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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%

  • Total voters
    1,578
With how disney uses shit as an excuse to replace rides with "better" (shittier) ones that are just a fuckload of tv screens on the walls, the conspiracy theorist inside me says this shit was an inside job. Mark my words they're gonna tamper with small world in cali and then make a big announcement about how they "saved" it. Shitty cgi dancers on screens instead of shitty but novel animatronic dancers.
Such a shame too, given the work those imagineers have put into that ride almost 60 years ago.

Looks like it has potential to be a funny family movie but I fucking HATE how pixar's art direction went from being inspired by 50s shit to "high budget grubhub ad" these past few years. Thankfully the animation is still more competent than grubhub tier shit but the aesthetics are sadly gonna be tainted for a long time it seems.
From boomer to millennial fanaticism, you could say.
 
From boomer to millennial fanaticism, you could say.
More like from "modernized style based on old thing" to "Generic corporate 3d art but polished just enough to be somewhat ok"

It's like how a bunch of corporatized shit ends up badly aping off fortnite or rick and morty, but instead of badly aping off something people like while not understanding why they like it, but inverted. This is some kinda bizzaro world situation where something that people like the artstyle of suddenly decides to ape off shit nobody likes and improve it just enough to be somewhat tolerable. This movie and Luca may be the start, but they won't be the end. If things "evolve" like this again there's a chance they might just mutate into a worse illumination in terms of aesthetics. Illumination being a company that blatantly somewhat has a similar style to what pixar had going but slightly lesser quality and infinitely more stinkers of cash grab films.
 
With how disney uses shit as an excuse to replace rides with "better" (shittier) ones that are just a fuckload of tv screens on the walls, the conspiracy theorist inside me says this shit was an inside job. Mark my words they're gonna tamper with small world in cali and then make a big announcement about how they "saved" it. Shitty cgi dancers on screens instead of shitty but novel animatronic dancers.
As a big theme park fan the trend of TV screens is a fucking abomination.

Looks like it has potential to be a funny family movie but I fucking HATE how pixar's art direction went from being inspired by 50s shit to "high budget grubhub ad" these past few years. Thankfully the animation is still more competent than grubhub tier shit but the aesthetics are sadly gonna be tainted for a long time it seems.
I don't like their current art style either, I noticed how the humans in Toy Story 4 looked different than humans looked in the other movies, which stuck out as really odd (and is more proof why 4 is not canon)

Essentially Pixar's old modus operandi was bringing back the spirit of media from the 50s, if you want to look deeper into it all it's no wonder that they've changed that and kicked John Lassiter out because "50s" can now translate to "too white"

I think a lot about the fact that you still had some small remnants of "the old days" in 90s and 2000s culture, all those movies that were 30s-50s period pieces from back then that always took a respectful view of the past.

Now it seems like there's an effort to scrub out every last shred of the past.


This is why Disney World is superior
I used to hear people say Land was superior because the employees "cared more"
 
I don't like their current art style either, I noticed how the humans in Toy Story 4 looked different than humans looked in the other movies, which stuck out as really odd (and is more proof why 4 is not canon)

I still haven't watched toy story 4 as I know it's end is literally an ad for the disney plus show that never fucking came out, but from the scenes I have seen I noticed some small things that bugged the shit out of me. That being one of them, but another being the fact Buzz's green isn't fucking glowing when he's in dim light. Sure, barely any of the toy story merch actually incorporates Buzz's glow feature, but in the movies it's kind of a big part of his whole character design. His green looks weirdly like the deep merch green than the actual movies' pale bright green.

Essentially Pixar's old modus operandi was bringing back the spirit of media from the 50s, if you want to look deeper into it all it's no wonder that they've changed that and kicked John Lassiter out because "50s" can now translate to "too white"

I think a lot about the fact that you still had some small remnants of "the old days" in 90s and 2000s culture, all those movies that were 30s-50s period pieces from back then that always took a respectful view of the past.

Now it seems like there's an effort to scrub out every last shred of the past.
"Onward" is like the last one I can think of that had the old pixar style with the fucking blue linguini looking motherfucker as the protagonist but even that had echoes of what was to come in it.

"Lightyear" looks a bit more like a weird grime-ified version of pixar's old style mixed with generic scifi stuff. Design elements of the character are changed for reasons that do not make much sense. Why is the jetpack button now a latch instead of a button? Why does Buzz not have a Laser? Why do the zurgbots have legs now and look like yellow hulkbusters instead of art deco space aliens? These are questions that will probably not have actual answers, but the removal of Tim Allen as the voice of Buzz is absolutely 100% more than likely a politics thing.

As a big theme park fan the trend of TV screens is a fucking abomination.
I'm still pissed about what happened to Maelstrom. They took a short, cool, and exciting ambient ride and "reinvigorated it" by slowing the speed to a crawl, replacing the genuinely detailed animatronics with ones that had projected faces, and made it a slog through TV screens showing the fucking "let it go" sequence from FROZEN.

I know this one's out of order but I missed replying somehow the first go around.
 
I still haven't watched toy story 4 as I know it's end is literally an ad for the disney plus show that never fucking came out, but from the scenes I have seen I noticed some small things that bugged the shit out of me. That being one of them, but another being the fact Buzz's green isn't fucking glowing when he's in dim light. Sure, barely any of the toy story merch actually incorporates Buzz's glow feature, but in the movies it's kind of a big part of his whole character design. His green looks weirdly like the deep merch green than the actual movies' pale bright green.


"Onward" is like the last one I can think of that had the old pixar style with the fucking blue linguini looking motherfucker as the protagonist but even that had echoes of what was to come in it.

"Lightyear" looks a bit more like a weird grime-ified version of pixar's old style mixed with generic scifi stuff. Design elements of the character are changed for reasons that do not make much sense. Why is the jetpack button now a latch instead of a button? Why does Buzz not have a Laser? Why do the zurgbots have legs now and look like yellow hulkbusters instead of art deco space aliens? These are questions that will probably not have actual answers, but the removal of Tim Allen as the voice of Buzz is absolutely 100% more than likely a politics thing.


I'm still pissed about what happened to Maelstrom. They took a short, cool, and exciting ambient ride and "reinvigorated it" by slowing the speed to a crawl, replacing the genuinely detailed animatronics with ones that had projected faces, and made it a slog through TV screens showing the fucking "let it go" sequence from FROZEN.

I know this one's out of order but I missed replying somehow the first go around.
Oh I defently agree with you on Tim Allen being replace as Buzz Lightyear because of politics. I'm post to belive it's just happens to be the actor who is a known Republican who hasn't completely been blacklisted in Hollywood yet suddenly loses his most well known role to a good follower soyboy?
 
Oh I defently agree with you on Tim Allen being replace as Buzz Lightyear because of politics. I'm post to belive it's just happens to be the actor who is a known Republican who hasn't completely been blacklisted in Hollywood yet suddenly loses his most well known role to a good follower soyboy?
I still remember the shitstorm that happened with ABC cancelled Last Man Standing despite it still doing fairly well in the ratings. The exec who pulled the plug, a certain Channing Dungey (I think), tried to pass it off as not politically motivated, but nobody fell for it, so she brought back Roseanne to try and shut them up, saying "You want a right-wing voice!? HERE!" Of course, we all know how that turned out...
 
So the whole Last Man Standing character he did wasn't just a caricature? I don't know, I haven't watched a lot of that show, but I do recall the show trying to put him in the wrong despite him having some pretty good points. Like how he joked about how only those who owned their own properties should be allowed to vote and the wife goes "YOU MEAN WHITE MEN!?"

Happened to see that episode during the 2020 election too.
 
So the whole Last Man Standing character he did wasn't just a caricature?
Maybe a caricature of Tim Taylor from Home Improvement, if I had to venture a guess, but Mike Baxter is like if Hank Hill was more loud-mouthed and sold hunting gear instead of propane and propane accessories (though I think even Mike loves propane). He's the "last man standing" because even his boss has found himself wrapped in the arms of the glomohomo at times, though his boss is a pretty cool old guy himself. Think the only other man who's equal to Mike is Chuck Larabee, who's black.

I just think it's hilariously ironic how much the liberal media spouts "muh equality" only to hate the show's guts when it poked fun of both sides while still showing that people with clashing ideologies can still totally get along with each other, even married couples. ABC pulling the plug on it in 2017 was a retarded decision on their part and that they pretended it wasn't politically motivated on their part was them showing their true selves to the normies at long last. Least the show managed to get itself to a series finale, although I won't lie, I think quality suffered a bit when Fox picked it back up.
 
I actually realized a clever thing they could do with the latch jetpack button replacement for buzz in the new "lightyear" movie, though I know they probably won't do anything like this and the latch will be for some other shit. They could theoretically make it function like a dial kind of device that angles thrust stabilizers when in the fucking void of space for more control. I'm too out of it to properly explain what I mean here and there's like 2 or 3 people trying to talk to me about other shit right now so this is the best you'll get for the moment. They're probably just gonna make it some shit like "yeah that latch lets him get out of the spacesuit" like just removing all the cool stuff you could theoretically do with the scifi gadgets buzz has in any other incarnation.
 
I still haven't watched toy story 4 as I know it's end is literally an ad for the disney plus show that never fucking came out, but from the scenes I have seen I noticed some small things that bugged the shit out of me. That being one of them, but another being the fact Buzz's green isn't fucking glowing when he's in dim light. Sure, barely any of the toy story merch actually incorporates Buzz's glow feature, but in the movies it's kind of a big part of his whole character design. His green looks weirdly like the deep merch green than the actual movies' pale bright green.


"Onward" is like the last one I can think of that had the old pixar style with the fucking blue linguini looking motherfucker as the protagonist but even that had echoes of what was to come in it.

"Lightyear" looks a bit more like a weird grime-ified version of pixar's old style mixed with generic scifi stuff. Design elements of the character are changed for reasons that do not make much sense. Why is the jetpack button now a latch instead of a button? Why does Buzz not have a Laser? Why do the zurgbots have legs now and look like yellow hulkbusters instead of art deco space aliens? These are questions that will probably not have actual answers, but the removal of Tim Allen as the voice of Buzz is absolutely 100% more than likely a politics thing.
I wonder if Onward was in production while Lasseter was still a part or something.

It really is creepy how there really does seem to be an agenda to completely scrub out any old aspects of US society and culture.

I'm still pissed about what happened to Maelstrom. They took a short, cool, and exciting ambient ride and "reinvigorated it" by slowing the speed to a crawl, replacing the genuinely detailed animatronics with ones that had projected faces, and made it a slog through TV screens showing the fucking "let it go" sequence from FROZEN.
I only got to ride Maelstrom like once, but it was a cool and interesting ride that stood out as pretty unique, now it's just been turned into yet another ip focused thing.

That's one of the bad changes with the Disney parks, everything is now based on an ip, there's no rides that are just all new things, the last time a ride not based on an ip was opened in a US Disney park was Expedition Everest in 2006.
 
I wonder if Onward was in production while Lasseter was still a part or something.

It really is creepy how there really does seem to be an agenda to completely scrub out any old aspects of US society and culture.


I only got to ride Maelstrom like once, but it was a cool and interesting ride that stood out as pretty unique, now it's just been turned into yet another ip focused thing.

That's one of the bad changes with the Disney parks, everything is now based on an ip, there's no rides that are just all new things, the last time a ride not based on an ip was opened in a US Disney park was Expedition Everest in 2006.
Quite sad. You do miss the craft that went into what the Disney parks stood for.
 
For those of you wanting to know why Tim Allen isn't Buzz apparently the new Lightyear film is "based on the real astronaut that the toy was based on."

Which is utterly confusing and stupid but, well, you do you.
 
I wonder if Onward was in production while Lasseter was still a part or something.
When Pete Doctor was being interviewed for Soul, he said that none of the announced Pixar movies had been greenlit by him, and Luca, Turning Red, and Lightyear had already been announced at that time. Onward was announced in 2017 (though it did not have a title at the time) at D23 with Lasseter in attendance. It sounds like we won’t see anything that Doctor greenlit until 2023 at the earliest
 
I wonder if Onward was in production while Lasseter was still a part or something.

It really is creepy how there really does seem to be an agenda to completely scrub out any old aspects of US society and culture.


I only got to ride Maelstrom like once, but it was a cool and interesting ride that stood out as pretty unique, now it's just been turned into yet another ip focused thing.

That's one of the bad changes with the Disney parks, everything is now based on an ip, there's no rides that are just all new things, the last time a ride not based on an ip was opened in a US Disney park was Expedition Everest in 2006.
Maelstrom was pretty good, caught it pretty close to opening, maybe a week or few? Bunch of times after that.
iirc there's a photo from how bad maintenance got before it was changed to the point that the small polar bear's rock fixture hiding the mechanism had broken and there was a giant wiremesh hole opened up

but yeah it's disappointing in general how Norway became "uhh, princess land? yeah whatever"
the buffet was baller af in the day
had "Meat Salad" like, roast beef julienned into thin strips with various stuff mixed in
lots of good shit really

fuck I miss that buffet
 
For those of you wanting to know why Tim Allen isn't Buzz apparently the new Lightyear film is "based on the real astronaut that the toy was based on."

Which is utterly confusing and stupid but, well, you do you.
Wasn't the reason Tim Allen was Buzz in the original release of the Star command cartoon's pilot/movie a similar reasoning, but inversed? As in him being the real voice in the movies instead of an impersonator?
 
Wasn't the reason Tim Allen was Buzz in the original release of the Star command cartoon's pilot/movie a similar reasoning, but inversed? As in him being the real voice in the movies instead of an impersonator?
Maybe. I dunno. But I wonder whether anyone complained that it was Patrick Warburton in the cartoon.
 
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