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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
Got around to watching Encanto and liked it a lot. Lin Manuel Miranda's songs are always either really good or completely forgettable imo, and the only memorable song to me was We Don't Talk About Bruno. But the animation was top notch and the story got to me. I'm not hispanic but reconciling with your family after generations of dysfunctional relationships is something that plenty of people can relate to (and get choked up like a bitch over during certain scenes).
 
Also Kingdom Hearts is pretty telling of how much they care. Every animated 2010 Disney film up till 2014’s Big Hero 6 got a world, except Ralph. Even Winnie the Pooh was there. How the fuck did they leave out the video game movie in this video game?
Ralph did show up as a summon in KH3, but I went through the entirety of the game without using summons so I forgot he was there at all.

It is pretty lame though since they easily could have done something similar to how they handled Tron in KH2.
That's because Wreck-It Ralph was saved for the now-defunct Union X game, it was actually one of my favorite worlds despite being confined to a mobile game and never actually reaching it in said game myself.
 
Kek.
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On one hand, this sets an unsettling precedent that Disney/Pixar fucking hates original IPs and their own animators for not letting them have the theatrical releases they so desired and worked hard for to get their names out there more. They have no faith in themselves anymore and for what they once stood for because they're afraid of losing money. Luca didn't deserve to be treated like this, and even though I was never going to see Turning Red anyway because it just looks so uggo, it doesn't deserve to be treated like crap either.

But on the other hand, fucking kek they're hurting.

EDIT: Also lol this marks like the second female director to be screwed over at Pixar. Not a good look in the shadows of #MeTooing John Lasseter. :story:
 
Couple days late, but this was in response to Disney pulling Turning Red from theaters. Take it with a grain of salt, though, but wouldn't be surprised by this. Who was the one to say Bob Chapek was gonna be the fall guy, 'cause I think you're on to something.
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Couple days late, but this was in response to Disney pulling Turning Red from theaters. Take it with a grain of salt, though, but wouldn't be surprised by this. Who was the one to say Bob Chapek was gonna be the fall guy, 'cause I think you're on to something.
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If this were the Pixar that made quality movies like Up, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, Wall-E, etc., I might've given a shit. But it's not, so HA. Looks like that deal with Disney turned out to be a deal with the devil, but it's too late now. John Lasseter is probably laughing hysterically somewhere. Stop making your movies woke shit, Pixar, and maybe I'll care. Until then, take it away Joker:
 
I finally watched Raya, wow that’s a boring fucking movie. The main character seemed like a charisma black hole, and the supporting characters were meh. None of the villains ever repented or were punished or anything, just a “yay we friends now”. I figured the bitch queen would at least get knocked off or something, hubris blah blah blah, but nope. Bleh. And the person who did the dragon’s voice was grating as hell.
 
I finally watched Raya, wow that’s a boring fucking movie. The main character seemed like a charisma black hole, and the supporting characters were meh. None of the villains ever repented or were punished or anything, just a “yay we friends now”. I figured the bitch queen would at least get knocked off or something, hubris blah blah blah, but nope. Bleh. And the person who did the dragon’s voice was grating as hell.
A shame this is the shitty road they want to go down.
 
I watched Encanto and it was pretty good! I don’t like how there’s pop hooks in the songs but the characters were pretty charming and I loved Mirabel as a main character. I like that it wasn’t about finding a bf/prince but instead about finding one’s place in the world and I wish that there could have been at least a little explanation about her role as caretaker to Casita. Either way, I was pretty satisfied with it when I went in with low expectations.
 
I watched Encanto and it was pretty good! I don’t like how there’s pop hooks in the songs but the characters were pretty charming and I loved Mirabel as a main character. I like that it wasn’t about finding a bf/prince but instead about finding one’s place in the world and I wish that there could have been at least a little explanation about her role as caretaker to Casita. Either way, I was pretty satisfied with it when I went in with low expectations.
Oh, you mean like every other Disney movie as of late? This is what really weirds me out about Encanto - never have I seen a modern Disney movie get such polarizing reception here on the Farms. Some people thought it was good, some people think it's the same old reheated modern shit Disney's been putting out for a while now, just Hispanic (you can put me in the latter camp). For those who thought it was good, answer me this: what does Encanto do different that no other Disney film has done before, but better?

"THE MaiN FoCus Is on FAMILy!"
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^Did it already, and better.

"iT tEAches YOu ABout FInDinG youR pLaCE IN tHE worlD!"
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^Did it already, and better.

"hISPANIc DiVeRsitY!"
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This movie was literally created as a gesture of goodwill towards South America.

One more note just to show you how modern Disney actually hates creativity:
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^This is the main character of Encanto, Mirabel, as shown through concept art. Look at the expressiveness on her face. Look at how she looks authentically Hispanic, but also cartoony. Wouldn't you rather watch a movie that looked like this? What did the creatively bankrupt Rat give us instead?
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Elsa/Anna Face, but Hispanic. This is the unabashed laziness of a studio that gained enough market control to make money without even trying, and therefore immediately stopped trying. In other words, "We're not going to try anything different, because FUCK YOU, you'll pay to see it anyways."
 
Elsa/Anna Face, but Hispanic.
It's Rapunzel. They use Rapunzel's model as a base for all their main female characters now. And I don't think it's fair to compare the model to the concept art because it's not supposed to be animated looking until you start animating it, it's literally there to show how the model looks when lighted and colored.
 
It's Rapunzel. They use Rapunzel's model as a base for all their main female characters now. And I don't think it's fair to compare the model to the concept art because it's not supposed to be animated looking until you start animating it, it's literally there to show how the model looks when lighted and colored.
Mmmm. Fair enough. Let's take a look at some finished shots from the movie.
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Nope. Concept art is still better. Call me a boomer or old-fashioned, but there's a certain.....plasticity that impacts even some of the best CG Disney movies (Tangled, Moana). It's like they stretched skin over an animatronic that's just a bit too human-like. Pixar doesn't have that problem - most of the time (Toy Story humans, I'm looking squarely at you) - because they either don't have human characters in their movies, or they look cartoony enough to escape the Uncanny Valley. Zootopia and Wreck-it Ralph have the same benefit.
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I think it's because Pixar have been CG their whole existence, whereas Disney was originally 2D before hopping on the CGI "gravy train". What works well in 2D -
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- doesn't necessarily translate well into 3D.
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I dunno, maybe I'm just being a whiny autistic bitch about this, but still, it bugs me.
 
The Toy Story humans at least were done in 1995.

In 2, they still look kinda wonky, and that was in 2000:
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But, TBF, by 3, they had completely ironed out the kinks:
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I tend to cut most of the few decades or so of CGI some slack not just because of the technological advances we've made since then, but also because people don't really know what works and what doesn't until they try it out. True, there's stuff like Rapsittie Street Kids that looked like shit then and look even worse today, but it took quite a while to figure out how to do certain things on computers. Also, a lot of people thought that people wanted CG to be photorealistic in order to blow 2D and even stop motion out of the water. It took a surprisingly long time for them to figure out, "Wait, these CG human puppets look creepy AF," and move to more stylized designs, which ended up working a lot better with the technology of the time. Too bad Robert Zemeckis didn't get the memo...
 
I tend to cut most of the few decades or so of CGI some slack not just because of the technological advances we've made since then, but also because people don't really know what works and what doesn't until they try it out. True, there's stuff like Rapsittie Street Kids that looked like shit then and look even worse today, but it took quite a while to figure out how to do certain things on computers. Also, a lot of people thought that people wanted CG to be photorealistic in order to blow 2D and even stop motion out of the water. It took a surprisingly long time for them to figure out, "Wait, these CG human puppets look creepy AF," and move to more stylized designs, which ended up working a lot better with the technology of the time. Too bad Robert Zemeckis didn't get the memo...
Fair enough, but then how do you explain shit like Foodfight?
 
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