💰 Grifter Devon Del Vecchio / "Dev" / ShortFatOtaku / @sleepy_devo - Degenerate loser, honorary whiteknight for Lilith Lovett, constantly at odds with his own viewers for being a centrist

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Frag Tag Mini 3 said:
Dev has decided he's going to try for the centrist routine again.
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Oh lord...
>Centrist because of the political compass test
Good god, that test is basic-bitch as fuck to the point of being near worthless at defining a person unless they go "highly agree/highly disagree" for a lot of the questions. There's a reason it was seen a LOT of people taking it would fall within the lib-left/lib-center area in most cases. Dev coming up in the middle for "Babby's first political test" means nothing.

That said, he is PARTLY true. I could easily agree that Dev is a centrist....Just not a "SENSIBLE" one.
Frag Tag Mini 3 said:
But this again comes back to how his being pedantic is just retarded. Because the best argument against this or any other line of reasoning is to argue for a definition of 'you' and hope you can make it so hyper specific as to create a materalist definition that somehow includes the perception of the physical while excluding the perception of the conceptual and I haven't thought that through but I'm sure it creates a mine field of other problems.
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Meh, all I see is this is the usual argument of empirical vs conceptual; each side has its pros and cons and shit goes nowhere fast, especially when you're dealing with metaphysical concepts such as the soul. The simplest answer Dev could give to that is "prove the existence of the soul", which usually ends with thought-experiments and shit that goes nowhere fast. That said, this could just as easily be turned against Dev with respect to natural rights vs "might is right" and the like; so I don't think Dev would stick to this ideal as much.
All I would say is Dev wins the argument by default, only because YWNBAW is in full effect. I don't care what a troon says they are, if their body says otherwise, I will listen to the body first. 100 times as much if said troon doesn't even put in an effort to try and pass.
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Also Dev, I dont know. Maybe there's a reason Americans are starting to view europeans as their enemies (I know I do). Cause keep in mind, this is all the reaction to Trump talking about wanting to BUY Greenland. Not invading it, not saying he's going to steal it, not threatening violence against anyone. Wanting to buy.

You go into any store and ask if you can buy something, and they start making fun of your cousin's overdose and calling you a retard, the store cant act shocked when you kind of personally hate them.
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The issue I have here (and where I feel Dev KINDA has a point) is Trump isn't willing to take 'No' for an answer, and has been very erratic in how he'd want to acquire Greenland, going "I'm not gonna use force to acquire it" one day, then on another day, going "We're gonna get it one way or another." This isn't "Guy entering your store and asking if he can buy something, so you mock him." This is "Guy is telling you to put up your house for sale, when you don't want to, and is saying everything from 'c'mon I'll give you a good price for it.' to 'If you don't sell it to me, these other guys might take it; so it's better I get it one way or another.'" At that point, the proper reply kinda would be to tell the guy "Piss off, faggot" and mock his mother. But the topic of Trump and Greenland is better off in his own thread (and I've spoken about it in length there.)
The problem here is, it's Dev retweeting this, and given the levels of TDS we've seen from him, it actually counts against the "anti-Trump side". On top of which, Trump being a "russian asset" is debatable and slightly retarded; at best, I'd imagine the guy is a useful idiot for Russia. He's not really taking marching orders from Putin; he's just being retarded over the whole thing because Norway isn't giving him what he wants.
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Chalk up another one for "Dev is TECHNICALLY correct; but I am highly doubtful of him knowing the right balance points of the issue." One can have free speech while also having social consequences; hell, simplest example of that would be the fags who like anime loli-shota bullshit. They may not be arrested (for now), but ostracizing them for that shit is a-ok as a social consequence.
The question is at what point the "social cost" crosses a line. As we've seen, getting people fired or shit for innocuous beliefs or political opinions is too far a social cost, but at some point, but that doesn't mean you let fags like NAMBLA or the KKK or commies walk around without any form of proper pushback. The only question is what the "proper pushback" would be; and I would not trust Dev to reply with a proper answer on that front.
 
The Fuck's Going On Here said:
The issue I have here (and where I feel Dev KINDA has a point) is Trump isn't willing to take 'No' for an answer, and has been very erratic in how he'd want to acquire Greenland, going "I'm not gonna use force to acquire it" one day, then on another day, going "We're gonna get it one way or another." This isn't "Guy entering your store and asking if he can buy something, so you mock him." This is "Guy is telling you to put up your house for sale, when you don't want to, and is saying everything from 'c'mon I'll give you a good price for it.' to 'If you don't sell it to me, these other guys might take it; so it's better I get it one way or another.'
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See, I'd say you have a point if not for the fact that all the talk about millitary force and other shit like that comes from journalists running up to ask him what his limits are when it comes to negotiations. Yeah, him being vauge isnt helpfull, but at the same time you cant just come out and tell everyone what you want or you get taken advantage of.

As for "It's going to get taken one way or another" Thats just him acknowledging reality. It's right next door to Russia and China, It's damn near perfect for acting as a staging area to threaten the north atlantic, and it has an absurd number of resources on it. That thing is not going to stay independant forever. I can understand that they might not like someone coming around to buy it, and thats perfectly reasonable. But it is either sell it now or risk having your grand kids having to deal with it being invaded.
 
NeonFlux said:
made his long term GF dress up as the troon?
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I would not be suprised if he did.

Frag Tag Mini 3 said:
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We are doing political compass again?
What year is it? 2018 .
2D chart is not good enough to represent something as complex as politics.
And that Internet test is pretty bad.
There are questions like : Do you believe in astrology?
Also you can be Ultra racist gooner. Who wants centrally planned economy and you will end up in center.
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Radola Gajda said:
I would not be suprised if he did.


We are doing political compass again?
What year is it? 2018 .
2D chart is not good enough to represent something as complex as politics.
And that Internet test is pretty bad.
There are questions like : Do you believe in astrology?
Also you can be Ultra racist gooner. Who wants centrally planned economy and you will end up in center.
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This meme test was always worthless, look back when dev took one.
 
Frag Tag Mini 3 said:
See, I'd say you have a point if not for the fact that all the talk about millitary force and other shit like that comes from journalists running up to ask him what his limits are when it comes to negotiations. Yeah, him being vauge isnt helpfull, but at the same time you cant just come out and tell everyone what you want or you get taken advantage of.

As for "It's going to get taken one way or another" Thats just him acknowledging reality. It's right next door to Russia and China, It's damn near perfect for acting as a staging area to threaten the north atlantic, and it has an absurd number of resources on it. That thing is not going to stay independant forever. I can understand that they might not like someone coming around to buy it, and thats perfectly reasonable. But it is either sell it now or risk having your grand kids having to deal with it being invaded.
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To add to this, a lot of left wing pundits are pointing out that "Trump was already able to put as much military presence as he wanted. This whole thing is pointless." Anyone who says this is missing the point of the sheer cost. With the future importance, America has to put a heavy investment in military forces in the area to secure everything. Because everyone knows NATO is gonna provide rubbish support.

If the US has to put a massive expensive fucking military in Greenland. Then it's only fair that we get to exploit the resources to minimize that cost. As opposed to the current contract where we foot the bill and Denmark gets the goods.
 
You have to disclose your answer to the questions otherwise you could have just entered whatever to get your desired centrist-ness
 
Notspecialdude said:
To add to this, a lot of left wing pundits are pointing out that "Trump was already able to put as much military presence as he wanted. This whole thing is pointless." Anyone who says this is missing the point of the sheer cost. With the future importance, America has to put a heavy investment in military forces in the area to secure everything. Because everyone knows NATO is gonna provide rubbish support.

If the US has to put a massive expensive fucking military in Greenland. Then it's only fair that we get to exploit the resources to minimize that cost. As opposed to the current contract where we foot the bill and Denmark gets the goods.
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I get the feeling that part of negotiations was 'putting millitary there to defend is expensive. Give us stuff or we leave nato and you get to deal with Russia alone.'
 
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Radola Gajda said:
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I think he will lose some , but he is close to the point of all who are still watching him are either detractors or enablers who will support him no matter what.
Edit: He is fighting with randos in chat.
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Sweep it up janny .
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Dev skimmed through the wikipedia article and concluded that Ruby Ridge was justified, despite the government itself admitting fault and the neighbor was acquitted for shooting a federal agent, but Dev is arguing that the ICE shooting wasn't morally justified? Dev's only principle is whether 'rightouds' are for or against something, so be must argue the opposite.
 
I called it. The faggot who defends Ruby Ridge now has a issue with law enforcement shooting people after they refuse to comply with their orders.

Bâtard Consanguine said:
Dev's only principle is whether 'rightouds' are for or against something, so be must argue the opposite.
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Pretty much. There is no world where someone would justify Ruby Ridge but then have a issue with this.
 
Radola Gajda said:
I think he will lose some , but he is close to the point of all who are still watching him are either detractors or enablers who will support him no matter what.
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So he's a less amusing Phil Burnell. At least Phil you can get some amusement out of bad gameplay.
General Emílio Médici said:
I called it. The faggot who defends Ruby Ridge now has a issue with law enforcement shooting people after they refuse to comply with their orders.



Pretty much. There is no world where someone would justify Ruby Ridge but then have a issue with this.
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He's a massive faggot who tries to justify his own ends.
 
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This is ultimate cope . Muh audience capture. Nigger spent almost decade dick riding Sargon . And until last year he was buddy buddy with Arch .
He built his audience and it is not their fault they are not interested in his 3 years long tantrum
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"I criticize Chaz and Jan6 equally . Also I am only one living in reality . It is you who is out of touch ".
CHAZ /CHOP = 10 tweets . Jan6 100s of tweets and God only knows how many times he seethed about it on other platforms.
Could you put atleast some effort in your own lies Social Parasite ?
Also lol I live in reality said troon white knight.
 
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This is ultimate cope . Muh audience capture. Nigger spent almost decade dick riding Sargon . And until last year he was buddy buddy with Arch .
He built his audience and it is not their fault they are not interested in his 3 years long tantrum
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'God I hate post modernists' says the man thats snippes his balls and supports trannies with no plan to have kids. 'They fundamentally reject reality!! Now excuse me while I try to claim the people at ruby ridge deserved it. Then tune in next time so I can tell you why the Ice shooting wasnt self defense."
 
Radola Gajda said:
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I think he will lose some , but he is close to the point of all who are still watching him are either detractors or enablers who will support him no matter what.
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I knew dev was going to be a contrarian, but I didn't expect him to go with the stupidest defense possible. The majority of leftists didn't even use this argument, because even the average leftist has a higher iq than dev.

It's incredibly easy to refute this line of reasoning. The simple minded retort for low iq dev types would be to examine a comparable scenario. Say someone throws a grenade at you, are you not allowed to shoot them since it won't stop the grenade? The moment the grenade leaves their fingertips, they're no longer a threat? You just have to suck it up and die, they're home free once you're death is already guaranteed! It's just fucking moronic, no one actually thinks this way. He is only momentarily latching onto this reasoning, because the shooting was so demonstrably justified, he has to pretend to hold insane morals to claim otherwise.

The more in depth reason this is wrong, an explanation that requires at least a 90iq to comprehend so dev wouldn't be able to engage with, is that this is basic fucking game theory. The reason you shoot people who are trying to run you over/thrown an explosive at your feet, is the same reason countries would all nuke one another as soon as one nuke is in their air. It's MAD, and every organism on the planet has built into their DNA for a fucking reason.

If the instant your death is assured, you have to give up fighting back, then the meta becomes to attack everyone ASAP with maximum lethality. If the first country to put a nuke in the air was suddenly immune to being nuked back because "durrrrr it wouldn't stop us from being nuked" then the instant any sort of conflict crops up, your strategy is to get your nukes out first, even over a slight skirmish. Same thing with cars/bombs, you make sure to maximize lethality asap so the opponent just has to give up and die because muh morals or whatever dumb shit.

You fight to the last breath, even if it won't save your hide, because it makes the prospect of trying to kill you a high risk scenario. If someone is trying to run you over, you fucking kill them no matter what, because you should ensure that if people are going to try to kill you, it comes at the risk of their own life. It's a fucking deterrent, that even insects have programmed deep into their instincts.

Anyway none of my yapping matters, because dev isn't acting in good faith. He just wants rightoids to accept bike cuck logic and let themselves be killed. He doesn't have principles other than killing people he doesn't like.

dev should hurry up with the dying of fatness already, useless nigger.
 
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