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Can confirm everything I've seen on this thread myself. Went to an ASL course first year in college and the bitch was straight up a deaf supremacist and said a lot of the shit here.

The idea of a deaf supremacist is strangely amusing. You have massive disadvantage in all possible situations, except getting an early night when next door is partying How you even begin to rationalise that?
 
The idea of a deaf supremacist is strangely amusing. You have massive disadvantage in all possible situations, except getting an early night when next door is partying How you even begin to rationalise that?
A lot of it is just coping that turned into a misplaced sense of pride. It's a shame since avoiding self-loathing is important for someone in that kind've condition but they went past that and just trucked on into rampant stupidity.
 
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I’m surprised that no one has mentioned Signmark. He’s a Deaf rapper from Finland who makes Deaf sign language. He has a hearing person say out the words that he says. He’s better than Sean Forbes lyrically and musically, but like Forbes, much of his music is about how he defied the odds and how he’s defying the haters.
 
I've taken an interest in the militant deaf community as a cow source since inquiring into why every press conference now has a sign-language translator in picture-in-picture.
It's quite interesting that you have these signing-supremacists who will abjectly refuse to deal with anyone through notes or lip-reading, and that they've quickly bent the media and what seems like all political parties to their will.
 
Remember when the politically correct position was "a person is not defined by their disability"? When did that change?
 
I've taken an interest in the militant deaf community as a cow source since inquiring into why every press conference now has a sign-language translator in picture-in-picture.
It's quite interesting that you have these signing-supremacists who will abjectly refuse to deal with anyone through notes or lip-reading, and that they've quickly bent the media and what seems like all political parties to their will.
it's a good thing really. deaf people are isolated without that access. captions and signing kind of force them to see the rest of society and hear (lol) what's being said
 
Hearing Redditor is mad his wife won't learn ASL to understand what he and his deaf dad and "nonverbal" soon to be boyfriend are saying in front of her.

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Original - Oct. 10, 2022
My (33m) father is deaf. Because of this, I’ve been signing for as long as I can remember. My wife (33f) is hearing and has never put much effort into learning ASL beyond a few basic signs. This has never bothered me, but it does make it difficult when we visit my family since I basically have to play translator if she and my dad want to have conversations, but I do it to facilitate a bond between them.
About two months ago, I learned of an opportunity at the local college in our city where volunteer native speakers could come converse with the students in the advanced ASL courses. It was going to be a monthly thing in order to track the students’ progress. I jumped at the chance to help out - I’m very passionate about people learning ASL. One of the other volunteers there was a non verbal man, Alex (29m), who I found an easy comradery with. We exchanged numbers and became fast friends.
We began hanging out and during the time we would spend at my place, I wouldn’t translate even if my wife was in the room (other than their introductions and small talk) because Alex never requested I do so.
After a few weeks of this, my wife brought it up as something that was bothering her. She said she felt left out and like Alex and I were “keeping secrets.” I politely apologized and went on to have a discussion with Alex about this whole thing. He said he felt it was rude that my wife never even so much as made an effort to learn ASL, especially since I had very close family who were deaf, so he had no interest in conversing with her. And honestly, I kind of agreed with him. It didn’t rub me the wrong way at first, but now that she’s complaining about being left out despite having years to learn at least some of this new language feels silly to me.
I let my wife know I would still translate for my dad and her, but things were staying the same with Alex. She’s still angry at me.
AITA?
Edit: I addressed this in a comment but I saw it as a recurring question and someone suggested I put it in an edit as well -- we usually visit my dad every other weekend.
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Update - October 23, 2022
I have no idea why the AITA mods denied my request to update there and this will likely get seen by very few, but hey! Here's the update I submitted there for any who are curious as to how my situation turned out:
Hey everyone. Thank you for the kindness and constructive criticism on my first post.
As many advised, I sat down and had a conversation with my wife about my changing point of view on her ASL abilities. I said I made a mistake by coming at her with resentment and hostility instead of taking the time to explain my thoughts. I expressed that I was hurt over her complaints because people like Alex and my dad have to go through life being unable to communicate. What she experienced isn’t even a fraction of what they do. I reminded her that she has had a Deaf FIL for years and plenty of opportunities to learn, and she hasn’t taken them.
I mentioned in a comment on my original post that it’s been a dream of mine to adopt a Deaf/HoH child sometime in the future. I brought this up to her again as yet another reason why learning could be beneficial. Even if that dream doesn't end up coming to fruition, there will still be people in our lives who communicate through ASL. There are literally no cons to learning, only pros. My wife said she understood and that she would make time to do so, even if it was just a daily sign from me or a quick YouTube video lesson. I thanked her and we moved on.
During the week following this conversation, I saw no effort on her part despite what she had said. I brought it up to her once a few days later, then again at the end of the week, and I was continually brushed off with what essentially boiled down to: 'I'm busy, I'll get to it later.' This was disheartening.
I went to my parents' home alone last weekend and vented to them about what was going on. My dad shared with me a story, one I had heard many times before, about how quickly my mom started learning ASL after the two of them met. He hadn't asked her to and it took some time before they were able to have a proper conversation that way, but what had mattered was the effort. Not just passively, like my wife picking up a few basic signs over the years, but real 'actively trying to learn' effort. My mom suggested I give her a little more time, but that if this is something that means a lot to me then I need to stand up for that.
In the almost two weeks since the conversation with my wife, I've hung out with Alex many times and we did our monthly volunteer work at the local college. Being immersed in that culture feels invaluable to me. The juxtaposition between the appreciation for this beautiful language versus the scrapbooking and pottery classes my wife is in... It's been hard for me to accept that that's where she would rather spend her time despite what we talked about. I don't expect her to drop her hobbies, but she promised me she would TRY. When I admitted this to her, it caused a big argument. She is currently staying elsewhere while I'm staying at our home with a friend. Sometimes people's growth happens in opposite directions, it seems.

ETA relevant comments:
In response to questions as to why Alex was allowed to insult wife in home: "Allowing space for someone to expression frustration over their primary (and only, in this case) form of communication being looked at as inconvenient or a tool for secret keeping doesn't feel disrespectful to me personally.
With that being said, it is a fantastic was to gossip."
In response to whether it was communicated prior to marriage that learning ASL was important: "She obviously knew about my upbringing and the importance of ASL to me, but there was never an expectation that she learn it. Her complaining and me getting further involved in the community plus creating a new support system has started changing my opinion on things."
In response to questions about children: "We don't have children currently. At one point (prior to meeting my wife), I was sincerely invested in the thought of adopting a deaf or hard of hearing child, but that specific dream got put on the back burner when life happened and things got a little more hectic. It's something that's been popping up in my mind against recently, and yeah... that would be difficult if one of the child's parents feels like it's too much effort to even try and communicate. I have some things to consider moving forward, it seems."
Just general info: "Effort really does go a long way in showing someone how much you care. My dad met Alex a few weeks ago and he was overjoyed to meet a friend of mine who he could converse with properly, but he's also been happy in the past when my friends (mostly from my high school days) wanted to learn at all."
 
How exactly did the guy's mom and dad even get involved if they couldn't talk to each other from the moment they encountered one another? How did that proceed? Was she just like "Oh a retard, I'm codependent and have a personality disorder and am aroused by helpless retards". Was she a mail order bride? What happened there?

Also, I can't believe this faggot openly, vocally looks down on his wife's pottery and scrapbooking, but the fact she maybe just doesn't have an autistic obsession with sign language means she's a terrible person. Unbelievable, Redditors really are something else.

Maybe it was this lady's fault for marry a guy from a family that has an obvious tard fetish and think they're superior for it. Hopefully she divorces him so she can have some normal hobbies without some loser in the background constantly needling her.
 
How exactly did the guy's mom and dad even get involved if they couldn't talk to each other from the moment they encountered one another? How did that proceed? Was she just like "Oh a retard, I'm codependent and have a personality disorder and am aroused by helpless retards". Was she a mail order bride? What happened there?

Also, I can't believe this faggot openly, vocally looks down on his wife's pottery and scrapbooking, but the fact she maybe just doesn't have an autistic obsession with sign language means she's a terrible person. Unbelievable, Redditors really are something else.

Maybe it was this lady's fault for marry a guy from a family that has an obvious tard fetish and think they're superior for it. Hopefully she divorces him so she can have some normal hobbies without some loser in the background constantly needling her.
In one of the comments the aspiring homosexual deaf fetishist explains that his mom speed-learned ASL because she was so attracted to his dad. He says this in the context of "why can't my wife just be like my mom??" Ignoring the fact that learning a language to impress someone you want to get with romantically is rather different from learning a language so you can listen to your FIL drone about politics and football and your husband's sidepiece complain about your interior decorating sense.
 
What I don’t understand about so many of these disability rights movements is when the activists claim that disabilities are “just differences”. Wasn’t the reason that disability-related legislation was passed was because disabled people had problems in the first place?
 
Am I retarded or just missing something? Why do they all cry about the parents "making the decision for the deaf child", when it could just always remove their implant/turn it off/stab a pencil into their ears? While on the other hand, if the parents don't get any medical intervention, the decision is set in stone and the child will stay deaf?

Am I retarded? Those people seem so convinced in their beliefs, and I am completely unable to even begin comprehending where they're coming from. Is this just a case of coping gone too far?
 
Am I retarded or just missing something? Why do they all cry about the parents "making the decision for the deaf child", when it could just always remove their implant/turn it off/stab a pencil into their ears? While on the other hand, if the parents don't get any medical intervention, the decision is set in stone and the child will stay deaf?

Am I retarded? Those people seem so convinced in their beliefs, and I am completely unable to even begin comprehending where they're coming from. Is this just a case of coping gone too far?
There are deaf people who unironically consider themselves essentially their own ethnicity and see any attempt to cure deafness as some kind of genocide against them. I think a lot of it comes from deaf people having their own little community since obviously they can't talk to people, which then manifests as this weird selfish desire to force newly born deaf kids into their community even when they have a chance at hearing normally.

The crux of it is that their desire for a community is more important to them than the well being of these children, kind of similar to the nutters who claim that trying to cure downs syndrome is genocide because itd deprive downies of other downies to have a community with. Crabs in a bucket essentially, wanting to drag others down so they don't have to be alone in their suffering.
 
Apologies if this isn't the right thread for the topic, but I think it is.
Here's an exceptional deaf individual I've known about for a little while, Ricky Duncan Taylor (handles Ridor/Ridor9th). He's a social and political commentary blogger/vlogger who has been a nuisance in Deaf/Hard of Hearing communities for over a decade.

Blogspot: https://ridor.blogspot.com/ (https://archive.md/i3BPL)
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ridor9th/videos (https://archive.md/vT2vx)

Like many commentary video makers, Ricky has a massively overinflated sense of self-importance and morality. He has been involved in arguments with dozens of deaf video makers and bloggers, with many of them outright calling him a bully

Ricky has been accused of abusing mod powers in a Deaf forum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OII00LsVwqU, https://web.archive.org/web/20230104203130/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OII00LsVwqU), and has been given the moniker "King of FOW". FOW, from what I gather, is a sign language synonym for sped, making Ricky the Deaf King of Speds. (https://newfolder1994.blogspot.com/2015/03/deafvideotv-ricky-taylor-king-of-fow.html, https://archive.md/Gs99V)
All of this is just the widow-dressing to his massive personal idiocy. Ricky was arrested in 2010, apparently for beating his mother and stealing her television. He is rumored to have a cocaine addiction, which may explain the theft. (See bottom posts in https://archive.md/TCjT3, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g8Vd6IR4P4) Ricky later filed a lolsuit against the Riverside Virginia regional jail authority for discrimination when while in jail he was unable to watch closed captioning on TV and was not told when it was time to shave, among other deranged reasons. This suit was dismissed immediately because he had already been released from jail for over a year at the time of filing. (https://casetext.com/case/taylor-v-riverside-regional-jail-auth, https://archive.md/YfAJ3)

Ricky used his blogging platform to gain interviews with trendy news sources looking to interview a double minority gay and deaf man. A number of these exist, but this one has possibly the funniest article title I've ever seen:
Deaf, Gay and Out For Blood
https://web.archive.org/web/2013041...lood-interview-blogger-ricky-taylor-ridorlive (https://archive.md/9G6oA)

Sometime after his arrest, Ricky moved from Virginia to Pocatello, Idaho (https://www.whitepages.com/name/Ricky-Duncan-Taylor/Pocatello-ID/P53kEoLAQ9p, https://voterrecords.com/voter/99990368/ricky-taylor). He has continued to get into internet spats with other deaf commentators and more recently was arrested again. (https://vinelink.vineapps.com/person-detail/defendant/2256721;tabIndexToSelect=0, unable to archive-screencap attached)
I have a very good feeling this cow has a lot of milk waiting to be found on just his Youtube channel, but unfortunately I don't speak jazz hands. Still, the general reaction of other deaf bloggers to his arrest and the news articles make him worth a read about, even for someone like me who doesn't know sign language. Rickytalorarrest.PNG
 
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