DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

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Fatsuit Shinji said:
Don't see DC covers like this from DC these days.
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If you're fortunate, you might stumble upon a variant cover with appealing artwork, but don't expect the interior art to be anywhere near as impressive.
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Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Member when Dc had tons of content running? And not just Batman, Losh, the Krypto cartoon, Brave and Bold, Gl:tas, the animated movie adaptations. What happened.
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DC Nation flopped, unfortunately, pushing them away from animation.

The block was heavily held back by Cartoon Network and placed at a rather terrible time for a block that catered more towards older audiences. The Saturday morning time slot was a rough one for viewership and should have been placed during CN's Friday Night action cartoon block instead.

Additionally, neither of the two shows made for the block were able to sustain it as they both had grey areas that made them flop. Green Lantern is obvious in how the Ryan Reynolds movie tanked any marketing opportunity for it as no one wanted merchandise based on the movie. Young Justice was able to garner a very strong viewership, but its demographics didn't align with CN and WB's marketing of 7-10 year old boys, leaning more older and, by the creators admission, more female than expected. By the time Beware the Batman appeared, it was far too late, not that BtB would have done much.

In general, DC Nation was the ultimate block of wasted potential. Besides Teen Titans Go and kind-of DC Super Best Friends (DC Super Hero Girls) getting green lit, there is a whole collection of should have been series that they sat on. Princess Amethyst of Gem World was easily the biggest waste, it was a great update that could have easily expanded the DC brand outside of boy capeshit - helps the head female writer of Teen Titans, Amy Wolfram, was on it. Plastic Man is a close second of absolute waste not giving him a series. Tom Kenny loved the character and tried for years to get him a bigger role.
 
Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Not sure Tim is that unique. Were other 14 yr old comic characters smashing puss in the 90's?
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I mean this went on like 20 years. from whenever the robin book starts until he's red robin during the reborn era hes still running away from sex. (no idea about new 52 because he was regulated to a Titans only character basically at that point and that book was fucking terrible so I dropped it real quick)

I don't think it's altogether weird to not have a teen character having sex, what I think is weird is to constantly put them in that position like twice a year or every other arc and then make a point for them not to. He's got to be vaguely an adult by the time he's Red Robin and he's still doing that shit.

Even if you look at other equitable teen superhero characters in the era, the difference is sex is probably vaguely implied either way or just not brought up even if they are in relationships. (I think Superboy got laid a few times in that series but it's vague about it) what makes Tim Drake Robin unique is it comes up regularly and he's always giving chicks the ol 'we just aren't ready' excuse which is just hilarious to come from a teenage boy.

they did this to such a point there's an arc where Stephanie gets pregnant from another guy basically to prop Tim up like look he was right, this whore had sex and is now pregnant. It's all retarded. I would never think about it if the series didnt spend 20 years randomly bringing it up.
 
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Basic Blond Boy said:
My mistake, I see he isn't around any longer, and hasn't been since 2011. Still he was a big part of those series and arguably was one of Timm's tard wranglers.
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He was just as bad.

John Stewart getting with red, white and winged?

That’s him. Timm self-inserted into Batman, Dwayne self-inserted into the shitty, boring Green Lantern.
 
The Token Ethnic said:
If you're fortunate, you might stumble upon a variant cover with appealing artwork, but don't expect the interior art to be anywhere near as impressive.
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It's a comic tradition going back either to when comics started having artists doing just the covers and other artists doing just the interior artwork. Or the mid 1980ies when the "quality" of cover and interior artwork started divulging drastically from each other.
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Superman, Batman, Green Lantern (the black one, which one? ALL OF THEM), Robin, Joker, Luthor...
And that's all that normies know about.
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Unironically I think some sort of Green Lantern Hero Shooter could be really cool. Make it asymmetric so each corps is totally unique. WB wouldn't do this though because there's minimal Batman potential
 
GlupShitto said:
Unironically I think some sort of Green Lantern Hero Shooter could be really cool. Make it asymmetric so each corps is totally unique. WB wouldn't do this though because there's minimal Batman potential
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Lanterns share a similar power set even amongst corps, the different ones could work as skins. Maybe the Blue Lanterns could work for co-op, but either way, these sound like expansions. Lastly, what about Lantern Batman? He's been teased since forever but never done much, if only because it would make things too easy for Gotham and take Hal's job.
 
Suikafag said:
I don’t believe this has been posted here at all. DC is going to make a new Red Hood comic series.
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Cool right? Well~ its being written by Gretchen Felker-Martin. Whom is this you ask? Why the author of acclaimed trans horror novel Manhunt of course….god help us all.

Source (archive)
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Stop. Making. Red Hood. Wear. Actual. Red. Hoods.

It always looks fucking stupid. He looks like a cyberpunk graffiti artist.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
My mistake, I see he isn't around any longer, and hasn't been since 2011. Still he was a big part of those series and arguably was one of Timm's tard wranglers.
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I think they all kinda tard wrangled each other. Caped Crusader, Justice League Infinity, and JL vs The Fatal Five all had multiple members of the old crew involved and none of them were very good. imo JL: Gods and Monsters got the last tiny bit of whatever fairy dust the DCAU had.

As for who should be in charge, I say wait until Superman and Batman enter public domain and hope some random person does something decent somehow.
 
Giga_Nigga_28 said:
Member when Dc had tons of content running? And not just Batman, Losh, the Krypto cartoon, Brave and Bold, Gl:tas, the animated movie adaptations. What happened.
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Basic Blond Boy said:
DC Nation flopped, unfortunately, pushing them away from animation.

The block was heavily held back by Cartoon Network and placed at a rather terrible time for a block that catered more towards older audiences. The Saturday morning time slot was a rough one for viewership and should have been placed during CN's Friday Night action cartoon block instead.

Additionally, neither of the two shows made for the block were able to sustain it as they both had grey areas that made them flop. Green Lantern is obvious in how the Ryan Reynolds movie tanked any marketing opportunity for it as no one wanted merchandise based on the movie. Young Justice was able to garner a very strong viewership, but its demographics didn't align with CN and WB's marketing of 7-10 year old boys, leaning more older and, by the creators admission, more female than expected. By the time Beware the Batman appeared, it was far too late, not that BtB would have done much.
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Sorry to come back to this, but this may also explain it...

As easy as it is to blame WB for DC's direction, there is probably an equal argument that DC and its content were way ahead of their times, much to their detriment.

The American industry for merchandising is extremely shit, living off a rigid structure dating back decades ago of who and what they can make products for. I remember bringing this up in the Western Animation thread, but the lack of structure to market to adults, opposite sex or in this case demographics has been a large killer of so many of these IPs, regardless of the work put in. America really needed more flexibility like Japan and its extensive marketing empire for anime/manga/video games, but never fully evolved to it.

In the case of DC, their demographics for the cartoons were way to diverse for America to handle. Young Justice teetering too far into female or older territory is a death sentence when product companies "get weary" of how they can sell superheroes to such a demographic. In the above video, Static Shock couldn't get the proper funding as manufacturers refused to create any toy lines for it. Blacks weren't a market they were interested in, and likely didn't know how to approach.

There used to be a rumor regarding Teen Titans Go backing this up. Warner, coming off the heals of two Titans style shows that had unpredictable demographics, opted to just contain everything to younger kids to avoid the bullshit. It also explains why Wonder Woman has had multiple cancelled projects, they likely couldn't sell the IP as it involving a girl protagonist meant it was removed from the boy market, but the superhero part likely also ripped her out of the girl market.
 
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Basic Blond Boy said:
There used to be a rumor regarding Teen Titans Go backing this up. Warner, coming off the heals of two Titans style shows that had unpredictable demographics, opted to just contain everything to younger kids to avoid the bullshit.
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Twelve years.

Twelve uninterrupted years of that show, literally 4 times the lifespan of the original.

I want to die.
 
Could it be that current writers are incompetent and no longer can put out the quality content of the past? Batman: Caped Crusader had an interesting premise hard to fuck up... And it fails in every level, from length, to quality, to action scenes, to characters, to excessive pozz, etc.
Or how The Batman from 2018's plot works only if Bats is retarded and doesn't know what bat means in Spanish, even when explicitly screamed at his face.
 
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