Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

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Yeah, there was this enormous marketing blitz at the time where they would slap the Star Wars logo and promotional pictures of the nuWars characters all over absolutely every product possible. Well, except for refrigerators and ovens, which was for Rise of Skywalker. Either GE thought that a Star Wars tie in would sell more fridges or Disney thought that the whole "Disney mom" segment was their new Star Wars consumer.
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I'm glad that shit was mostly for the first three shitty Disney Star Wars movies, since it seems like Soylo and Rise of Soywalker didn't have nearly the promotional blitz. The craziest part is I was seeing those ads for months and months after the movies came out on my food.

I don't get it at all, like Hollywood has all these bullshit ways to save money (like using bottom of the barrel scriptwriters hence why movies suck these days) but then they'll pay to slap Soy Wars shit onto half the shit in the grocery store. How many people are actually being convinced, even subliminally, to see their shitty movie from that?

Mexico banned cartoon mascots with that excuse. No Chester Cheeta, no Tony the tiger, etc. The products can still be sold, they just have to change the packaging.

I am pretty sure its not the only country were that kind of marketing on food products is regulated. I am generally pro-free market type of person but even i agree the stuff that is directed at kids is insidious and a lot of it should't be a thing. Everyone like to shit on Mcdonalds for example, but my one gripe with them is the Disney deals and the insane ammount of marketing they do for kids. It seems absurd to allow so much media manipulation directed at a demographic that is not even supposed to make their own nutrional choices.

Yes, it's very likely a contributing effect on the obesity epidemic. I remember as a kid 20 years ago they showed ads for junk like Pop-Tarts Hostess shit, McDonalds happy meals, etc. all the time. While I don't agree with full-on nanny state bullshit like banning McDonalds, I think there's a clear benefit in not having kids being bombarded by commercials for products likely to reduce their lifespan via obesity, diabetes, etc. The fact of the matter is that kids aren't smart enough (and many parents dumb enough) to really grasp the implication of what they're putting into their bodies.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I'm glad that shit was mostly for the first three shitty Disney Star Wars movies, since it seems like Soylo and Rise of Soywalker didn't have nearly the promotional blitz. The craziest part is I was seeing those ads for months and months after the movies came out on my food.

I don't get it at all, like Hollywood has all these bullshit ways to save money (like using bottom of the barrel scriptwriters hence why movies suck these days) but then they'll pay to slap Soy Wars shit onto half the shit in the grocery store. How many people are actually being convinced, even subliminally, to see their shitty movie from that?

Yes, it's very likely a contributing effect on the obesity epidemic. I remember as a kid 20 years ago they showed ads for junk like Pop-Tarts Hostess shit, McDonalds happy meals, etc. all the time. While I don't agree with full-on nanny state bullshit like banning McDonalds, I think there's a clear benefit in not having kids being bombarded by commercials for products likely to reduce their lifespan via obesity, diabetes, etc. The fact of the matter is that kids aren't smart enough (and many parents dumb enough) to really grasp the implication of what they're putting into their bodies.

Every corporation under the sun wants to create emotional attachment in kids when they still in early development, of course they will develop weird attachments and be more likely to develop bad habits if they attach positive feelings to junk food and brands.Its perverse.

Even the most responsible parent will have troubles because it is a bombardment on all sides, there's even such a thing in marketing as the "nagging factor", If even adults are vulnerable for manipulation and propaganda children are basically defenseless.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I don't get it at all, like Hollywood has all these bullshit ways to save money (like using bottom of the barrel scriptwriters hence why movies suck these days) but then they'll pay to slap Soy Wars shit onto half the shit in the grocery store. How many people are actually being convinced, even subliminally, to see their shitty movie from that?

The movies made money, and I think this thread has proven that advertising succeeds where producing a quality good fails.

 

[Yaks]

The movies made money, and I think this thread has proven that advertising succeeds where producing a quality good fails.

To an extent for sure. Corporations like Disney though want long term brand loyalty to their franchises, but the new Star Wars doesn't have that type of loyalty that the old nerds for the originals (hell even the prequels) have. They're figuring out slowly that the left leaning childless millennials they're trying to cater to do not have franchise obsession due to an over saturation of media. It'll be popular for a moment, then ultimately forgotten.

 

[Lady Bizness]

I really hate the idea that flooring has now become something you replace every few years, like Ikea furniture. Things like "vinyl tile" are so wasteful, stores shouldn't even be allowed to sell home supplies that won't still look decent after 20 years of normal use. Renovations should be because things look a bit old and worn, not shitshack-ed. It's just another way to push the cost of housing sky high.
Anyway, enjoy this plastic sticker tile nightmare I found on Home Depot's website. Going down?
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I feel you so much on this, and fuck Home Depot. I remember going to Lumberjack with my dad when I was a little girl and there were just bins of nails, nuts, bolts and washers that you'd buy by weight and you could find any weird-ass part you needed. Sure, it might have taken up shelf space for a year, but at least it was in stock on the off chance someone needed it.
Now at Home Depot everything comes in a little clamshell or plastic tub, and only a few select items can be bought out of a sliding drawer. If a particular item doesn't move daily, they ain't carrying it. The store is mostly useless. Isles are clogged with impulse item shit that doesn't belong in a hardware and home improvement store. But brainless people buy this crap so bottom line, of course the stores are going to dedicate space to it. But at what point does it become not a hardware store anymore? Market forces can be so frustrating. The same phenomena is apparent in craft stores. The front half of the store is all home decor pre-made crap, and also off-theme items like phone chargers and earbuds. When you get to the actual crafting and art supplies most of it is junk quality, trendy crafting systems, or poor variety of choices.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

I feel you so much on this, and fuck Home Depot. I remember going to Lumberjack with my dad when I was a little girl and there were just bins of nails, nuts, bolts and washers that you'd buy by weight and you could find any weird-ass part you needed. Sure, it might have taken up shelf space for a year, but at least it was in stock on the off chance someone needed it.

Now at Home Depot everything comes in a little clamshell or plastic tub, and only a few select items can be bought out of a sliding drawer. If a particular item doesn't move daily, they ain't carrying it. The store is mostly useless. Isles are clogged with impulse item shit that doesn't belong in a hardware and home improvement store. But brainless people buy this crap so bottom line, of course the stores are going to dedicate space to it. But at what point does it become not a hardware store anymore? Market forces can be so frustrating. The same phenomena is apparent in craft stores. The front half of the store is all home decor pre-made crap, and also off-theme items like phone chargers and earbuds. When you get to the actual crafting and art supplies most of it is junk quality, trendy crafting systems, or poor variety of choices.

Tractor supply and rural king are two chains with fasteners by the pound. If you aren't a shut in, check out your local hardware store. I have a hydraulic parts store that had a super obscure metric cable aglet for a project where I didn't have time to buy the part online, and then they just gave me a baggie of them for free. They have popcorn and good advice too. No plastic garden fuckers or whatever tool people buy to make themselves feel handy.

Also the Lowes here is really understaffed and full of screaming babies on a Saturday. I love going to a store where I'm the only customer at the counter

Sorry to double post, but I just booted up YouTube mobile to this advertisement:

What the fuck is this. I don't watch anime I don't watch porn why do I get ads like this? I know it wouldn't show up on my screen unless they thought it would work. I even have my ad tracking turned off, so I guess this is what most of the world sees? Jesus I just want to watch this guy install a catalytic converter

 

[Lady Bizness]

Tractor supply and rural king are two chains with fasteners by the pound. If you aren't a shut in, check out your local hardware store. I have a hydraulic parts store that had a super obscure metric cable aglet for a project where I didn't have time to buy the part online, and then they just gave me a baggie of them for free. They have popcorn and good advice too. No plastic garden fuckers or whatever tool people buy to make themselves feel handy.

Also the Lowes here is really understaffed and full of screaming babies on a Saturday. I love going to a store where I'm the only customer at the counter

Luckily we have a few local places that cater to construction workers and landscapers that we use. They have hours that don't work for me too often and one of them isn't really open to the public but my husband knows the guy so, lucky us I guess!

 

[Gamercat]

Sorry to double post, but I just booted up YouTube mobile to this advertisement:
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What the fuck is this. I don't watch anime I don't watch porn why do I get ads like this? I know it wouldn't show up on my screen unless they thought it would work. I even have my ad tracking turned off, so I guess this is what most of the world sees? Jesus I just want to watch this guy install a catalytic converter

you haven't seen the worse of youtube sidebar ads

 

[Torque Wheeler]

you haven't seen the worse of youtube sidebar ads

The woman is literally in chains and it looks like a sex game. How much worse could it possibly get I'm intrigued

 

[Gamercat]

The woman is literally in chains and it looks like a sex game. How much worse could it possibly get I'm intrigued

Spoiler: some nsfw

yeah.

 

[Pissmaster]

The woman is literally in chains and it looks like a sex game. How much worse could it possibly get I'm intrigued

I've seen a bunch of them too. For how much YouTube proselytizes about being a safe platform for children, the ads they deliver are full of blatant scams and sexual shit.

I thought about making a thread about these at one point but never got around to it, but not without screenshotting every single weird one I see:



(this is a joke vaporware game console headed by a scumbag that has its own thread here on the farms)





one time I even got an ad for gay niggers

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

To an extent for sure. Corporations like Disney though want long term brand loyalty to their franchises, but the new Star Wars doesn't have that type of loyalty that the old nerds for the originals (hell even the prequels) have. They're figuring out slowly that the left leaning childless millennials they're trying to cater to do not have franchise obsession due to an over saturation of media. It'll be popular for a moment, then ultimately forgotten.

Yep, and that's a big part of the reason why Disney may be out of business or at the very least drastically cut back within the next twenty years, at least as a media company. Although when it comes to Star Wars it's a weird story, The Force Awakens was widely beloved by both newcomers and old fans alike and even people who were critical of it generally considered the film mediocre and underwhelming rather than outright bad. Rogue One was popularly considered the best film in the series since The Empire Strikes Back (I have maintained since it came out that film is garbage and you should feel duped for liking it) but it also made a shitload of money. It was only with Solo that the cracks started to show and then The Last Jedi completely and irreparably torpedoed the entire franchise and soured a lot of people on not just Star Wars but on Disney as a whole. Then Rise of Skywalker was the cinematic equivalent of a wet fart and the Galaxy's Edge park opened simultaneously too late to cash in on the renewed Star Wars hype and too soon to be fully ready and ironed out, not that it ever goes smoothly when Disney unveils a new park or new land but so Galaxy's Edge has been a bomb and Disney has exposed just what a clusterfuck they are at every level.

TL;DR: Disney's handling of Star Wars didn't really show signs of being the abject failure it turned into until a few years after they bought the property.

EDIT: I'm retarded and forgot that Solo came out after The Last Jedi I'm not gonna go back and rewrite everything but basically TLJ was one of the worst films of the entire decade and then Solo finished digging the grave.

 

[a very special boy]

the new Star Wars doesn't have that type of loyalty that the old nerds for the originals

It's astonishing how popular and successful the MCU is with this demographic compared to the utter failure of modern Star Wars. I don't think I know a single person who saw TRoS in cinema.

Disney unveils a new park or new land but so Galaxy's Edge has been a bomb

At least it'll make a good Defunctland video in 10 years.

 

[Gar For Archer]

It's astonishing how popular and successful the MCU is with this demographic compared to the utter failure of modern Star Wars. I don't think I know a single person who saw TRoS in cinema.


At least it'll make a good Defunctland video in 10 years.

When it came out, the MCU was legitimately a new idea that nobody had successfully done before, and pre-Endgame, even the “bad” movies were merely sorta mediocre rather than completely unwatchable. It was simultaneously easy to get into due to the majority of the movies being standalone, while still having an immediate overarching plot that kept people coming back.

This is the biggest issue they face KEEPING the MCU relevant post-Thanos: everything is getting too interconnected, and it’s going to be really hard to believably raise the stakes when they already blew their load on wiping out half the universe.

 

[fenny]

Endgame killed my interest in the franchise with time travel. Maybe they address it in the tv series I didn't watch, but having time travel and now parallel universes as an option makes everything that happens feel arbitrary. Iron Man is totally Dead For Real, while Gamora didn't even stay a corpse for a whole movie, and Loki gets a tv show. How do you give a fuck about the characters when it so obviously comes down to who is tired of the role or wants too much money to work with? I saw literally every movie in theater with my dad because it was our thing, now I can't be bothered to let something stream as background noise while I do laundry.

Tldr Time travel kills consoomerism, I guess.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

It's astonishing how popular and successful the MCU is with this demographic compared to the utter failure of modern Star Wars. I don't think I know a single person who saw TRoS in cinema.

I think the difference is twofold:

1) Very few Disney Marvel fans are comic book readers or comic book fans and they only know the Disney movies, most long time comic fans have been highly critical of Disney Marvel more or less since the beginning, at least the ones I know. Star Wars was always a movie franchise and so the old guard are fans of one of the most globally popular movie franchises of all time.

2) The number of comic fans is teeny tiny and so even their most scathing criticism is a very small voice and most people are going to shrug their shoulders and say something along the lines of "Who cares? Comic books are stupid anyways, remember that time Spider Man gave Mary Jane cervical cancer with his radioactive spider spunk? Do you want them to do that storyline too?"

At least it'll make a good Defunctland video in 10 years.

When it came out, the MCU was legitimately a new idea that nobody had successfully done before, and pre-Endgame, even the “bad” movies were merely sorta mediocre rather than completely unwatchable. It was simultaneously easy to get into due to the majority of the movies being standalone, while still having an immediate overarching plot that kept people coming back.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that, the majority of the movies were boring and mediocre since the beginning and the really good ones could only ever achieve the level of "stupid but fun the first time". Plus, the release schedule was brutal since everything being interconnected made me feel like I was being assigned homework just to understand what the fuck was going on. So I can't just watch The Avengers and then immediately go to watch The Avengers: Age of Ultron? What do you mean I need to watch four or five more Marvel movies and a television show? What the fuck? I hate when any form of media does this, but with movies it feels extra stupid since the point of a movie is to be self contained.

Endgame killed my interest in the franchise with time travel. Maybe they address it in the tv series I didn't watch, but having time travel and now parallel universes as an option makes everything that happens feel arbitrary. Iron Man is totally Dead For Real, while Gamora didn't even stay a corpse for a whole movie, and Loki gets a tv show. How do you give a fuck about the characters when it so obviously comes down to who is tired of the role or wants too much money to work with? I saw literally every movie in theater with my dad because it was our thing, now I can't be bothered to let something stream as background noise while I do laundry.

Tldr Time travel kills consoomerism, I guess.

Case in point.

 

[Gar For Archer]

I think the difference is twofold:

1) Very few Disney Marvel fans are comic book readers or comic book fans and they only know the Disney movies, most long time comic fans have been highly critical of Disney Marvel more or less since the beginning, at least the ones I know. Star Wars was always a movie franchise and so the old guard are fans of one of the most globally popular movie franchises of all time.

2) The number of comic fans is teeny tiny and so even their most scathing criticism is a very small voice and most people are going to shrug their shoulders and say something along the lines of "Who cares? Comic books are stupid anyways, remember that time Spider Man gave Mary Jane cervical cancer with his radioactive spider spunk? Do you want them to do that storyline too?"



I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that, the majority of the movies were boring and mediocre since the beginning and the really good ones could only ever achieve the level of "stupid but fun the first time". Plus, the release schedule was brutal since everything being interconnected made me feel like I was being assigned homework just to understand what the fuck was going on. So I can't just watch The Avengers and then immediately go to watch The Avengers: Age of Ultron? What do you mean I need to watch four or five more Marvel movies and a television show? What the fuck? I hate when any form of media does this, but with movies it feels extra stupid since the point of a movie is to be self contained.

Case in point.

I really don’t care that you dare to hold the highly brave and controversial opinion that Marvel movies are garbage, I’m just explaining why they became so fucking popular.

Yeah no fucking shit some people didn’t like them, but a lot of people DID, for the reasons I described.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I really don’t care that you dare to hold the highly brave and controversial opinion that Marvel movies are garbage, I’m just explaining why they became so fucking popular.

Yeah no fucking shit some people didn’t like them, but a lot of people DID, for the reasons I described.

Fair enough.

 

[quaawaa]

The Force Awakens was widely beloved by both newcomers and old fans alike and even people who were critical of it generally considered the film mediocre and underwhelming rather than outright bad.

The Force Awakens was outright bad. All of the main characters’ actors are terrible and struggle to show emotion. The plot is bad: the main characters are trying to find a map to Luke Skywalker for reasons and need to blow up the Death Star, but this time it is planet sized and destroys entire solar systems instead of single planets. The dialogue is cringe, the plot is nonsensical and the main character is an unlikeable Mary Sue.

Rogue One is a forgettable mediocre movie and it is only hyped up because it was the least bad of the Disney movies and people desperately wanted some good new Star Wars content.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

To an extent for sure. Corporations like Disney though want long term brand loyalty to their franchises, but the new Star Wars doesn't have that type of loyalty that the old nerds for the originals (hell even the prequels) have. They're figuring out slowly that the left leaning childless millennials they're trying to cater to do not have franchise obsession due to an over saturation of media. It'll be popular for a moment, then ultimately forgotten.

They mistakenly thought that the fanbase would stay loyal, even if they took a sack of dogshit, scrawled Star Wars on it in sharpie, and threw it out there. They thought that they can do whatever to attract the childless Disney consoomer millennial group, and the fans would stick around anyway.