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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Basic Blonde Boy said:
Movies like Frozen and Zootopia treat the villain as a non-present entity for more societal issues.
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I don't really think that's true for Zootopia. First of all, it's a mystery, so they can't just outright reveal the villain. Second of all, a good bulk of the movie is dedicated to the main characters trying to track down a missing otter, which eventually leads to discovering all the missing mammals (but not the cause behind what made them all turn feral). Third, context is important. Bellwether is deliberately causing unrest against a minority population she distrusts solely because the prey mammals outnumber them significantly. But while context is given to how predators are perceived by some, it's not the main focus until around three quarters of the way through, when the unrest is underway and the mystery still hasn't been solved yet.

Though I find it amusing that, for as much as Tumblr briefly made a big deal about Zootopia, for all the drawings that depicted human Judy as a brown Muslim woman in a hijab and Nick as a white dude, Nick is the real minority in the movie and it by and large went over their heads.
 
make_it_so said:
As someone who really enjoyed this series along with all the other Disney Afternoon cartoons as a kid...that trailer hurt. Now I'm not going to say it raped my childhood or anything stupid like that, but it is a crying shame.

I will say however, that this trailer and how this movie is shaping up represents, to me, everything that is wrong with modern pop culture and entertainment when it comes to rebooting established/nostalgic brands. Nothing is played straight, everything has to be self aware and "ironic." Nothing is made to tell an actual story, instead made solely with the intention of getting soy-faced hipster bugmen with hundreds of Funko Pops to flap their arms and go "I know what that is!!!" as they go on the sperg about it on Reddit and make clickbaity YouTube videos.

The concept behind Rescue Rangers is decent enough that Disney could make an actual movie/series reboot in the modern day that is well written, fun, and appeals to all ages - if they wanted to. But apparently they don't, and instead handed it off to be another reference-infused "comedy." Disney probably already knows that this is cancer, which is why they're dumping it on Disney+ (their modern-era version of Direct To Video) rather than releasing it in theaters or on one of their cable networks.
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I think only reason this hasn't gone to theaters, aside from looking bad, is because I think this movie would have tanked harder than that Raya movie did.
 
ZaireNotTheCongo97 said:
Who The Fuck Remade Roger Rabbit with special guest stars, Chip & Dale! Should be the real title.

Also they're doing just like how Disney did with the DuckTales reboot by giving wrong sounding voices to the nephews.

I don't even know what Disney is anymore to me it all ended when Michael Eisner stepped down back in 2006.

Anybody remember when he used to appear before a televised Disney feature to give a little inside look or trivia on The Wonderful World of Disney on ABC back in the day.

Final thing if this is what Disney has Seth Rogen doing going forward it'll be nothing compared to what he might do to wreck the Darkwing Duck reboot.
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
He’s also behind the new TMNT, so I don’t know who he’s been blowing lately.
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Seriously he's involved with Darkwing Duck and TMNT this is just depressing. The guy comes off as somebody who Jerks to his own ego and according to people who go on his twitter account (I don't because why) he does.
Someone in a Tree said:
In a story that’s Disney adjacent, Brad Bird has signed on to direct Ray Gunn, a film he’s been wanting to make forever, for Skydance Animation, the studio run by Jon Lasseter after he was forced out at Disney. And I’m only speculating here, but I think the reason why the last two Pixar movies have not had John Ratzenberger cameos is because of loyalty to Lasseter, as he has signed on for the first film to be released by Skydance.
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Intresting to hear about John Ratzenberger. Wasn't aware that he wasn't in the last two Pixar movies.
 
Oats12345 said:
Seriously he's involved with Darkwing Duck and TMNT this is just depressing. The guy comes off as somebody who Jerks to his own ego and according to people who go on his twitter account (I don't because why) he does.
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Honestly, I think only reason he even got DD or TMNT is because of Sausage party still being seen as this "super great adult animated movie guyz!"
 
The tired cat said:
Honestly, I think only reason he even got DD or TMNT is because of Sausage party still being seen as this "super great adult animated movie guyz!"
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Seriously that movie was like 5 years ago? And he hasn't made anything like it since.
 
Oats12345 said:
Seriously that movie was like 5 years ago? And he hasn't made anything like it since.
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I mean, he tried to make something like it which was Santa Inc. Problem with that, is that it wasn't a movie but a TV series where you have to suffer through like 6 episodes of annoying and raunchy "comedy" before it reaches any form of an actual "moral" it wanted to say. Instead of...ya know being a simple short like those Christmas specials were.
 
The tired cat said:
I mean, he tried to make something like it which was Santa Inc. Problem with that, is that it wasn't a movie but a TV series where you have to suffer through like 6 episodes of annoying and raunchy "comedy" before it reaches any form of an actual "moral" it wanted to say. Instead of...ya know being a simple short like those Christmas specials were.
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Probably would have worked better as a movie than a show in my opinion.
 
Oats12345 said:
Probably would have worked better as a movie than a show in my opinion.
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Because it would actually work more like a movie or a short. The thing with Seth Rogan I noticed is that he has this project that hits off well and after people start giving him more chances, despite each follow-up being a huge bomb. I remember back when he made something like PineApple Express and this was at the time when people were glad we'd get an action comedy movie, and after that, he'd try all these other projects that would just bomb as they would try to catch the essence of Pineapple Express. Same thing here again, he caught a lightning bolt with Sausage Party and now he's trying to replicate that note again and it tanks again.
 
The tired cat said:
Because it would actually work more like a movie or a short. The thing with Seth Rogan I noticed is that he has this project that hits off well and after people start giving him more chances, despite each follow-up being a huge bomb. I remember back when he made something like PineApple Express and this was at the time when people were glad we'd get an action comedy movie, and after that, he'd try all these other projects that would just bomb as they would try to catch the essence of Pineapple Express. Same thing here again, he caught a lightning bolt with Sausage Party and now he's trying to replicate that note again and it tanks again.
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I remmber when he tried the action route with Green Hornet and it bombed hard in the box office
 
Basic Blonde Boy said:
There is also the growing trend of antagonist-less movies, where the antagonist does not exist or is barely a factor. Movies like Frozen and Zootopia treat the villain as a non-present entity for more societal issues.
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...what societal issues with regard to Frozen? That Elsa isn't "accepted" [because of her powers]? Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.

On another note, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing not having an antagonist in your movie, as long as say your movie is meant more to be fun and games. I mean, look at the first Toy Story movie. Who was the antagonist there? That one kid that abused his toys? If so, he certainly wasn't much of an antagonist, but I don't think that was a problem for that movie compared to say Hans (is that his name?) from Frozen who was not only an awful character in general but a terrible antagonist.
 
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verissimus said:
...what societal issues with regard to Frozen? That Elsa isn't "accepted" [because of her powers]? Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.

On another note, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing not having an antagonist in your movie, as long as say your movie is meant more to be fun and games. I mean, look at the first Toy Story movie. Who was the antagonist there? That one kid that abused his toys? If so, he certainly wasn't much of an antagonist, but I don't think that was a problem for that movie compared to say Hans (is that his name?) from Frozen who simply an awful character in general and more so as an antagonist.
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Sid is something of a minor antagonist, but I'd also count him as an obstacle to overcome. And especially he's the catalyst that brings Buzz and Woody together.
 
A villainless story is not a bad thing.

Its just weird that the place that basically turned "Villains" into a brand no longer has really bad guys.
 
Yeah it is weird that Disney is so reluctant to have full-on villains anymore. Tangled was the last one and I thought she was great.

All the “golden age” villains were considered “gay coded” by SJWs in a positive way, and yet we’ll never again see a Scar or Ursula. Sad times. The villains were the best parts of those flicks.
 
ZaireNotTheCongo97 said:
Imagine how lucky we were back in the 2000s when people didn't need to complain about somebody's skin melanin shade being represented, or chromosomes or gender just if someone could make a fucking brilliant story nowadays they have to fall back on niche demographics in order for them to sell anything anymore due to the fact that there are no more good writers anymore either because everything has been done or due to the high risk of something original failing and putting the studios in the red.

But just looking back at the Beowulf adaptation that happened in the 2000s let's be lucky that we got that even if it sucked ass.
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That's why I think it might be up to independent creators and studios to arise and make new stories with their own original characters. Disney no longer likes to take risks, and their creativity is largely gone and what they have left is a big black hole that sucks up and destroys all of the good old IPs so that nobody else can play in those sandboxes or make money from them.
 
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Airbrushed Van Art said:
Yeah it is weird that Disney is so reluctant to have full-on villains anymore. Tangled was the last one and I thought she was great.

All the “golden age” villains were considered “gay coded” by SJWs in a positive way, and yet we’ll never again see a Scar or Ursula. Sad times. The villains were the best parts of those flicks.
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What about King Candy from Wreck-It Ralph?
 
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