Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[4ZURE]

You all are just mad that Sneakerella truly captures the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

For some more hilarity with this upcoming Disney motion picture.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ceknr09dlrQ

lol @ "Chow Yun Very Fat." JLongbone is a treasure.

Maybe a caricature of Tim Taylor from Home Improvement, if I had to venture a guess, but Mike Baxter is like if Hank Hill was more loud-mouthed and sold hunting gear instead of propane and propane accessories (though I think even Mike loves propane). He's the "last man standing" because even his boss has found himself wrapped in the arms of the glomohomo at times, though his boss is a pretty cool old guy himself. Think the only other man who's equal to Mike is Chuck Larabee, who's black.

I just think it's hilariously ironic how much the liberal media spouts "muh equality" only to hate the show's guts when it poked fun of both sides while still showing that people with clashing ideologies can still totally get along with each other, even married couples. ABC pulling the plug on it in 2017 was a retarded decision on their part and that they pretended it wasn't politically motivated on their part was them showing their true selves to the normies at long last. Least the show managed to get itself to a series finale, although I won't lie, I think quality suffered a bit when Fox picked it back up.

I feel like LMS was just the Home Improvement revival they decided not to do because Wilson was dead. He's basically Tim Taylor, with a feisty wife and three daughters instead of sons, and (not) Pros Bass Shops and YouTube videos instead of Tool Time. Even the Denver setting mimics Detroit.

The show might have suffered moving to Fox, but the replacement Mandy was a babe.

 

[Nero You're DeadWeight]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=imaaYfy4oM0What the fuck is this shit?

Call me crazy, but doesn't the whole part of the story where the prince has no idea who Cinderella is falls apart here cause Sneaker princess girl is like "hey your the guy I know you" meaning that WHOLE IMPORTANT PART OF THE BOOK it null and void?

Can't wait for the shitty sneaker tie in disney is gonna make most likely with this movie.

 

[ZMOT]

I feel like LMS was just the Home Improvement revival they decided not to do because Wilson was dead. He's basically Tim Taylor, with a feisty wife and three daughters instead of sons, and (not) Pros Bass Shops and YouTube videos instead of Tool Time. Even the Denver setting mimics Detroit.

that's just the semi-default sitcom format going back decades, down to the character archetypes. LMS was still a bit different than tool time (which was a bit more family friendly), tim taylor's schtick was being kinda clueless, in LMS he was more angry and annoyed (which was more fun imho). still stopped watching it at some point, can't remember why.

 

[Uranus Pink]

For Home Improvement it is almost a requisite to watched Tim Allen's Men are Pigs comedy sketch. Which is where the impetus for Home Improvement came from.

Home Improvement really was made in an entirely different era as things were getting better in the United States. LMS in and out of universe is in the era where things are getting worse and there's little the main male character could do about it.

 

[StarDreamer2002]

What's so sad about the fandom?

Also Chicken Little wasn't that bad.

 

[UnKillFill]

Sneakerella? Wow, black people names are getting lazier.

 

[neverendingmidi]

Sneakerella? Wow, black people names are getting lazier.

You joke, but I will bet $50 that if it hasn't been done, it will be.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Man, having been looking back at the five movies made during the Golden Age Of Disney (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi), I can't help but realize just how much darker and more mature the films used to be. Like, all five are pretty much masterpieces (with the last one being an all time favorite of mine), and they all easily outclass anything the company has put out in recent years.

Makes me wonder where all the magic went.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Three of the films were flops and Dumbo was only a success because it was so cheap... so there's your answer.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Three of the films were flops and Dumbo was only a success because it was so cheap... so there's your answer.

That's the interesting thing about them as well.

Those three films, while being considered some of the greatest works of animation and film in general nowadays, weren't exactly big money makers for the studio. Pinocchio was seen as too episodic and wasn't well received in foreign markets, Fantasia was seen to be a disservice to many of the classical pieces of music featured and too experimental, and Bambi had the misfortune of being released during the height of WWII and being viewed as too realistic and not magical enough. Only in later years were they finally seen as classics and got the respect and financial success that they deserved.

Shame it took so long, and an even bigger shame that Disney doesn't really see them as anything other than potential grounds for live-action remakes, forgetting the subtleties that made them such wonderful films.

 

[ZMOT]

Man, having been looking back at the five movies made during the Golden Age Of Disney (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi), I can't help but realize just how much darker and more mature the films used to be. Like, all five are pretty much masterpieces (with the last one being an all time favorite of mine), and they all easily outclass anything the company has put out in recent years.

Makes me wonder where all the magic went.

don't forget they tried again in the 00's with atlantis and lost planet, but people didn't like it (lost planet was a bomb but still one of my favorite disney movies). then followed by going back and making movies most people don't even remember till princess & the frog and tangled. they mostly got carried by pixar which made some of it's best movies during that time.

so in hindsight they just had very high highs with ok-ish lows, but the whole thing has shifted down hard.

also just noticed finding nemo came out 18 years ago, fucking hell where has the time gone

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Pinocchio was seen as too episodic and wasn't well received in foreign markets,

That's because the war had cut off most of the foreign markets.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Also Chicken Little wasn't that bad.

That, I actually kinda agree with you on. It's certainly not good but it isn't the outright travesty many people make it out to be either. It's just okay. Also Buck isn't that bad of a father. He actually lets CL try out for the baseball team, even though he knows he most likely is gonna get crushed, and he actually helps CL get the little orange alien baby back to his parents. He tries, is the important thing.

don't forget they tried again in the 00's with atlantis and lost planet, but people didn't like it (lost planet was a bomb but still one of my favorite disney movies). then followed by going back and making movies most people don't even remember till princess & the frog and tangled. they mostly got carried by pixar which made some of it's best movies during that time.

so in hindsight they just had very high highs with ok-ish lows, but the whole thing has shifted down hard.

also just noticed finding nemo came out 18 years ago, fucking hell where has the time gone

Treasure Planet, not Lost Planet. Also, don't forget that John Lasseter sabotaged Chris Sanders during the production of American Dog (later Bolt), which will forever remain one of the saddest what-ifs of animation history. What if Chris got to make American Dog the way he wanted it, without Lasseter interfering? Maybe it would've been bad, maybe it would've been another Lilo & Stitch-tier masterpiece. We'll never know, because Lasseter was a control freak (for the worse this time).

Also, Encanto came out recently. Alternate Ending gave its verdict, and it's not good:

It is very, very hard not to feel like this is a factory-produced object, given a veneer of unique identity through music, color, and arguably setting (although "drop generic characters into a culture we haven't set a movie in before" is itself becoming part of the Disney formula at this point). But it's not much of a veneer. I don't know how much of it is that great big 60 that opens the film, and how much is that there's just not any story there to distract me, but I can't help but feel like Encanto perfectly typifies the limits of DIsney's take on 3-D animation. At the very least - and the empty husk of its story is certainly part of this - it typifies the unabashed laziness of a studio that gained enough market control to make money without even trying, and therefore immediately stopped trying.

^Honestly couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[4ZURE]

Also, Encanto came out recently. Alternate Ending gave its verdict, and it's not good:

Meanwhile, it would appear that nobody left at the studio remembers literally anything about story structure: in the last decade, only 2014's Big Hero 6 and 2016's Moanacould be genuinely described as having "good bones", and in the case of the former, it got them by sticking 100% to the superhero movie formula that had gotten locked into place by that point.

I guess get fucked Wreck-It-Ralph, apparently your story structure was not good enough for Alternate Endings.

Sorry, Ralph was a Disney movie I genuinely hold in pretty high regard, so it is always sad to see it either get left out or shit on by Disney and its fans when it was a pretty cool and unique Disney film.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I think we're at a junction in history where people want something new and different from the culture, but they don't know what it is yet.

Everyone thinks everything seems to suck now. What's going to come next?

 

[4ZURE]

I think we're at a junction in history where people want something new and different from the culture, but they don't know what it is yet.

Everyone thinks everything seems to suck now. What's going to come next?

I have a few ideas. I think 2000s nostalgia is the obvious next step that is already starting to show. Hell, 90s and early 2010s are also part of the mix. This is pretty clear from networks like Nickelodeon really jumping hard on bringing back icons from the 90s-2000s era such as Invader Zim, Rugrats, Thornberries, Danny Phantom, Avatar The Last Airbender/Korra and so on. CN shows 2010s nostalgia given the pushes for Gumball and Adventure Time, along with Steven.

Honestly, I have a feeling culture is going to fall into two camps, being either early 2010s hopeful, kind of rebirth style content that is more on the colorful side, or hard 2000s cynicism to break down everything (and not in a woke way) in retaliation for the last 20 years. More than likely, there will be quite a bit of both.

 

[Very Clever Nickname]

Man, having been looking back at the five movies made during the Golden Age Of Disney (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi), I can't help but realize just how much darker and more mature the films used to be. Like, all five are pretty much masterpieces (with the last one being an all time favorite of mine), and they all easily outclass anything the company has put out in recent years.

Makes me wonder where all the magic went.

There is something about the classic Disney films. I'm a sucker for the ones that start with singing and the storybook appearing. Childhood memories.

 

[LightDragonman1]

There is something about the classic Disney films. I'm a sucker for the ones that start with singing and the storybook appearing. Childhood memories.

The fact that all five turned out to be masterpieces is really something. Even if it did take a while for some to finally get the success they deserved.

And again, much like during The Golden Age Of Comic Books, those first five Disney films were much darker and more mature than one might think, even more than many animated films being released today. It's one reason why they all still hold up strong.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Man, having been looking back at the five movies made during the Golden Age Of Disney (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi), I can't help but realize just how much darker and more mature the films used to be. Like, all five are pretty much masterpieces (with the last one being an all time favorite of mine), and they all easily outclass anything the company has put out in recent years.

Makes me wonder where all the magic went.

It’s unrealistic to expect that kinda magic to survive in a company over the course of 80+ years. In all honesty, Disney has done better than most companies with long histories of trying to preserve that kind of “magic” while also refreshing itself for modern times. Definitely not saying they are flawless or that I even like the direction they are going in. The way they approach franchises in particular has a stale cookie cutter effect.