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I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would think that a debilitating disability is a good thing.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would think that a debilitating disability is a good thing.
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Well apparantly they're not disabled.

This is pretty good news to me as a disabled person since we can re-alocate the resoarces expended on support they don't need to me. Naturally if they have any objections we can obviously discuss them ....perhaps over the phone.

Jokes aside Self-indentifying with your disability to such a degree is really unhealthy.
 
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Emperor Julian said:
...perhaps over the phone.
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This joke would work if we don't have video phone to make a call.

EDIT: Oi, that website didn't explain what video phone is. I'll explain that to you.
If I want to phone call to a hearing person, I'd have a screen from my side, then ASL interpreter between us, calls you, and then you answers the phone. Whatever I signed to ASL interpreter will be interpreted into a spoken English form to you. Or the other way around with spoken English into ASL.

You also can call me and get the same result.

Note: If I call a Deaf person, I'd be seeing Deaf person on the screen instead of ASL interpreter.
 
You occasionally get pity celebrity cases within the deaf community. Meet Sean Forbes. Member of the Deaf-with-big-D community, and known for being a deaf rapper. Despite his cheesy elementary rhymes, strong speech impediment, and heavy Auto-Tune that puts Cher to shame, Sean was signed to the same label as freaking Eminem.


I guess it's still better than suburban white mom rappers.
 
Real Mayun said:
You occasionally get pity celebrity cases within the deaf community. Meet Sean Forbes. Member of the Deaf-with-big-D community, and known for being a deaf rapper. Despite his cheesy elementary rhymes, strong speech impediment, and heavy Auto-Tune that puts Cher to shame, Sean was signed to the same label as freaking Eminem.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=E5l-2Jo14cQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=p3q8W2XBSU4https://youtube.com/watch?v=p9De54n8oRk
I guess it's still better than suburban white mom rappers.
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His sign language didn't rhyme to my eyes, which is a big surprise considering how much the Deaf community is fucking wild over him, enough for anyone to see at least a Deaf person sporting a t-shirt of his branding at a Deaf event.
 
Iwasamwillbe said:
I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would think that a debilitating disability is a good thing.
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It's a tribal thing.

"Me born with big lump. Big lump good, because part of me. Other grugs with no big lump, bad people, not part of tribe."

Their ape brains are using this trait they've been burdened with as a defining characteristic of their person. Their psyche notices they're going to be left out of society and culture due to being incapable of fully experiencing an innate experience that society appreciates. So what does the psyche do? It disregards that trait, and as a defensive mechanism, argues to itself that the trait (hearing) is unnecessary, and anyone who appreciates it must be inherently wrong (further arguing they're elitist or over-privileged). This way, instead of the psyche becoming despondent and suicidal over being left out of society, and thusly, unable to mate, it's constructed it's own fantasy world where everyone else is wrong, and they now have a purpose in life to show the rest of civilization the true path of life. In other words, they have sour grapes.

Obviously if you have more than two synapses to slap together than you realize how asinine this line of reasoning is. But that's the power of the psyche for you, literally turning a disability into a superpower, just to let itself go to sleep at night while telling itself it can totally get laid this way.
 
I knew a girl who was deaf and she'd actually switch between ASL or verbally speaking/lipreading if you didn't know shit regarding signing. She also was okay with a person writing on notepads to communicate, but that's been two, three decades now.
Because of her, I've always thought most deaf people were chill with whatever mode of communication, but now I wonder if she got swept up in this shit or if she's like us and thinks it's egotistical bullshit.

Because yikes.
 
eldri said:
While there is no reason for deaf people to go to concerts, ASL music videos are popular in the deaf community to the point of causing controversy.
https://impactmind.com/appropriate-method-for-appropriation/

Also, more on the gene editing controversy: (((deaf community)))
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I'm deaf myself and I know some deaf people who LOVES going to raves and concert and just rock out/dance to the beat rather than focusing on words or lyrics. But yes, ASL music videos; I'm on the fence in between good and bad about it but I just think 'eh, to each own'

Dollars2010 said:
Oh hey, I ‘m completely deaf in my left ear thanks to numerous infections and surgeries since I was born up until I was fifteen and everything got goofed. My right ear is fine though.

I took a semester of ASL in college because, hey, I’m deaf and it would be smart to learn this. In which I happened upon a club of Deaf folks, which I gave a one day try and booked it after that since it was actually just full of a group of exclusive Deaf friends who only wanted True and Honest Deaf people part of it. They mostly went on about how they weren’t “disabled” and “hearing impaired “ much like OP mentioned.

Despite that, I’d very much like to learn and better ASL. :oops:
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Fuck the deaf elitist is what I say, just gotta find a welcoming deaf person!

RodgerDodger said:
Back when I worked EMS we had a large, world renowned, school for the Deaf in my district. It was by far the scariest most horrifying place I have ever encountered. (And I’ve seen some horrors!) We actually wanted to try and get at least our officers trained in sign language. Enough to facilitate EMS and Medical Emergencies. The school fought us in ways that you would not believe. They took steps to insure that the kids only communication with the outside hearing world was exclusively through them and their “teachers”. It didn’t take us long to work out that yes the place was in fact a cult. A really scary one. Conversations with Law Enforcement and CPS went knowhere. They were just as frustrated as us. The place was politically protected.
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Can...I ask which deaf school was that? Please don't say MSSD.
 
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Another deaf person here. Also loves music- rather than just the beats than the lyrics. I don't really care what anyone calls me: D/deaf, hearing impaired, whatever. It still makes the person know I have problems hearing anyway.

Despite me being deaf, I don't know ASL. Tried to but got frustrated. I can lip-read anyway. After I got my implant, I wasn't welcomed in the deaf community anymore. But who cares, I feel like a cyborg with it. It's pretty cool!

I think the problem is that the majority of deaf people being assholes is rather that they're on the mindset of "You will have a better, easier time functioning in society if you are not deaf". And thus, they want their members remain as they were born (deaf) and to speak sign language. OR probably a defense mechanism, they feel like outsiders wouldn't understand or respect them. Or they're just flat-out assholes. It is interesting to have seen and experience all sides of the spectrum.
 
I was always surprised we didn't have this thread.

Hey remember when some deaf assholes decided that because a small minority of people on the planet couldn't benefit from free knowledge released on the internet, no one can?

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...delete-publicly-available-educational-content
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/13/...d-over-failing-to-caption-online-courses.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?noredirect=on

Rundown:
There was a time when you could basically audit most or all classes at major universities (Harvard, MIT, etc) for free thanks to visual\audio recording. They just set up recording equipment in the classrooms and then streamed it for free to whomever wanted to watch. Think about how amazing it was that, thanks to 2015 technology, some poor black kid in Alabama with no money to leave his town could learn about astrophysics by watching some of the most accomplished minds teach as long as he could find an internet connection, even a local library.

But not anymore! Because a number of assholes (particularly Stacy Nowak and Glenn Lockhart) decided that wasn't good enough. So, the universities faced a choice. They could either pay huge amounts of money to transcribe the videos and audio to the specifications required (for a program they were offering for free to everyone) or end it. Since they weren't going to make any of that money back, guess what they did? Stacy and Glenn don't care, they have all the jobs and degrees they need already. You'd think maybe they would have raised money to help transcribe the stuff themselves instead of suing, but nah.
 
Dragon Face said:
Cochlear Implant
The majority of Deaf people would silently fucking hate you with for having a cochlear implant.
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This is the worst part IMO. They refuse something which could open up so many doors for them and improve their life in many ways, bc muh "deaf culture" and special snowflakeness. It sounds like a caricature of identity politics but it is actually real. I just wonder what is wrong with these people (and the part of the autistic community which is adamantly against any kind of cure or treatment, which is the majority nowadays) to make them so prideful and tribalistic. Oh wait, don't have to wonder with the autistic community. That kind of makes me wonder if autism and deafness is comorbid...
 
I know they dislike cochlear implants, but what about hearing aids meant for people who still have some ability to hear? Or, like, I used to be some degree of hearing impaired as a kid and I had a bunch of surgeries and now I'm fine--would that also be bad in their view?
 
There was this video on facebook about a girl being taken away from her grandma- and it was very clear said girl was in distress- and all this woman had to say was how rude it was that the poster of the video didn't put captions on for D e a f people.

Honestly, I think it's fine if they ask for captions, doesn't bother me. It's just that so many have sticks up their asses and are so eager to call someone out for being rude just because they had the nerve to not caption a video.
 
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