the last second, it was that one. Couldn't even fucking commit.
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This version of her original death actually looks really good, especially for a YouTube reanimation.
 
The handsome tard said:
Its just crazy that we went from having a machiavellian scheming villain in the first movie to whats pretty much a fanatical warlord. I think the only thing that kind of sucks is that Zira wasnt in the first movie at all and we never really got to know whatever relationship she and Scar had when he was alive. The funny thing is that the awful live action remake could have fixed that by having Zira appear at some point, but then again, that would imply there was ever a chance L.K 2 would get the same treatment and we all know it doesnt carry the same legacy the first one had so thats out of the question
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Part of why Zira works so well in the sequel was how she was implanted in the film.
She was a fanatic who truly believed that Scar was the rightful King of the Pridelands, even after he essentially destroyed it.
You can see this devotion to Scar in how she raised Kovu.

Not only does she essentially raise Kovu to be Scar's successor, but the moment she learns he got close to Simba's daughter, she quickly twists that into a ploy to get Kovu closer to Simba so that he could kill him.
She raised her own child to be an assassin.


And what makes this more fuck up is that Kovu isn't even blood-related to Scar. Hell, it's implied that Kovu might not even be blood-related to Zira and was only taken because he looks similar to Scar.
You can see how this has painfully affected him when he claims there's a darkness in himself.


Zira is an emotionally abusive mother who grooms her own children to her own means, and ultimately, this led to one of her kids getting killed in that pursuit to please her.
 
Jormungand said:
Zira is an emotionally abusive mother who grooms her own children to her own means, and ultimately, this led to one of her kids getting killed in that pursuit to please her.
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It's pretty fucked since Nuka looks close to Scar's visage, but he was obviously not the favorite (or he was until Kovu came along). And then Vitani was essentially to be Zira's Mini-Me, but she was also neglected.
 
Purple fur Pomeranian said:
Unpopular opinion, I never like the Lion King series. I always hated it.
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Thats fine but any particular reason? Or it just kind of didnt "click" with you? It happens to us all.
Kari Kamiya said:
The deleted scene shows just how much she sticks to her beliefs to the end, in that she just chooses to die instead of being helped by Kiara.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jwur3xu8OgI
Of all the things for Disney to change at the last second, it was that one. Couldn't even fucking commit.
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Thats why I find it so weird that Zira is a straight to DVD villain because the sheer intensity and dark subject material that this character carries legit makes her "risky" and thats for the standards of the theatrical movies, if we go with the other straight to DVD sequels, most of them tend to be, at best, downgrades from the original villain but Zira stands out that much.
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
This version of her original death actually looks really good, especially for a YouTube reanimation.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cLYHgNEqp2o
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The only thing I didnt like about the reanimation is the fact it almost kind of tones down her crazed death smile

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Tho I do like how you can see the fear get slowly replaced by acceptance and realization that she can spit at Simba's bloodline one last time by denying their mercy.

She just portrayed deranged hatred so well.
Jormungand said:
Part of why Zira works so well in the sequel was how she was implanted in the film.
She was a fanatic who truly believed that Scar was the rightful King of the Pridelands, even after he essentially destroyed it.
You can see this devotion to Scar in how she raised Kovu.

Not only does she essentially raise Kovu to be Scar's successor, but the moment she learns he got close to Simba's daughter, she quickly twists that into a ploy to get Kovu closer to Simba so that he could kill him.
She raised her own child to be an assassin.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DcvqZ19XHCc
And what makes this more fuck up is that Kovu isn't even blood-related to Scar. Hell, it's implied that Kovu might not even be blood-related to Zira and was only taken because he looks similar to Scar.
You can see how this has painfully affected him when he claims there's a darkness in himself.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OU_2sqMQayE
Zira is an emotionally abusive mother who grooms her own children to her own means, and ultimately, this led to one of her kids getting killed in that pursuit to please her.
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We dont even know if Nuka, Viti and Kovu came from her or if just Nuka and Viti or none of them at all. For all we know, Zira is a deranged sociopath literally raising child soldiers as her "children". We cant even be sure if she herself even knows truth from fiction after a certain point, mostly because, well, why would she give a shit if it doesnt contribute to her revenge? She does seem to have a loose grasp on reality but she is so intimidating and manipulative she can easily make others buy into her version of reality.

It ironically makes fans not even entirely sure what is true or not with her. We dont know if she was born this way or what kind of relationship her and Scar had and if she became this way after his death or she was always a bit damaged goods. There are many interpretations based on how little we actually know.

Something that is rather interesting to point out is just how both leaders, Zira and Simba, do seem to be demonstrating mental/emotional issues, fittingly both surrounding Scar. Simba clearly is suffering from PTSD and Zira is a whole textbook. Difference is that Simba is able to heal and move on from the "scar" of the past while Zira much prefered to die instead.

Lion King 2 is such a flawed movie and yet when it works, it dare say it works as well as the original.
 
The handsome tard said:
Lion King 2 is such a flawed movie and yet when it works, it dare say it works as well as the original.
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I would say it's flawed in that it's not as good as the first film, and the animation quality is a bit weaker.
However, it's still a pretty good movie that explores the aftermath of Scar's rule and how it affected everyone, even after the Pride Lands recover.
The handsome tard said:
Simba clearly is suffering from PTSD and Zira is a whole textbook. Difference is that Simba is able to heal and move on from the "scar" of the past while Zira much prefered to die instead.
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It absolutely makes sense that Simba turns out that way, not just because Scar killed his father, but Simba used to admire him.
He would listen to him and take any advice Scar would give him, partly because Simba saw him as the cool uncle who would let him do whatever he wanted, regardless of whether it put him in danger. And though Scar never cared about Simba, we can see that from their interactions. He still managed to exploit his nephew's admiration for him and used him in his plans to kill Simba and his own brother.


It makes sense that Simba would become overprotective of his daughter to avoid repeating his mistake, especially after the incident with his own father, to the point that he didn't trust Kiara to hunt on her own, even when she was an adult.

 
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