Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Oats12345]

Yeah it is weird that Disney is so reluctant to have full-on villains anymore. Tangled was the last one and I thought she was great.

All the “golden age” villains were considered “gay coded” by SJWs in a positive way, and yet we’ll never again see a Scar or Ursula. Sad times. The villains were the best parts of those flicks.

Wait seriously!!! God I hope SJWs rot in hell

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

What about King Candy from Wreck-It Ralph?

With King Candy the twist wasn't he was the villian because he always was since his introduction. The twist was that he was Turbo.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

With King Candy the twist wasn't he was the villian because he always was since his introduction. The twist was that he was Turbo.

He was still the full-on villain, though. Also was the last Disney villain to actually die.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

Wait seriously!!! God I hope SJWs rot in hell

I mean, they aren’t wrong. Ursula was based on a drag queen and Scar was obviously given gay characteristics. The villain from Pocahontas was another villain that was fruity as hell.

Gay-coding was a thing, even if it is cringe to say. The community was the taboo of society for the longest time, the other…
Many villain clearly took on characteristics of the community given that they were flamboyant, colorful, and were in opposition to the status quo. Many Disney villains were very clearly taking on these characteristics back in the day as to make them stand out more. Hell, even other famous villains from non-Disney properties have been argued. The Joker is one of the largest examples, and is a figure that audiences and writers seem to debate on. Joker has tons of the LGBT community’s characteristics and opposition to grander society. I mean, he is a flamboyant clown man that has been progressing to be more and more almost romantically obsessed with Batman.

Personally, I don’t think it is wrong to see coding in these characters, as there likely is. I more have a problem with how people try to cancel a lot of properties over it, especially ones like Batman where even if Joker is a bad guy, Batman does go to great lengths to see the good in him and try to help him. Him and others are usually not just fully bad.

 

[Uranus Pink]

It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic, the company that pioneered and made 2d animation an art form can't even manage to gather the talent to do hand drawn animation anymore.

Walt Disney didn't pioneer shit as animation was being pioneered back in 1888 in Europe mainly French animators.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Walt Disney didn't pioneer shit as animation was being pioneered back in 1888 in Europe mainly French animators.

Even in America, Winsor McCay was arguably the pioneer of animation. Walt himself reportedly admitted as such:

During production of the 1955 Disneyland television show, Winsor McCay’s son, Robert, came to the Studios to act as a consultant for the program. As John Canemaker would report, Walt, greeting Robert McCay in his office, “gestured out the window toward his bustling studio complex and said, ‘Bob, all this should be your father’s.’”

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

It wouldn't have been, really, because Winsor McCay hated how animation became commercialized. At a dinner given in his honor in 1927 he gave a speech where he said:

“Animation is an art. That is how I conceived it. But as I see, what you fellows have done with it, is making it into a trade. Not an art, but a trade. Bad luck!”

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Potential Chip 'n' Dale leaks.

Fake and gay or what, anything goes at this point.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Potential Chip 'n' Dale leaks.
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Fake and gay or what, anything goes at this point.

Re: Rescue Rangers abortion, here is my bet: Gadget's going to be the missing one, it'll be a ripoff of the Napster episode of Futurama where celebrities were kidnapped to create virtual duplicates, toss in a reference to the Gadget "cult" from like ten years ago, topped off with a nice "teehee you silly boys, you didn't need to rescue a strong independent wo-mouse like me" before a giant computer monster appears and the power of team work defeats it. This is all miraculously livestreamed by Token Human Friend, which reignites their popularity and they get a new show about their ~real adventures~ and live happily ever after.

Where's my fucking money, Disney?

+1 in calling for @fenny's paycheck, because it's literally their post, word for word. Holy fucking SHIT, it's sad that Disney's become so goddamn predictable that a random Joe can guess how the plot goes exactly from the second the trailer drops.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

The new Chip n’ Dale is depressing given that it is a pseudo-sequel to Roger Rabbit. At least, I am assuming given that they went out of their way to acquire the MLP IP. The sad part is, a sequel to Roger Rabbit, or another film in its vain, could be super interesting.

Roger Rabbit came out in 1988, so much in animation has happened in the decades since that movie. If Disney committed to a celebration of animation and properly funded/ got IPs, holy shit, we might have a really cool film.

Imagine Roger having to walk into the animation mad houses created since his time. I can easily see him stumbling into a Nickelodeon studio or a Cartoon Network and having to take in how many more different faces have joined toon town since his last adventure. I would love to see new icons like SpongeBob taking up the background. You could even do the CGI stuff by bringing in Despicable Me. Hell, why not make a section where Roger has to go to the ‘adult section’ filled with characters such as Homer, Peter Griffin, Eric Cartman, Rick Sanchez, etc.. It would be cool to see a film where they acknowledge how far animation has come and changed since that time.

Now the big joke that they have to do is having mr. fuck-you-Disney himself finally appear. They would really have to build up a reveal to Shrek being in the film. Just seeing Shrek in a Disney film would be fucking hilarious and has so much potential. Have all the Disney characters just resent the fucker for everything he stands for.

Really, just having modern properties clash with old would be super interesting and makes me wish we got a better end product.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Problem is, if you want to do a Roger Rabbit sequel proper you have to get Spielberg on board with the proposal, and that's why there hasn't been much Roger Rabbit stuff since 1993 or so.

Of course, he's going to have a cameo in this, but I assume it's easier to sign off on a cameo.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

Problem is, if you want to do a Roger Rabbit sequel proper you have to get Spielberg on board with the proposal, and that's why there hasn't been much Roger Rabbit stuff since 1993 or so.

Of course, he's going to have a cameo in this, but I assume it's easier to sign off on a cameo.

Spielberg has been really close to Disney recently, so I doubt getting him on board would be much of an issue. I think the much bigger problem would just be licensing. Roger Rabbit had an impressive amount already, but many of its stars came from smaller companies with the major one just being Warner, granted Warner now owns most of the cameo characters. Nowadays, the rights to get cameos is probably expensive as shit depending on how far they go. Warner, Universal, and Viacom are the top dogs that Disney will have to contend with, not to mention whatever other smaller to mid range studio is around.

In the original Roger Rabbit, most of the famous toons came from Warner or Disney. Other than the occasional Betty Boop, I doubt many of the icons not tied to Warner costed that much. Nowadays, going for the main big animation icons since the 1990s probably costs a decent fee that will add up. SpongeBob, Shrek, Despicable Me, Batman TAS, Adventure Time, The Powerpuff Girls, Avatar The Last Airbender, Scooby doo, Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda, Ben 10, Total Drama, South Park, Rick & Morty, TMNT, The Loud House, Rugrats, Teen Titans, Fairly Odd Parents etc. are all mega franchises that would likely be expected to be there and they are all worth a small fortune in their own right, and that is not getting into anime if they want to go past western animation. In a way, this is prime time to attempt a sequel, but also, it may be far too costly given that animation is a franchised industry.

 

[The tired cat]

Problem is, if you want to do a Roger Rabbit sequel proper you have to get Spielberg on board with the proposal, and that's why there hasn't been much Roger Rabbit stuff since 1993 or so.

Of course, he's going to have a cameo in this, but I assume it's easier to sign off on a cameo.

Funny thing, there was gonna be a Roger Rabbit prequil where he joins the army, meets Jessica and fights Nazis, but Spielberg scrapped it as he didnt like the idea of Nazis being shown in a mo cartoony manner.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Spielberg has been really close to Disney recently, so I doubt getting him on board would be much of an issue. I think the much bigger problem would just be licensing. Roger Rabbit had an impressive amount already, but many of its stars came from smaller companies with the major one just being Warner, granted Warner now owns most of the cameo characters. Nowadays, the rights to get cameos is probably expensive as shit depending on how far they go. Warner, Universal, and Viacom are the top dogs that Disney will have to contend with, not to mention whatever other smaller to mid range studio is around.

In the original Roger Rabbit, most of the famous toons came from Warner or Disney. Other than the occasional Betty Boop, I doubt many of the icons not tied to Warner costed that much. Nowadays, going for the main big animation icons since the 1990s probably costs a decent fee that will add up. SpongeBob, Shrek, Despicable Me, Batman TAS, Adventure Time, The Powerpuff Girls, Avatar The Last Airbender, Scooby doo, Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda, Ben 10, Total Drama, South Park, Rick & Morty, TMNT, The Loud House, Rugrats, Teen Titans, Fairly Odd Parents etc. are all mega franchises that would likely be expected to be there and they are all worth a small fortune in their own right, and that is not getting into anime if they want to go past western animation. In a way, this is prime time to attempt a sequel, but also, it may be far too costly given that animation is a franchised industry.

They got all the major stars except for Popeye, but the thing is, Spielberg in 1988 had the pull to convince all the studios to put them in the movie - and he probably wouldn't have convinced Disney if they weren't making it.

Nowadays, I doubt he has that kind of pull.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

They got all the major stars except for Popeye, but the thing is, Spielberg in 1988 had the pull to convince all the studios to put them in the movie - and he probably wouldn't have convinced Disney if they weren't making it.

Nowadays, I doubt he has that kind of pull.

Having all major stars? I guess it depends on era? Roger Rabbit came out in 1988 and lacked anything from Hannah-Barbara. I would say the omission of Scooby Doo, The Flintstones, Yogi, and others is pretty noticeable. There are tons of big names left on the cutting room floor, including Superman. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cameos_in_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit

Spielberg is running on fumes currently, he is no longer the Sakurai of Hollywood, so he wouldn't be able to pull this kind of stuff nowadays. At best, I can see WB playing ball for a sequel since they never seem to really give a fuck, but other ones, especially Viacom, are going to be monsters.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Having all major stars? I guess it depends on era? Roger Rabbit came out in 1988 and lacked anything from Hannah-Barbara. I would say the omission of Scooby Doo, The Flintstones, Yogi, and others is pretty noticeable. There are tons of big names left on the cutting room floor, including Superman. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_cameos_in_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit

Spielberg is running on fumes currently, he is no longer the Sakurai of Hollywood, so he wouldn't be able to pull this kind of stuff nowadays. At best, I can see WB playing ball for a sequel since they never seem to really give a fuck, but other ones, especially Viacom, are going to be monsters.

The film takes place in 1947. They hadn't been created yet.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

The film takes place in 1947. They hadn't been created yet.

Then they got them all besides Popeye and Superman.

I am going to call bullshit though, regardless of what the director’s say as many of the toons in the film came from the 50s up til the 70s (Jungle Book, Mary Poppins, Aristocats). Hell, even the planned, but cut, cameos had Yogi and the Pink Panther listed which were within that range.

I am guessing that they did not care about time period initially, since the original book was set in the present day, but would add it later on as cameos got solidified. That or cameos are not beholden to it, especially ones from Disney.

 

[cactus]

Spielberg has been really close to Disney recently, so I doubt getting him on board would be much of an issue. I think the much bigger problem would just be licensing. Roger Rabbit had an impressive amount already, but many of its stars came from smaller companies with the major one just being Warner, granted Warner now owns most of the cameo characters. Nowadays, the rights to get cameos is probably expensive as shit depending on how far they go. Warner, Universal, and Viacom are the top dogs that Disney will have to contend with, not to mention whatever other smaller to mid range studio is around.

In the original Roger Rabbit, most of the famous toons came from Warner or Disney. Other than the occasional Betty Boop, I doubt many of the icons not tied to Warner costed that much. Nowadays, going for the main big animation icons since the 1990s probably costs a decent fee that will add up. SpongeBob, Shrek, Despicable Me, Batman TAS, Adventure Time, The Powerpuff Girls, Avatar The Last Airbender, Scooby doo, Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda, Ben 10, Total Drama, South Park, Rick & Morty, TMNT, The Loud House, Rugrats, Teen Titans, Fairly Odd Parents etc. are all mega franchises that would likely be expected to be there and they are all worth a small fortune in their own right, and that is not getting into anime if they want to go past western animation. In a way, this is prime time to attempt a sequel, but also, it may be far too costly given that animation is a franchised industry.

Disney wants to pinch pennies right now, so a sequel to Roger Rabbit probably won't be happening any time soon. Iger blew too much money on Marvel and Fox (at least they wouldn't have to pay for Simpsons, Family Guy, or any Marvel characters not under Sony). And knowing how Disney is in another slump, I wouldn't have any faith in the movie being good.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Disney posted some new stills of that Pixar Red Panda movie coming out.

Gotta say, it ain’t selling me on the animation.

 

[Pickle Dick]

Disney posted some new stills of that Pixar Red Panda movie coming out.
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Gotta say, it ain’t selling me on the animation.

'member when Pixar generally made their human characters look like decent caricatures* and not this generic, blobby, grubhub version of human beings?

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Wtf happened? CGI Animation is dead lol.