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fucking roasted
I just find it interesting. I don't really give a shit but I want to put it out there.
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Oh, that dismissal was directed at 505, not so much yourself. Apologies for the confusion.
No, there's definitely always comedic potential when Big Money wants to make streamers with vaginas into Wonder Woman clones. The last time that happened we got the Bullyhunters and good god in heaven was that a pure joy to watch unfold.
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Not sure I can give enough of a fuck with these manufactured movements, especially when this one is to cover up another Epic exclusive.
This shows the entire thing is bait, and people are biting as hard as they can to help make "Gamers are still sexist but this time against the Epic Games Store" headlines.
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shield marketing - use a preferred group as your face so when your shit product or decisions are attacked blame your attackers for attacking the "face" and being meanies.
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And it works almost every time because people are dumb.
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They believe they are beyond base human needs and expects everyones to believe that. That we need tobspend every moment tackling social issues or the right will use entertainment to opiate the masses to complacency
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tl;dr REEEEEEEEEEEESIST
But seriously, this is just an anti-Trump propaganda game masquerading as a "deep" WWII game about the Nazis. Maybe it might be a nice concept if the devs weren't winking at you every second saying "Just like in Trump's America!" We all know these pretentious douchebags would've been Nazis had they lived in Nazi Germany, they wouldn't be resisting shit.
But seriously, this is just an anti-Trump propaganda game masquerading as a "deep" WWII game about the Nazis. Maybe it might be a nice concept if the devs weren't winking at you every second saying "Just like in Trump's America!" We all know these pretentious douchebags would've been Nazis had they lived in Nazi Germany, they wouldn't be resisting shit.
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I can't say I agree. "Sane people" may not look to video games and historical films for lessons but the masses do. Stuff advertised as historical should at least make an attempt at accuracy so that people at least don't have a warped understanding of a past event.
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It'd be cool if devs made videos like this from different perspectives. Imagine a video talking about the humiliation of ww1 and a bunch of Nazi stuff. It'd really set the mood.
There has been plenty of excellent books on Nazi soldiers getting de-nazified as the war progressed so they could basically just plagiarize one of those. It'd be a real good history lesson and a pretty interesting story...
oh wait.. Nazis are Nazis because of their genetics, nvm.
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I can't say I agree. "Sane people" may not look to video games and historical films for lessons but the masses do. Stuff advertised as historical should at least make an attempt at accuracy so that people at least don't have a warped understanding of a past event.
Anyway,
Call Of Duty: World At War - Intro
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It'd be cool if devs made videos like this from different perspectives. Imagine a video talking about the humiliation of ww1 and a bunch of Nazi stuff. It'd really set the mood.
There has been plenty of excellent books on Nazi soldiers getting de-nazified as the war progressed so they could basically just plagiarize one of those. It'd be a real good history lesson and a pretty interesting story...
oh wait.. Nazis are Nazis because of their genetics, nvm.
But what if I want my unapologetic axis war atrocity simulator?
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Bummer, I guess that game is sunk, not that the Epic exclusive deal was helping.
This might be Prey 2017 all over again, a good game that was harmed by some SJW flavoring that didn't really affect the game much, but still kept people away.
It's a shame because I love Remedy and was interested, but I knew from when the game was announced and I saw the female protagonist they would probably go this route, these modern "strong female characters" are so fucking boring and played out.
Because they are completely miserable people unable to keep up the pretense of being anything otherwise anymore and they want everyone to be as miserable as they are.
It's why feminists hate sexy female characters so much, they're jealous and insecure about themselves so they hate them and don't want anyone else to enjoy them either.
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I guess this is the best place to put this. I usually don't go on these long form rants, but I feel like doing this one:
So, I expressed a lot of stuff in the ResetEra thread about the Ion Fury stuff. Short version being this will likely negatively impact Voidpoint going forward and how this could affect future content/games, if any, from them to be worse than would be otherwise if this hadn't gone the way it did.
So the other day I tried to discuss this in a private group ran by someone I loosely knew. I already knew he had a few quirks about him when it came to opinions on games, but he was always pretty chill. Was. But I tried to discuss this and express essentially what I posted above, "All of this was shitty and shouldn't have happened, now Voidpoint is paying for it and, potentially, so is any future content of theirs".
I am immediately tackled by him focusing solely on the reviewbombing by fans while dismissing everything else, calling gamers whiny babies, and when I remarked how it was as if he read nothing, he immediately starts on this almost bullet point dismissal of it all. "Sensitivity training? Please it'll just be a few minute session and slap on the wrist.", "Forced to donate ten thousand dollars? That's feel good pocket change, doesn't matter.", "They operate in a professional capacity, they shouldn't speak their personal opinions, but since they did, they're deserving of all of the outcome except the reviewbombings by baby gamers", etc, etc. He then proceeds to call my personal opinion that none of it should've happened immature.
I want to believe he was taking a centrist stance of sorts, but this is someone whose game discussions focus on one or two franchises, otherwise it's him talking about how dogshit Bloodstained apparently is for the nth time, or another of the dozens of "Skyrim bad, Morrowind/Daggerfall good" circlejerks he initiates. He's even openly stated that most modern games don't interest him at all, but he tries to act like some moral and technical authority on what's good and what's bad, and what's okay to do in the industry.
It's not quite Era's level of asinine, but it's close enough that I wonder "why the fuck do you act like an authority on stuff you don't even care about?". And I feel like this kind of dismissive attitude and viewpoint, that devs not lockstepping to just "make game, sell game, stay silent" and daring to even so much as voice their personal opinions deserve punishment, without even caring about the hardships a dev is going through, is a major negative facet of today's industry.
So, I expressed a lot of stuff in the ResetEra thread about the Ion Fury stuff. Short version being this will likely negatively impact Voidpoint going forward and how this could affect future content/games, if any, from them to be worse than would be otherwise if this hadn't gone the way it did.
So the other day I tried to discuss this in a private group ran by someone I loosely knew. I already knew he had a few quirks about him when it came to opinions on games, but he was always pretty chill. Was. But I tried to discuss this and express essentially what I posted above, "All of this was shitty and shouldn't have happened, now Voidpoint is paying for it and, potentially, so is any future content of theirs".
I am immediately tackled by him focusing solely on the reviewbombing by fans while dismissing everything else, calling gamers whiny babies, and when I remarked how it was as if he read nothing, he immediately starts on this almost bullet point dismissal of it all. "Sensitivity training? Please it'll just be a few minute session and slap on the wrist.", "Forced to donate ten thousand dollars? That's feel good pocket change, doesn't matter.", "They operate in a professional capacity, they shouldn't speak their personal opinions, but since they did, they're deserving of all of the outcome except the reviewbombings by baby gamers", etc, etc. He then proceeds to call my personal opinion that none of it should've happened immature.
I want to believe he was taking a centrist stance of sorts, but this is someone whose game discussions focus on one or two franchises, otherwise it's him talking about how dogshit Bloodstained apparently is for the nth time, or another of the dozens of "Skyrim bad, Morrowind/Daggerfall good" circlejerks he initiates. He's even openly stated that most modern games don't interest him at all, but he tries to act like some moral and technical authority on what's good and what's bad, and what's okay to do in the industry.
It's not quite Era's level of asinine, but it's close enough that I wonder "why the fuck do you act like an authority on stuff you don't even care about?". And I feel like this kind of dismissive attitude and viewpoint, that devs not lockstepping to just "make game, sell game, stay silent" and daring to even so much as voice their personal opinions deserve punishment, without even caring about the hardships a dev is going through, is a major negative facet of today's industry.
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The entire "GAMERS ARE SO ENTITLED" shit started specifically because of journalists wanting to protect their buddies from criticism, and unfortunately, a lot of people have bought into it. Most of the time it's part of an attempt to rationalize their position but as you've seen, rationality rarely has much to do with it.
While I obviously can't say what motivated your acquaintance, it's very possible that he just buys into that narrative uncritically. The biggest reason for that isn't due to anything sinister; it's that these people, despite being fringe, delude themselves into thinking they're the mainstream. They aren't. But it's easier for them to believe everyone else is insane then that they are.
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Imagine actually writing a paragrah on culture war shit in current year.
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Yeah that sounds about right. Unrelated to games, but short version, he's not very self-aware. The few times I called him out so far he genuinely seemed confused like he didn't know what the fuck I was even talking about. Though, he's unironically made statements like "You don't need to know modern stuff to be able to criticize it". I agree with freedom of expression, but I prefer people to actually know what they're talking about.
More ontopic, I feel like a faggot for saying this because I don't want to believe it myself, but part of me thinks it's the passive majority like that who are enabling these types of incidents to keep happening, because they really just don't care unless they're the ones with the opinion.
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Take heart: That isn't the case.
If it was, more of gaming would be like the Wii market was: Overwhelmed with normies buying into flash-in-the-pan (and VR would certainly be more than the wet fart it is currently). Things have changed, and the smarter devs are realizing that the big money comes from making their customers happy. Contrary to Epic's insistence, the EGS hasn't taken over despite Fortnite's prevalence, further demonstrating this.
A common misconception, one born of the likes of Madden, is that Gamers will buy any shit thrown in front of them. This is not the case. There's only so much they'll tolerate, and then they vote with their wallet. The fucksteaks behind Mass Effect: Andromeda learned this the hard way, even if you completely discounted the fact that the game was loaded with Social Justice retardation and had all the polish of Warsaw's Presidential Palace in 1942. Going in, no one wanted the fucking thing, and no amount of stumping by the journo class was going to make it happen.
Clickbait's dying off, and gaming as a whole is slowly starting to find its feet after a very lengthy dark age wherein misinformation was basically everywhere. It's going to get worse before it gets better, but things are generally moving in a better direction now. There's still issues of censorship and corporate shittery to deal with, but things have certainly gotten better over time. Time will tell if things truly improve, but I'm patiently optimistic.
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If anything kept people away from Prey 2017 it was improper marketing (many many people assumed it was related to another game franchise with the same name) on top of it being an already very niche kind of game.
Admittedly there was an unusual abundance of gay relationships in Prey that kinda makes me roll my eyes but it honestly took me a minute to remember them when I read your post trying to think what exactly was "SJW" about Prey. I feel that they earned a pass on it though in a way that other games often don't by having every person on Talos 1 be a character with a role on the station and a personality outside of just "gay" though. Other than that I can't imagine what about the game could be considered "SJW" and I don't for a second think that having like 4 gay characters (6 I guess if you picked the female player character) in the game "harmed" it in any way.
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It was veeeeeeeery mild but it was there, the abundance of gay relationships being one of the more standout examples, but also just how odd looking some of the female characters were and the fact that, I'm sorry to say, the protagonist isn't white, don't think that decision doesn't have political baggage in this day and age.
But there were also some other things like the fact that some of the crew members were playing a tabletop RPG, SJWs love tabletop RPGs for some reason, ya know, little details like that.
None of it was major, none of it detracted from the game and none of it really bothered me in any way on a personal level, I still loved the game, but it was stuff I picked up on and I do think it hurt the game's sales, the vast majority of gamers hate SJW culture, a lot of games have been flopping in recent years because they're made in that style.
But really, it had no business being a reboot of a different franchise, that was probably the main thing that sunk it, it should have been it's own thing.
It's a real shame because it's a fantastic game.
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Right now, an interesting thing is starting to happen in Vidya journalism; basically the same thing happening to everywhere else with clickbait journalism - that nobody goes to these sites to read about politics and feminism; they go there to read about fucking video games. They basically polluted the waters to the point where the market for what they're selling is now dangerously oversaturated and starting to collapse. People don't go to hobby sites to read about fucking politics and feminism; they go there to read about their fucking hobbies, and the fact that they can means they're avoiding these sites like the ass cancer they are.
They're dying out - which is great for the industry in general.
The main issue we have right now, going into [CURRENT YEAR] is the unholy union of Social Justice and Corporatism, and good god are these two ideologies fucking compatible. You need look no further than Games Journalists claiming any opposition to the Epic Game Store is racist for a great example of that shit. The good news, however, is that the PC gaming crowd has proven willing to fuck those that offend it rather publicly in the ass (as evidenced by Ion Fury recently) so while things are still rough, it's getting harder and harder for the powers that be to get away with particularly egregious shit without backlash.
The big threats here are games-as-service and streaming game services, but considering how hard Stadia's failing and how bad the gaming community punched Microsoft in the dick over always-online shit, I fancy our chances.
They're dying out - which is great for the industry in general.
The main issue we have right now, going into [CURRENT YEAR] is the unholy union of Social Justice and Corporatism, and good god are these two ideologies fucking compatible. You need look no further than Games Journalists claiming any opposition to the Epic Game Store is racist for a great example of that shit. The good news, however, is that the PC gaming crowd has proven willing to fuck those that offend it rather publicly in the ass (as evidenced by Ion Fury recently) so while things are still rough, it's getting harder and harder for the powers that be to get away with particularly egregious shit without backlash.
The big threats here are games-as-service and streaming game services, but considering how hard Stadia's failing and how bad the gaming community punched Microsoft in the dick over always-online shit, I fancy our chances.