Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!
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There are tons of these:
Side note, you can't search "TikTok" + "Haul" without getting tons of these as well:
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Ah yes i remember R/lifting and liftblr
Those were the times. Blogs would pop up, give really sophisticated advice (not everything was: go in the restrooms, those people had material) then go under or post long texts about getting caught.
Sounds like the community on tiktok hasn't reach it's peak yet.
It's wild that those kids keep posting receipts on themselves. We can see their faces in some of those videos.
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Oh boy, designer handbags. Behold my autism.
I've been following a few designer handbag spaces for a while of both the real and fake variety. I'm probably fairly unique within this thread in that I don't give a single flying fuck if someone has a fake handbag so long as its not an amazingly shitty Canal Street tier fake, since with more and more designer brands making their shit in China and putting the finishing touches on it in France/Italy or underpaying Chinese people in the brand's home country to make their stuff, the lines between real bags and high quality fakes begin to blur anyway. Can you tell which of these Chanel bags is the fake one?
Part of making a fake bag look good is a) not overdoing it with multiple branded pieces with super prominent logos and b) choosing a fake that is vaguely proportional to your means if you really care about not getting called out. The closest thing I have to a designer handbag is a £50 Jasper Conran crossbody my mom got me from Debenhams but if I were to get a fake designer handbag it would have to be something where the price of the authentic would be hard to buy but still vaguely obtainable. Take the Balenciaga city for example, they cost between £1,250 and £1,750, so if I could find a good quality fake one people could plausibly believe its real since I could maybe afford something like that with a lot of saving up. But I'd never carry a fake Birkin because they cost like 20k and no-one in their right mind would believe its real. You also have to be willing to shell out the money for a good quality fake and even without the obscene 4-5 digit designer markup they're often still a few hundos.
That said, though...
Consoomerism is as much of a problem in with fake handbags as it is with real ones. The fact that fakes are less expensive than authentic bags means people are more likely to treat them like fast fashion. r/Repladies there are numerous posts about placing oneself on "Ban Island" because they have too many fake bags. They get brownie points for being self aware. But it confuses the fuck out of me when people buy eleventy gajillion fake handbags. Since good ones cost a few hundred, chances are by the time they've accumulated so many they'll have enough for an authentic one anyway. Although I have heard of people who will get authentic versions of the more timeless bags and fakes of less versatile colours or the flavour-of-the-month trend ones so as to be able to engage with trends without bankrupting themselves.
Ban Island is not a new concept however. Richer people in authentic-only designer handbag spaces such as Purseforum talk about exactly the same thing., with discussions about "ban island" and "purse peace" (ie: being content enough with your handbag collection to not want to buy any more).
I'm sure a lot of people in this thread have already posted youtubers with enough handbags to buy a house. There was this one called Minks4All back in the day who only bought a house because she got doxed on Gurugossiper and they found out she lived in a trailer despite owning 100k+ worth of authentic designer handbags. She lives in an actual house now though.
(This video was made in 2017. She probably has MORE now)
People who consoom hundreds of handbags, real or fake, confuse the fuck outta me. You can only wear one at a time, transferring all your stuff from one bag to another is a hassle. Where do you even put them all?
Also Hermes bags are literally just gacha for rich people. You have to buy a load of random stuff that you don't even want to build up a "purchasing history" after which if the sales assistant likes you they might deign to "offer" you a bag, and you don't get to pick the size and colour or anything. But at least you get physical items instead of jpegs of waifus I suppose.
I've been following a few designer handbag spaces for a while of both the real and fake variety. I'm probably fairly unique within this thread in that I don't give a single flying fuck if someone has a fake handbag so long as its not an amazingly shitty Canal Street tier fake, since with more and more designer brands making their shit in China and putting the finishing touches on it in France/Italy or underpaying Chinese people in the brand's home country to make their stuff, the lines between real bags and high quality fakes begin to blur anyway. Can you tell which of these Chanel bags is the fake one?
Part of making a fake bag look good is a) not overdoing it with multiple branded pieces with super prominent logos and b) choosing a fake that is vaguely proportional to your means if you really care about not getting called out. The closest thing I have to a designer handbag is a £50 Jasper Conran crossbody my mom got me from Debenhams but if I were to get a fake designer handbag it would have to be something where the price of the authentic would be hard to buy but still vaguely obtainable. Take the Balenciaga city for example, they cost between £1,250 and £1,750, so if I could find a good quality fake one people could plausibly believe its real since I could maybe afford something like that with a lot of saving up. But I'd never carry a fake Birkin because they cost like 20k and no-one in their right mind would believe its real. You also have to be willing to shell out the money for a good quality fake and even without the obscene 4-5 digit designer markup they're often still a few hundos.
That said, though...
Consoomerism is as much of a problem in with fake handbags as it is with real ones. The fact that fakes are less expensive than authentic bags means people are more likely to treat them like fast fashion. r/Repladies there are numerous posts about placing oneself on "Ban Island" because they have too many fake bags. They get brownie points for being self aware. But it confuses the fuck out of me when people buy eleventy gajillion fake handbags. Since good ones cost a few hundred, chances are by the time they've accumulated so many they'll have enough for an authentic one anyway. Although I have heard of people who will get authentic versions of the more timeless bags and fakes of less versatile colours or the flavour-of-the-month trend ones so as to be able to engage with trends without bankrupting themselves.
Ban Island is not a new concept however. Richer people in authentic-only designer handbag spaces such as Purseforum talk about exactly the same thing., with discussions about "ban island" and "purse peace" (ie: being content enough with your handbag collection to not want to buy any more).
I'm sure a lot of people in this thread have already posted youtubers with enough handbags to buy a house. There was this one called Minks4All back in the day who only bought a house because she got doxed on Gurugossiper and they found out she lived in a trailer despite owning 100k+ worth of authentic designer handbags. She lives in an actual house now though.
People who consoom hundreds of handbags, real or fake, confuse the fuck outta me. You can only wear one at a time, transferring all your stuff from one bag to another is a hassle. Where do you even put them all?
Also Hermes bags are literally just gacha for rich people. You have to buy a load of random stuff that you don't even want to build up a "purchasing history" after which if the sales assistant likes you they might deign to "offer" you a bag, and you don't get to pick the size and colour or anything. But at least you get physical items instead of jpegs of waifus I suppose.
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I recently bought a swiss watch and during my dive into that subculture I discovered the same thing. I actually ended up going with an Omega because Rolex does the same shit to its customers. People on boards like r/rolex post constantly asking about how they can increase their odds of getting a coveted model if they go out and buy lesser models first. We're talking making several ~10k purchases of watches these people don't want just so they can increase their odds of getting the one they do want months / years down the road. There is an almost cult like reverence for the AD (Authorized Dealer). It's pretty fucking stupid.
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“Why people buy eleventy gajillion fake handbags” you ask?
My 60yo aunt came across a fake Vuitton and bought it. It was remarkably well done and it was basically indistinguishable from a real one unless you knew what to look for.
You know what? People at the mall and on the street looked at her a bit differently. She wasn’t just reasonably youthful and well dressed, she was the kind of older woman who owns a trendy designer bag. Consciously or unconsciously, people built a different image of her.
This was so good for her self esteem that she bought another semi-realistic fake Dior and some assorted dupes (until she came to her senses and stopped lol )
Fakes and dupes are cheap copium or, if you’re cynical and clever enough, very effective tools to navigate society.
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Reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Marge finds a Chanel suit in Springfield’s thrift store for a really low price and some of her old school friends see her in it. They think she’s rich and invite her to the country club but since she can’t afford another Chanel suit she has to keep turning it into different garments with her sewing machine to keep up appearances.
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Lmao yes. Except that she quit before the suspension of disbelief could shatter.
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That video and the information you included leading into it actually made me a little sick to my stomach. That's so much money. There's so much you could do with that money besides buy bags. It's one thing when it's the super-wealthy and you envy them and their lifestyle. Whatever. I've had a lifetime to get numb to that, but when it's like... Consumerism over basic needs and taking care of your family... Ugh. That's upsetting.
Oh you silly-billy. That's what the hangbag insert is for!
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MAn, but this is what consumerism leads to. Most people my age (and I'm no longer exactly young) own nothing and have few plans for anything further. They have gay bags and fancy clothes, they spend a thousand dollars going to a festival (I'm occassionally guilty of this too but it's within my means) and flash nonsense as a status signifier.
MEanwhile I own a daily driver sure to be on the road another 100k miles, a weekend car that I use for high performance events, and a commercial truck that even if it fails to make money down the line can be sold for more than I bought it for. All free and clear. My rent (waiting for the housing market to cool down) is dirt cheap because I live 30 minutes from the 'cool downtown' - if I wanna go to the club it ain't much to drive down there. One to two day's of hard labor on a good project makes me enough to pay my rent. It's easy to live good in America, and in my opinion showing someone a video of me in my spedcial car on a world-class racetrack doing hot laps is worth 1000 videos of consumer tat.
You can plan on a future, build your assets and business, have a few fancy toys (again, a sick race bike is was hotter than a purse that cost about the same) and cook your own food, or you can be a consumer retard with an empty head and a flash addiction that is satisfied mostly by showing off to people you don't know and will never meet via social media.
MEanwhile I own a daily driver sure to be on the road another 100k miles, a weekend car that I use for high performance events, and a commercial truck that even if it fails to make money down the line can be sold for more than I bought it for. All free and clear. My rent (waiting for the housing market to cool down) is dirt cheap because I live 30 minutes from the 'cool downtown' - if I wanna go to the club it ain't much to drive down there. One to two day's of hard labor on a good project makes me enough to pay my rent. It's easy to live good in America, and in my opinion showing someone a video of me in my spedcial car on a world-class racetrack doing hot laps is worth 1000 videos of consumer tat.
You can plan on a future, build your assets and business, have a few fancy toys (again, a sick race bike is was hotter than a purse that cost about the same) and cook your own food, or you can be a consumer retard with an empty head and a flash addiction that is satisfied mostly by showing off to people you don't know and will never meet via social media.
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It's fine for her to spend this much. Like, it doesn't seem like she has any family anyway. And she seems healthy, not underweight or anything. It's just that her priorities is a bit different. Money can't buy the happiness from relationships, but what the fuck are you gonna do with the money you don't use on social stuff? A lot of people will never have a social life, and that's just life.
Saving and saving, and then dying without using them seems pointless and it's way better to cry in an Ferrari than a trash car.
Even though it's sad to live in a van to afford bags. It's fucking hilarious too. But, there is more limited storage space in a van. So it's more like. You just enabled her to buy more bags *Slow clap*
Even if she was super wealthy, I wouldn't even envy her. Like, what the fuck does she use all the bags for? I'm sure many are unused, and the best bag is the one(s) that you actually use. She does look super plain, not wealthy at all. Maybe update your wardrobe and stop buying everything at H&M? Cheap clothes are fine and dandy, but even basics have a different feel when you go up in price. Don't even have to go like super high, but don't buy from the obvious fast fashion brands.
We have seen this bag in her and several others bag hoarders collection. God... It's atrocious, and it screams wannabe. It amazes me that so many actually want this, because I wouldn't be caught dead even in this.
It's a nice idea, because they protect the bag. They do have to be color matching though. In the video from the Asian chick about Hermès, she talked fondly about a white insert in a black bag to make contrast. Contrast is fine, but do it with your clothes. It looked tacky in the bag. Yet another example that money doesn't buy good taste.
Feel you right there. People my age seems to use all their money on partying. Meanwhile I'm already set with an apartment I actually own on the good side of a major city. and the housing prices aren't planning to stop at all.
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That's awesome. That life sounds comfy as hell.
That's a good point. This specific situation just made me jelly, I think.
That thing is hideous. Let's find a knockoff!
Just a reminder that this video exists:
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@NoReturn Doing the Lord's Work.
I was actually talking about this to my mum the other night. Like, we may be poorfag farmers whose money is always going back into our place, but at least we have a decent supply of food and seeds for our garden. What are these people going to do if there's a famine and shit? All my recent money has been going into canning jars, canned food, flour, etc. And these people are showing off dropping $10,000 dollarydoos on a bag.
When times get tough, no one is going to be buying used bags. Or discount plastic Funko Pops. Or anything that isn't the essentials. You're going to be left panicked and looking at your rooms full of plastic garbage that can't feed you. At least if you bought that cheap land in North Dakota, you can clear some of it off and grow a garden. How is a Chanel bag going to feed you?
It's like how I don't really enjoy that western culture has sort of normalized eating out too and all these Door Dash apps. I would argue it is consoomerism to a degree because I know quite the few of my relatives who legitimately got the vaccine just so they could go to restaurants. They can't make that fucking Chicken Cacciatore recipe for themselves (at 1/3 the cost), it has to be out with some friends, with drinks, in a place after 9pm so there's no kids (and it costs over $30 a person without tips). Or they tell me they feel bad I can't order pizza and get it delivered to my place since I live too remote for those services.
I always tell them why the fuck would I do that to begin with, I've got my own sourdough. It doesn't take any time to make your own pizza. But the convenience and "it's not Dominoes" always comes up. It's like you're conditioned to see making your own food as tiresome and eating out to be the better experience. And mind you, this isn't at independent restaurants - this is for chain places live The Olive Garden and East Side Mario's. It baffles my mind I have people in my life that think not eating out more than once a week equals "Bad Times." Yet the amount of money they waste for a bowl of spaghetti that they don't even finish is unreal.
I've limited myself to eating out once a month, and that includes getting a specialty coffee at Tim Hortons. And the amount of money you save alone should be what's normalized in society. Getting something as an actual "treat" and not a constant TREAT YOSELF, but I know that'll never go over well. Even when there's no fucking food, I bet my relatives will still want to eat out.
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Nothing to be envious of, it's all bags "everyone" has. It loses it's worth when all the peasants have it.
Wonder how that collection is doing now, since he became a cowboy. Yihaa!
What a pretentious cunt. First she says elegant women has to be non-judgemental, but then they have to donate or some shit. What happened with having respect for others way of life?
Nice try to guilt trip.
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Maybe I'm being too snobby here, but this is definitely consoomerism. Ever since the disease event people have pushed this narrative of "support hospitality workers and order out!" which most people interpret as ordering food from a refugee that will risk their life in traffic delivering it and send the money to a big tech company. Its getting harder and harder to support small restaurants as delivery services like Uber/Door dash take a huge chunk of sale profits, but without these services, those restaurants go out of business. Plus, where I live most venues are owned by a larger venue groups/corporations which create lackluster meals - its like fast food disguising as refined dining, and people still eat it up.
Mukbangs are also troubling for food culture and what people eat as a lot of it involves junk. Just look at Nikocado, he's probably only alive because food corporations pump insulin into his butthole. Yet, we see this content all the time and its the norm now unfortunately. Cooking is for boomers, even 30+ millenial adults consider cooking to be "adulting" which is too hard for their mush brains. All they know to make is a sloppy sourdough and brownies. Which means more revenue for the hospitality conglomerates!
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It probably doesn't help that most food shows on TV are either Chef Reality shows like Chopped, or they're TV Personality Chefs making their "Yummy!" and "Delicious and Delectable" food which requires a pound of fucking butter. Not even I want to make that garbage.
It's like how everyone loves The Great British Bakeoff (I do too) but no one actually wants to bake. This comes up with my friends group a lot. When we get together, they say 'I made cookies!' and it's just the premade cookie dough rounds that you literally stick on a sheet pan. Granted, the Cooking World itself is FULL of consoomer stuff so I can see how it can be intimidating, but you don't need to buy an entire Le Creuset pot set to cook. Yet every Food Network show has their chefs using those pots, or copper pans, with gas grills. Sort of setting this ideal that if you want to be successful in the kitchen, you need what they have.
Which is bullshit.
The thing is, you need to evaluate cooking on an individual basis. I own the best pot in my household, but it set me back quite the bit. But I use it all the time for everything - canning, soup, pasta, bread, etc. My purchase has taken me a long way. My mother bought a pot for $40 at Crappy Tire and that's suited her for all her needs, such as small stews, soup, pasta, etc. The difference between us is I cook more than her. If you don't cook a lot, a pot from Wal-Mart that's cheap and 2.5 quarts is fine. If you plan on having a multipurpose pot, consider investing (but only for one damn pot, don't buy an entire fucking set).
Like what the fuck, who needs all that?
Even on sale, I feel disgusted at the price. You don't need all that shit unless you're cooking like an Italian Grandma high on Espresso on Christmas. Most of that will see use once every 6-12 months.
And worse, there's a lot of push for these other appliances which feel really kitschy and fast fads. The big one this year being, of course, air fryers. Last year it was Sous Vide machines. Before that, the InstantPot.
Ffs, $120 for something to sit on your counter not being used. There's so much fucking useless cooking shit, all dressed up as convenient and wonderful and it'll make cooking Fast and Fun and Easy (or pretty, in case of dinnerware)! And they're just money pits unless you actually really wanted it and knew you were going to use it more than a couple of times.
Honestly, I invested in my pot and a heavy-duty metal Kitchenaid Mixer but only after I researched for a long time about what I wanted (I knew I wanted the more expensive mixer because I prefer all metal parts to plastic). I never bought them on a whim at the store or insisted I needed them in a certain colour. I read over customer reviews and saved up a couple months until I finally was able to afford them. Which is what I think a lot of my generation should do before they buy stuff.
No one should own a Kitchenaid mixer just because they use them on the Great British Bakeoff or Binging with Babish or whoever else endorses it. Own one if you know you'll use it at LEAST more than once a month. Buy a good pot if you know it will become your mainstay pot, not to encourage you to cook, because that never works.
Learn to fuckin' cook but don't be a consoomerist retard about it.
Like what the fuck, who needs all that?
Even on sale, I feel disgusted at the price. You don't need all that shit unless you're cooking like an Italian Grandma high on Espresso on Christmas. Most of that will see use once every 6-12 months.
And worse, there's a lot of push for these other appliances which feel really kitschy and fast fads. The big one this year being, of course, air fryers. Last year it was Sous Vide machines. Before that, the InstantPot.
Ffs, $120 for something to sit on your counter not being used. There's so much fucking useless cooking shit, all dressed up as convenient and wonderful and it'll make cooking Fast and Fun and Easy (or pretty, in case of dinnerware)! And they're just money pits unless you actually really wanted it and knew you were going to use it more than a couple of times.
Honestly, I invested in my pot and a heavy-duty metal Kitchenaid Mixer but only after I researched for a long time about what I wanted (I knew I wanted the more expensive mixer because I prefer all metal parts to plastic). I never bought them on a whim at the store or insisted I needed them in a certain colour. I read over customer reviews and saved up a couple months until I finally was able to afford them. Which is what I think a lot of my generation should do before they buy stuff.
No one should own a Kitchenaid mixer just because they use them on the Great British Bakeoff or Binging with Babish or whoever else endorses it. Own one if you know you'll use it at LEAST more than once a month. Buy a good pot if you know it will become your mainstay pot, not to encourage you to cook, because that never works.
Learn to fuckin' cook but don't be a consoomerist retard about it.
TL;DR: The cooking world is full of useless shit. Buy only what you know you'll use year-round.
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There was a delay in some promised video, Petty Paige weighed in.
Video has since been posted:
Her whole channel is like that:
It gets even worse:
I'd argue it's for the Silents, at least in my neck of the woods. I don't know a single boomer who can cook worth a damn, but I do know several millennials who can who only learned out of spite against said boomer parents. The Silents I know know how to cook, though.
You might like this, though:
The ad:
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I love that channel, lmao. I think it's really important to have a channel like that to show off how people can just straight up use editing or lie for dumb trends or "hacks". But it doesn't take a genius to learn how to temper chocolate. You just need some patience and time and a cold surface, and if I know my generation, all of those things are DIFFICULT, so they fall for these dumb things.
I had never heard of that pan before.
Yikes... even at $75 it looks like a scam, like those Blue Diamond Granite Non-Stick pans you see, or whatever they are. The scam pans that say you can scratch them and you know that's just a lie. In comparison:
I got this exact one for $250 at my local old lady Baking Gadget shop because they wanted to get rid of it. Black inside. Only use wooden spoons with it. You can cook a batch of jam in it without a problem. Pasta. Stew. Frying. Stick a whole chicken or roast in it. It can go in the oven to at least 500F for if I want to make bread. I love it. It's fucking perfect. The only downside is it's heavy as all hell, but you just need to do some weights for that problem. Staub did good with this.
- Would I buy another Staub La Cocotte? Yes. It's a good wedding present and mine's a couple years old and still looks brand new. I recommend them as a long-term pot and taking care of it. It'll probably last your lifetime.
- Would I ONLY buy Staub? Fuck no. You can get their other crap for cheaper.
- Would I buy their accessories and specialty pots like the Staub Rice Cooker? Fuck. No. Rice cookers are $20 at Walmart or you can use a damn normal pot.
- Would I recommend this to others? Only if I knew their budget could afford it. Otherwise $360 is a real lot to ask for unless you are serious into caring for it and using it at least 3 times a week.
It's really not hard to not over-indulge with Cookware when you really take your time about it. I try not to listen to chefs about stuff because they probably get paid to advertise items. But if you read reviews across the board from amazon to the manufacturer's website, you can get a better idea on what you want on an item and whether it's worth your wallet.
I will still say though... it is a lot easier to save up for a good piece of cookware if you don't eat out all the time. I feel for restaurant owners, I really do, but unless it's something I won't make myself because I don't have the skills, I'm not paying 30 damn dollars for a fucking burger with Locally Sourced Coleslaw on it.
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"$30 for a burger! I just wanted the coleslaw!"
"$30 can buy many coleslaw."
More about that pan, btw:
Another:
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There's a restaurant supply store in my city that sells a lot of cookware for cheap. Not sure if actually good as I've not needed to buy any cause I cook on unbranded woks and rice pots literally older than me. All the recently purchased cookware hasn't actually lasted, but those old things? FUCKING INDESTRUCTIBLE. Daily use for well over 30 years at this point and no sign of breaking down anytime soon.
I think the most expensive cookware I own is a 12" Lodge CI so not exactly fancy shit.