#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Steamboat_Bill]

Oh yeah just making this up or copying from places that I never read. Uh huh. All I said is there is some chatter about this. Case in point EVS from yesterday noticing the clear pattern of professional astroturfing in the reviews.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vQ1WAp2wBx4It's a long stream but the key stuff starts around the 7 minute mark when he realizes the naming pattern to all the accounts.

Also this guys account is fascinating. He claims to have just come back from a meeting at Lucasfilms. Take it with a grain of salt, but it is fascinating, is it not?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=MYguUifsYvs;t=4

Yeah, this guy works at Lucasfilm. And my uncle works at Nintendo too.

Just because there's chatter doesn't actually mean anything's happening.

 

[AJ 447]

Stop talking about Star Wars.

 

[XYZpdq]

Off topic but this panel floated past my tweeter today and it made me realise that even if marvel never went full SJW/tumblr pandering it would still be doomed

I mean...just fucking look at that artwork to start with. Its not every day one sees nose art that manages to be worse than the infamous tumblr nose syndrome shit.

More importantly though look at the writing and dialogue. This shit is more childish and reductive to the whole "wamnen totally love talking about cloths! and hair! and they so kooky too! amirite gal pals?!" than literal BARBIE comics

Dont believe me? here is a page selected by random number generator from a barbie comic selected by random number generator

Spoiler: dont ask for context. it makes even less sense

I mean dont get me wrong, this shit is dumb (if amusingly mindfucky) but its the kind of light hearted and well meaning dumb of "ok this is a kids comic so lets try and make this something a kid might like to read if they are bored!". It almost comes across as being written by a literal child....and its STILL less of a "OH SILLY GIRLS AND THEIR HAIR AND FASHION AND STUFF!" insult to wammenkind than the "OH WE ARE SO WOKE GUIZ! OUR CHARACTERS ARE THE MOST FEMINININININIST WAYMAN EVER TO WAYMAN!" line at marvel

And it aint like this is some isolated thing. Just about every female character at marvel speaks and acts like the demented hybrid of stale Joss Whedon cliches and the masturbatory fantasies bitter past-their-prime female writers/bitter troons have about how they would act if they were the alpha-bitches in highschool

EDIT: ok i started reading the whole barbie comic in question and the first page has a pedophile turtle hitting on barbie's underaged sister/cousin/whatever. What the actual fuck have i stumbled accross?!
EDIT 2: and now the pedoturtle is enquiring about how to caulk a boat...and no thats NOT a euphamism
EDIT 3: Ken just complimented the pedoturtle on being "hard as a rock". fuck this im done

Skipper Skipper is a pretty good joke, tbh.

youre posting this on a forum that literally has "the feels" as a sticker you can slap on other peoples posts if you feel them.

Target's had a greeting card section using feels in the meme sense for a while.

 

[damian]

We're going way off topic, is there a Disney's Star Wars thread where you sperg about it there?

Bringing it back to Comics:

Jim Zub's slapfight is pretty long and all over the place so ill focus on Ron Marz:

https://twitter.com/ronmarz/status/1008748088532652032 https://archive.li/eObyM
Lets take a closer look at those issues:

1. Amazing Spider-Man #800 (Marvel)
2. Venom #1 (Marvel)
3. Doomsday Clock #5 (DC Comics)
4. Avengers #1 (Marvel)
5. Black Panther #1 (Marvel)

Marvel is known for their over-shipping, but surely these numbers are here to stay, right?

Spoiler: Whoops

EDIT: http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-05.html

 

[Water-T]

Gosh - high sales numbers for #1's and big event issues ike #800? THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED!

LOLNOPE, Ron Marz. Get back to me when you find a comic series that actually manages to maintain those respectable numbers. Otherwise, fuck off. You haven't been relevant since you last wrote Green Lantern, and that was 15 years ago.

 

[damian]

Gosh - high sales numbers for #1's and big event issues ike #800? THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED!

LOLNOPE, Ron Marz. Get back to me when you find a comic series that actually manages to maintain those respectable numbers. Otherwise, fuck off. You haven't been relevant since you last wrote Green Lantern, and that was 15 years ago.

Not to mention that there was a ton of #1s that month:

https://twitter.com/Mech_Aniki/status/1008801658434998272 https://archive.li/Ji6JF

Spoiler: Imgs

DC Comics:

Marvel:

JFC. Vee, never make another "review" please. It's 90% rambling and 15mins too long:

EDIT:
Where's the gays, Marvel?

EDIT 2:

 

[Princess Rescuer]

If comic companies are serious about "promoting women", why do they go out of their way to choose the worst women possible, as if annoying the fans is a measure for success? Stephanie Meyer, EL James, and Kiera Cass would be better choices. No hyperbole. They can write things that sell. With the female demographic. Let me tell you something about alternative demographics: doing things to anger your current demographic rarely pulls in other ones. The better you treat current paying customers, the more non-customers will want to become customers. In a post-sales, post-success world, not only do sales not matter, lower sales becomes better because more sales means more criticism usually. Making what you want and not selling is easy, fun, and safe. Committing to a high standard of quality and selling to multiple demographics is stressful and difficult. It's a job.

Speaking of female authors, anyone wondering if female authors suffer the same amount of constant bullying and demands for "diversity" (meaning open contempt and dis-inclusion of white people and Western first-world values), they do. This is not publicized as much because SJWs, including first-world white women in "victim groups", have backed themselves into a corner. Since fictional novels do not have a male-dominated audience, they naturally capitulated to peer pressure, another thing that makes it difficult to demonize them besides being mostly women. So in case anyone who's part of a nerdy, male-dominated medium or subculture is wondering if something like romance novels or women's magazines or whatever are being battered by SJWs in a concentrated effort to force draconian political correctness into everything, there is! And this is arguably worse due to women having a harder time starting independent publishing houses for the arts and getting less coverage overall, silently enduring the constant pressure from mobs who "respect women" as long as the women fit their mould and march to their beat. You want to talk harassing women? The collusion, cliques, fairweather friendliness, lack of opposition, and workplace harassment disguised as policing are, naturally, even worse with a clique of mean girls.

 

[RockVolnutt]

If comic companies are serious about "promoting women", why do they go out of their way to choose the worst women possible, as if annoying the fans is a measure for success? Stephanie Meyer, EL James, and Kiera Cass would be better choices. No hyperbole. They can write things that sell. With the female demographic. Let me tell you something about alternative demographics: doing things to anger your current demographic rarely pulls in other ones. The better you treat current paying customers, the more non-customers will want to become customers. In a post-sales, post-success world, not only do sales not matter, lower sales becomes better because more sales means more criticism usually. Making what you want and not selling is easy, fun, and safe. Committing to a high standard of quality and selling to multiple demographics is stressful and difficult. It's a job.

Speaking of female authors, anyone wondering if female authors suffer the same amount of constant bullying and demands for "diversity" (meaning open contempt and dis-inclusion of white people and Western first-world values), they do. This is not publicized as much because SJWs, including first-world white women in "victim groups", have backed themselves into a corner. Since fictional novels do not have a male-dominated audience, they naturally capitulated to peer pressure, another thing that makes it difficult to demonize them besides being mostly women. So in case anyone who's part of a nerdy, male-dominated medium or subculture is wondering if something like romance novels or women's magazines or whatever are being battered by SJWs in a concentrated effort to force draconian political correctness into everything, there is! And this is arguably worse due to women having a harder time starting independent publishing houses for the arts and getting less coverage overall, silently enduring the constant pressure from mobs who "respect women" as long as the women fit their mould and march to their beat. You want to talk harassing women? The collusion, cliques, fairweather friendliness, lack of opposition, and workplace harassment disguised as policing are, naturally, even worse with a clique of mean girls.

Plus actively antagonizing your current customerbase leaves the implication whatever new one they're chasing is equally disposable. Why wouldn't they toss them under the bus too? If you're not going to respect your current customers for being white males then at least do it for the sake of whatever new audience you think will come in.

Nobody looks at the parenthesis when you go "Fuck our customers (because they are white men)"

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

If comic companies are serious about "promoting women", why do they go out of their way to choose the worst women possible, as if annoying the fans is a measure for success? Stephanie Meyer, EL James, and Kiera Cass would be better choices. No hyperbole. They can write things that sell. With the female demographic. Let me tell you something about alternative demographics: doing things to anger your current demographic rarely pulls in other ones. The better you treat current paying customers, the more non-customers will want to become customers. In a post-sales, post-success world, not only do sales not matter, lower sales becomes better because more sales means more criticism usually. Making what you want and not selling is easy, fun, and safe. Committing to a high standard of quality and selling to multiple demographics is stressful and difficult. It's a job.

Speaking of female authors, anyone wondering if female authors suffer the same amount of constant bullying and demands for "diversity" (meaning open contempt and dis-inclusion of white people and Western first-world values), they do. This is not publicized as much because SJWs, including first-world white women in "victim groups", have backed themselves into a corner. Since fictional novels do not have a male-dominated audience, they naturally capitulated to peer pressure, another thing that makes it difficult to demonize them besides being mostly women. So in case anyone who's part of a nerdy, male-dominated medium or subculture is wondering if something like romance novels or women's magazines or whatever are being battered by SJWs in a concentrated effort to force draconian political correctness into everything, there is! And this is arguably worse due to women having a harder time starting independent publishing houses for the arts and getting less coverage overall, silently enduring the constant pressure from mobs who "respect women" as long as the women fit their mould and march to their beat. You want to talk harassing women? The collusion, cliques, fairweather friendliness, lack of opposition, and workplace harassment disguised as policing are, naturally, even worse with a clique of mean girls.

I had no clue it was going on in pop literature too. It's not surprising that they'll walk all over women considering what has happened to women's sports (being wrecked by transtrenders).

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

That's not surprising but I had no clue it was going on in pop literature too. It's not surprising they'll walk all over women considering what has happened to women's sports being wrecked by transtrenders.

Apparently it's a huge problem with YA fiction writers. Vulture had a really good article about it.

 

[Princess Rescuer]

Thanks for the article. I have heard -from women- that female-on-female bullying is the worst and it gets dealt with the least due to how undetectable it is to male authorities and higher-ups.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Thanks for the article. I have heard -from women- that female-on-female bullying is the worst and it gets dealt with the least due to how undetectable it is to male authorities and higher-ups.

Dudes try to break your face, girls try to break your mind.

 

[Emperor Julian]

If comic companies are serious about "promoting women", why do they go out of their way to choose the worst women possible,.

Because they're either not or they have absolutly no idea on how to do it. Considering they want to sell to urban communities while charging $3-5 per comic and only selling in middle class niche stores, it's pretty clear they're either lying or incompetant. Probably the later considering they're currently loosing a slap fight with a shitty youtuber.

Asking Comic companies to sell to women is like asking my cat to run a parisian fashion show.

 

[Princess Rescuer]

I want to attack this idea that only men appreciate beauty and attractiveness. Most fans of comics/games I assume are unfamiliar with things with a female-dominated audience, so they assume that women like the same things men do, but with women. Not true. Women like fashion and beauty. And they like sex. A lot. Women's magazines, even the ones not aimed at perverts, is full of fashion advice, beauty advice, sex advice, and even occasionally pictures of exposed women. They also like lingerie stores, art museums with naked statues, they watch shows like America's Next Top Model, and they like porn. Actual filmed porn, not just reading. Are people in comics so unfamiliar with women that they don't even bother to research this and don't have the remotest understanding of basic biological preferences?

 

[Mola Ram]

Are people in comics so unfamiliar with women that they don't even bother to research this and don't have the remotest understanding of basic biological preferences?

 

[Princess Rescuer]

Is anyone else getting bored of strong women? The way they're implemented in modern comics is boring and insulting. First of all, there's no tension because you can't ever let women fail, lest you anger the most thin-skinned, intolerant group of people in the planet. Not to mention, in a universe where it's well established that women are stronger, it's still treated as a surprise when they beat up all the men. These stories, reduced to an amalgamation of "acceptable" social justice tropes and nothing else, have significantly less variety than the girl rescuing stories of old. No woman would want to be seen in public with this because they can't relate to it and they suspect it would seriously hurt their chances with men. And why is it always an ethnic minority? Ethnic minorities hate feminism and homosexuality, hate to break it to you. Women also like wearing yoga pants and dressing up as maids because they feel comfortable and feminine.

SJWs are so boring and unlikeable, they can't claim the moral high ground over just about anyone. At least all of the "racists and sexists" they hate are all better people than they are.

 

[damian]

Dealing With the PC Culture that’s Infested Comic Book Culture

Bleeding Fool June 19, 2018
by Chris Braly

If you haven’t been paying attention, political correctness has almost completely taken over the comic book culture. I’m going to demonstrate it and tell you how to deal with it.


Where Did Political Correctness Start?
The origins of political correctness began the 1930’s when the communist leadership in Russia joked about how what they wanted people to believe in order to control them didn’t naturally correspond with reality. They were concerned that some things that were to the Communist Party’s liking weren’t factually correct, but could be considered “politically correct”. In order to try and achieve this, the Communist Party started policing the language. Citizens eventually couldn’t criticize the Soviet state, or question the system. Political correctness was spawned. In fact, political correctness itself was never about “saying something nice”. It was always about controlling discourse in order to shape culture from day one. So essentially, political correctness began at the Frankfurt School, which in turn took most of its cues from Karl Marx, the creator of Marxism.

Returning now to comics, last month, Comic Book Resources (CBR), a website dedicated to the coverage of comic book-related news, showed their political correctness (again). They claimed that the recent Jawbreakers & Antarctic Press publishing deal was in fact NOT interfered with by Marvel writer Mark Waid. The forum moderators shut down any discussion about the topic, even though they had just posted an article about it on their website. The message? Diversity of opinions was not going to be suffered at CBR any longer. If you supported this cause that these mods disagreed with, then your opinions no longer were going to be heard in their forums.



These moderators are referring to the crowdfunding juggernaut by Richard Meyer, Jon Malin, and Brett R. Smith as a “particular brand of nonsense” and decided that since they find the viewpoints and behavior of the creative team and the book’s fans “abhorrent,” “sickening,” and a “detriment to civil discourse” that they will not allow ANY discussion on the report CBR published, or any of the other sources of information about Mark Waid’s interferencebecause Jawbreakers fans “give comic book fandom a bad name.”

Those same fans also happened to give the Jawbreakers creative team over a third of a million dollars in crowdfunding dollars, but I digress.

In another political correctness gambit, the very inspiration for this very website even recently made the fallacious claim that far more liberal comic creators were blacklisted by Marvel and DC than conservative ones. I suppose that’s an easy quotient to calculate since most comic publishers essentially only hire liberal comic creators, so any handful that happened to get fired or blacklisted would be the majority of any so-called blacklist. Talk about gaslighting comic book fans! It’s not to be unexpected in an age where most of these websites are engaged in open nepotism with the comic publishing industry.

Even comic book customers themselves are dealing with these phenomena in their local comic shops, even being banned from the shops for “wrongthink“. Here’s a video of one comic book fan who supported the Jawbreakers crowdfund comic and he was kicked out of the shop and told he was permanently banned. Most people wouldn’t have believed this could happen had he not recorded the exchange on his smart phone. This is a comics fan who had a pull-list at the store and was a weekly customer that never caused any problems in the store or discussed politics or even Diversity & Comics. However, because the store owner discovered that the customer had said something on his personal Youtube channel that the store owners didn’t agree with, so he was banned. They no longer wanted his money.

Do other business act this way?? Do toothpaste and toilet paper companies care about your politics? Does McDonald’s care about your personal opinions? Do other business try to punish customers for similar “wrongthink”?

Not exactly a way to grow your business, especially in an era when comic shops are closing all around us.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QbrxTezTI2ANot to be outdone, comic book creators themselves have recently felt emboldened to demonstrate actual bigotry against their own comic fans, insulting anyone with whom they disagree with politically or who are simply vocal in their criticism for how the creator is treating beloved characters. Some creators have sunk to using sophomoric name calling tactics towards the fans, going so far as telling fans that they don’t want them to buy their books!? Do shareholders of DC and Marvel know about this practice?

Please note: Not ALL comic creators behave this way. In fact, most of them do not behave this way, but PLENTY of them do.


This is from a senior VP at Marvel Comics, insulting a large portion of his readers. Great business model, Tom!

Here’s a new writer for the upcoming DC Vertigo line relaunch. This should help sales numbers!

Bigotry is apparently okay with Marvel Comics writers as long as it’s racism against white people…?


Marvel Comics writer Nick Spencer’s Twitter account became so toxic, he eventually deactivated it.


Here’s Max Bemis, also a Marvel Comics writer. Unfortunately he’s still on Twitter insulting anyone who disagrees with him.




Then there’s this hero. If Nick Spencer’s social media was toxic, this guy’s was the plague. He deactivated it after the Antarctic Press debacle.

SJW Kurt Busiek had the wise idea that if fans didn’t like SJW comics, they could make their own. So they did, but then the gatekeepers showed up…

Even relative unknown comic creators have gotten in on the act. This guy felt it was important to announce this publicly. Why?

This guy draws a webcomic and is openly admired by Gail Simone. He’s also repeatedly libeled Ethan Van Sciver.

And speaking of Gail, she certainly seems like the non-partisan friendly type. This sort of post is typical.

This person writes for both Marvel and DC – a real peach, that one.


Another Marvel Comics creator who’s social media got too toxic to keep active. Does CB Cebulski have a social media policy for freelancers?

Not sure who David Walker is writing for these days, but rest assured he isn’t writing for any white conservatives.

Then there’s Dan Slott, another Marvel Comics writer who had to eventually delete his Twitter account. He was worse than Mark Waid!

Still can’t believe this guy was writing G.I. Joe – not anymore though.

But I bet she likes it when conservatives purchase her comics…

There may be some truth to this within the comics industry.

I could go on and on ad nauseum because there is plenty of this material out there and these kinds of shenanigans are regularly covered by Douglas Ernst, Jeremy Hamby, Avi Green, Richard Meyer, Capn Cummings, That Umbrella Guy, Yellow Flash, Just Some Guy, Captain Frugal, and many more. In fact, Douglas Ernst has been covering this for several years, along with Avi Green, who has been doing yeoman’s work on the subject for many years as well, much to the chagrin of creators like Mark Waid and Dan Slott. Not to mention the use of block-chains that several creators have used in order to simply block every single follower of an account the creator doesn’t like. Fans who discover they’ve been blocked on social media are usually gobsmacked and hurt.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dan6RDLg1MA

I’ve personally experienced this first hand. A former host of the Comic Geek Speak podcast didn’t like my opinions on the forums, so he blocked my Twitter account from being able to view the podcast’s tweets. After blocking me (even though I had never engaged the account), this SJW began to repeatedly subtweet screen caps of mine to insult me for my libertarian politics and constantly insinuated that I was racist, bigoted, and so on, attacking me safely behind his Twitter block. He was never willing to respond to any direct messages from me asking for peace, but always protected by a tiny handful of sycophants that would faithfully rush in to applaud his childish ad hominem attacks on his critics. The lad was curiously unable to respond to substantive criticism other than to name-call and insult from within his Twitter-block safe-space.

In spite of my years of regular participation on the CGS forums, I hardly discussed anything demonstrably controversial. I even regularly donated money to the podcast. But once he discovered that I was involved with Bleeding Fool, my CGS forum account was immediately deactivated without warning or cause. Afterwards, any forum discussions about my absence or of Bleeding Fool in general were deleted by the moderators and the poster was warned not to engage in any discussion of BF or share links to this website. Comic Book Resources would be proud!

And it’s not just comic fandom that’s being attacked, blacklisted, or banned for “wrongthink.” Even popular comic creators themselves are being attacked or forced out. Most of our readers are familiar with the attacks on Chuck Dixon, Ethan Van Sciver, Jon Malin, or Wil Caligan. It’s easy to find the few conservative creators who are attacked by SJWs. But the truth is that SJW’s actually don’t care what your politics are. Their main goal is to virtue-signal, which is why they attack in public. They even eat their own if they can get some victimhood points in public. Popular comic book artists like Frank Cho and J. Scott Campbell have dealt with these SJWs first hand, acting like neo-puritans, attacked him over their art. The target’s politics don’t actually matter. Only the perceived infraction or wrongthink.

This isn’t just relegated to comic book culture. This same sort of culture rot has been going on in the RPG and MTG community for a while too. Even sci-fi conventions across the country aren’t immune.

Classic Liberalism, among other things, advocates that we should give a floor to all ideas, no matter what we personally believe about them. The best ideas, it is said, rise to the top. They have thrown away key concepts that are fundamental to Liberalism, which they claim to support, such as free speech and allowing all diverse voices a chance to air their grievances, communicate their solutions, and share their views, research, and experiences. We’re not seeing that from comic creators cited above, and several others.

I cannot emphasize enough that this is not about left vs right politics, no. I can have friendly discussions with standard liberals or republicans and even socialists and disagree while still remaining amiable. So SJWs are not synonymous with Democrats, liberals or progressives, civil rights activists, minorities including women, blacks, LGBT, immigrants (or whoever else is offended because I didn’t acknowledge their humanity by including them in that list). They are not political animals. They are attention-seeking, professional victims set on silencing differing opinions. These are people who think it is okay to do immoral things (lie, cheat, gatekeep, collude, etc) because to them “the ends justify the means”.

They are convinced they will be on “the right side of history” and that they are fighting for the rights of someone that they believe to be oppressed, or believe they themselves are oppressed, that any actions they take are justified. Marvel Comics writer Mark Waid is a classic example of this. In the SJW’s mind, victimhood exists, and victimhood therefore demands justice, so ANY action taken in the process of gaining justice is therefore justified.

As demonstrated above, whether it’s comic book forums, comic creators, or comic shops, any opposing viewpoints are being silenced.

When you combine this sort of virtue-signalling and the similar decline in the comic industry, this is obviously not a positive development for the future of comics, despite claims that the industry is doing “just fine”. Many understand that this decline is fueled by the trendy obsession with more and more diversity. And yet now that the CTRL-Left (SJWS) all but controls most of our society via gatekeeping, many still proclaim that they’d rather see the comic industry destroyed than relinquish control, and this is exactly what’s going to happen if things continue.

If you must engage these people, whether it’s your store owner, forum mods, or creators, then I recommend that you start nothing. However, if you do engage, finish everything. Do not back down from the engagement until it is over. In my experience, SJWs tend to be highly emotional, cowardly, and prone to depression, so demoralizing them tends to be considerably easier than you might imagine. You’d be surprised how many of them delete their Twitter accounts, only to later return. They will still hate you, but after repeatedly being met with staunch and confident opposition, they will usually decide to shut up and leave you alone and go in search of less difficult fans to abuse. I suggest rewarding SJWs who leave you alone by leaving them in peace. Leave the forum. Leave the store. Never return.

Now of course, not every creator or pop culture icon is an SJW. In fact, many of them are quite the opposite. You’re not alone.

Remember, there is only one true diversity in human affairs: Intellectual Diversity. Eventually the market will shift. In the meantime, more and more open-minded creators are starting to make their own indie comics and even crowdfunding their comics. The model is changing and comic fans are slowly winnowing down their pull-lists. Those elusive digital and at-cost Scholastic sales are not going to prop up a dying industry that refuses to serve its core audience what the audience wants.

Remember, ‘first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win’. We are currently in stage 3. It won’t be long now.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HR_uB3srI_0Here’s a humorous take on SJWs and PC Culture.

http://www.bleedingfool.com/blogs/how-to-deal-with-the-pc-culture-killing-the-comic-book-culture/

EDIT: Imgs fixed.

 

[damian]

Jordan Boyd (@jordantboyd)
Comic Book Colorist for Marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse, Valiant, Boom!, Dynamite, IDW, Monkeybrain, and more

Salty, Salty, Salty:

https://twitter.com/jordantboyd/status/1008742616752709635 https://archive.li/VBzM7

Get fucked, Ethan never offered you the job:

So, What is all this about? Ethan made a new stretch goal for his campaign that would give the colorist he hired a $10K bonus for his work on CyberFrogs ($250K Goal):

Which they obviously reached shortly after it was announced:

https://twitter.com/J0nSPEC/status/1008678203442024448 https://archive.li/oKdCu

Erica Henderson then decided to flat out admit to gatekeeping while trying to virtue signal (lovely ratio):

https://twitter.com/ericafails/status/1008930954319220737 https://archive.li/mDPdI

Ethan has no plans to continue the CyberFrog campaign past the IndieGoGo deadline:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ethan-van-sciver-s-cyberfrog-bloodhoney-comic-book-fantasy#/

 

[Water-T]

Bitch, please. It's not "alienation" when you're being blacklisted by talentless hacks like yourself. If Marvel gave you a $10,000 bonus to put some effort into your work, maybe you wouldn't draw Squirrel Girl like she has Downs Syndrome.

 

[One Man Bland]

Erica Henderson then decided to flat out admit to gatekeeping while trying to virtue signal (lovely ratio):

https://twitter.com/ericafails/status/1008930954319220737 https://archive.li/mDPdI

You ever noticed that it's only ever the talentless hacks of any given industry who try and pull the "the industry is a small place so you better watch what you say/do" card?

It's almost like they know they're gonna be the first ones on the chopping block if something better comes along so they want to smother competition before it even starts.