Well you know how the villains in Season 1 are genuinely impressive and feel actually menacing and you think they're not going to top that?
And then in Season 2, they take one of the goofier comic book villains and he's actually even more threatening and disturbing than the villains of Season 1 and you think there's no way they'll top that?
Watch Season 3 on the toilet because you're going to shit yourself.
It has been missed on this thread, but Matt Reeves has been going off on Twitter recently with random images and videos hinting at The Batman Part II. I think it pretty much confirmed Mr Freeze will be the main antagonist of the film as he is posting a lot of Snow related content.
It has been missed on this thread, but Matt Reeves has been going off on Twitter recently with random images and videos hinting at The Batman Part II. I think it pretty much confirmed Mr Freeze will be the main antagonist of the film as he is posting a lot of Snow related content.
Very much so. Thank you for the tag. Clearly I have gotten a reputation here as Matt Reeves' number one fanboy and champion!
I'm actually okay with that. I respect people who don't love his Batman, I'm not a zealot. But personally I think it's near a masterpiece with only the tiniest flaw.
Selina: "white"
The movie also has one of my two favourite batmobiles which are: and
It has been missed on this thread, but Matt Reeves has been going off on Twitter recently with random images and videos hinting at The Batman Part II. I think it pretty much confirmed Mr Freeze will be the main antagonist of the film as he is posting a lot of Snow related content. View attachment 9012284
So this is absolutely fascinating. Freeze is one of the tougher Batman villains to do realistically. Joker, Riddler, Penguin all have minimal fantastic elements to them (unless you count the plot armour modern writers keep giving Joker). Scarecrow merely adds a small amount of 'plausible science'. Condiment King (thank you @OutInTheRain ) is also very much on the realism side. Most are. Croc adds a degree of fantastic, but still obeys physical laws. Bane as normally drawn is the first significant step into the fantastic, though you can do more realistic version. Then you get to Poison Ivy, Clayface and Freeze. The first two are fantastic. The third is fantastic but you could do a much toned down version, however I think you shouldn't. And I don't think Reeves will. I think Batman should have fantastic elements like Poison Ivy, Freeze, etc. I dislike the Nolan addiction to faux-realism.
Putting one of the fantastic villains in for the second movie is the right call. And if anyone can pull it off, I think Reeves can.
I've said this before but he's almost the anti-Nolan. Nolan does everything to have a realistic aesthetic - clear views of everything with naturalistic palletes (though tinted blue to make it feel more "real") He shoots them like Heat or some other modern crime/gangster movie. And yet things aren't actually realistic. The batmobile drives along rooftops, for example. Nolan takes comic book stuff and tries to make it for "adults". Whilst there is little in Reeve's first movie that is actually unrealistic but it is all presented very much in a comic book aesthetic. Reeve's is actually less of a prisoner of realism than Nolan is.
Honestly, this movie can't come soon enough for me. And Freeze is continuing the vein of using smart villains.
Actually, come to think of it that's one of the most common traits of Batman's villains: they're typically very smart. I like that.
When it comes to smart villains, I've always wanted to see the Clock King in a movie.
This is one of the moments in TAS that stuck with me:
In this one short moment, we see that he's not only physically fit, he has foresight and always has a plan B.
That kind of guy could really fuck up Batman's day and a storyline with him would involve Batman having to outsmart him.
Sadly, he's not popular so we'll never get him as a main antagonist.
If James Gunn is still in charge of DC at the time, you'll get the Brave and the Bold version:
Literally a dude with a clock for a head with a crown. I'm fairly sure that's his actual head as well as in prison scenes he's still wearing it. It even tells the time with the hands moving from scene to scene.
The clock king was cool both in his classic 60s version and the TAS one. As for nu-Batman 2, the fact it took so long to begin production is a bad sign, probably due to Gunn interfering. In fact, due to that same guy, I don't expect much of it. In before Freeze is black here.
It has been missed on this thread, but Matt Reeves has been going off on Twitter recently with random images and videos hinting at The Batman Part II. I think it pretty much confirmed Mr Freeze will be the main antagonist of the film as he is posting a lot of Snow related content.
I don't think it's going to be Mr. Freeze. It's a little too goofy, flamboyant, and campy for Reeves' universe. What all the pictures are showing is kind of a "natural" cold, and it's not the snow or anything that is doing anything. It's actually Batman himself being cold. And what do we do when we're cold? We get under a blanket. A specific kind of blanket. Which can only mean one thing:
Eh? Croc is literally a mutated crocodile man. Ever since the late 90s he's been a discount version of the Lizard. Sure he was originally just a dude with a bad skin condition but the original Clayface was just a dude in cosplay. And Poison Ivy originally had no superpowers either IIRC.
How about he does that one villainess who was born with a hollow brain and has a hole in her head?
God damn, I love it when comics aren’t afraid to be retarded.
Batman the Brave and the Bold was a much more... energetic take on DC. What even the pictures cannot convey is the outrageous Barvarian accent they added too.
The show was very different but certainly made by fans with a lot of obscure callbacks:
So this is absolutely fascinating. Freeze is one of the tougher Batman villains to do realistically. Joker, Riddler, Penguin all have minimal fantastic elements to them (unless you count the plot armour modern writers keep giving Joker). Scarecrow merely adds a small amount of 'plausible science'. Condiment King (thank you @OutInTheRain ) is also very much on the realism side. Most are. Croc adds a degree of fantastic, but still obeys physical laws. Bane as normally drawn is the first significant step into the fantastic, though you can do more realistic version. Then you get to Poison Ivy, Clayface and Freeze. The first two are fantastic. The third is fantastic but you could do a much toned down version, however I think you shouldn't. And I don't think Reeves will. I think Batman should have fantastic elements like Poison Ivy, Freeze, etc. I dislike the Nolan addiction to faux-realism.
From a themes standpoint, Freeze is the best option. He is the most sympathetic Batman villain and has some level of a morality code that makes him unlike the usual thugs Batman, and especially this Batman, have gone up against. He is one of the few rogues that will willingly step down and work with Batman without much coaxing. I think Reeves theme of a slowly humanizing Batman would do well with Freeze being a major turning point in his career. He is a man who understands loss much like him.
If I were Reeves, I would take from the Arkham games as the main source. I think those games version of the Freeze/Batman relationship is the most fitting for his universe, having the ability to become hostile due to both parties' arrogance and lack of patience. The Penguin is also being set up to be a big figure, and part of me can see the story being hijacked by Oswald as the true big-bad, likely following what he does to Victor in City.
If followed, hope Reeves goes all the way and allows for Freeze's end. Arkham gave him the best ending out of any version as it perfectly fits the bittersweet nature of the character, giving him and Nora the chance for happiness, though on a timer. Best case scenario, we rework the militia into the growing Penguin forces. Penguin wants Freeze's weaponry, holds Nora hostage, and we get the giant Winter Batmobile showdown on the iced over flood. It isn't like Penguin gaining military tech is out of the blue, bro was pulling it out in City and it can be inferred in the Reevesverse his slow rise in the decimated city got him access to plenty of bullshit toys.
