Opinion College Should Be More Like Prison

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College Should Be More Like Prison​

The inmates I teach are serious, disciplined, hard-working students, eager to engage with ideas.​


By Brooke Allen
March 5, 2023 11:56 am ET

Many of us who care deeply about education in the humanities can only feel despair at the state of our institutions of “higher” learning. Enrollment in these subjects is plummeting, and students who take literature and history classes often come in with rudimentary ideas about the disciplines. Interviewed in a recent New Yorker article, Prof. James Shapiro of Columbia said teaching “Middlemarch” to today’s college students is like landing a 747 on a rural airstrip. Technology such as messaging apps, digital crib sheets and ChatGPT, which will write essays on demand, has created a culture of casual cheating.

Never have I been more grateful to teach where I do: at a men’s maximum-security prison. My students there, enrolled in a for-credit college program, provide a sharp contrast with contemporary undergraduates. These men are highly motivated and hard-working. They tend to read each assignment two or three times before coming to class and take notes as well. Some of them have been incarcerated for 20 or 30 years and have been reading books all that time. They would hold their own in any graduate seminar. That they have had rough experiences out in the real world means they are less liable to fall prey to facile ideologies. A large proportion of them are black and Latino, and while they may not like David Hume’s or Thomas Jefferson’s ideas on race, they want to read those authors anyway. They want, in short, to be a part of the centuries-long conversation that makes up our civilization. The classes are often the most interesting part of these men’s prison lives. In some cases, they are the only interesting part.

Best of all from my selfish point of view as an educator, these students have no access to cellphones or the internet. Cyber-cheating, even assuming they wanted to indulge in it, is impossible. But more important, they have retained their attention spans, while those of modern college students have been destroyed by their dependence on smartphones. My friends who teach at Harvard tell me administrators have advised them to change topics or activities several times in each class meeting because the students simply can’t focus for that long.

My students at the prison sit through a 2½-hour class without any loss of focus. They don’t yawn or take bathroom breaks. I have taught classes on the Enlightenment, the Renaissance, Romanticism, George Orwell, South Asian fiction. We’ve done seminars on Adam Smith and Alexis de Tocqueville. Together we have read Montaigne, Rousseau, Keats, Erasmus, Locke, Montesquieu, Wollstonecraft, Byron, Goethe, Petrarch, Rabelais, Saadat Hasan Manto, Rohinton Mistry. The students write essays in longhand; during the pandemic I taught a correspondence class via snail mail. Some of them do read “Middlemarch,” and their teacher finds the experience far more gratifying than trying to land a 747 on a rural airstrip. We encourage them to treat different societies in history as experiments in time travel, where they try to understand the mores of particular eras as though from the inside. They are very open to that approach, unlike university students, who tend see the past only as one long undifferentiated era of grievous unenlightenment: not just one damn thing after another, but one damn oppressive thing after another.

Like students at elite institutions, most of my incarcerated scholars are politically liberal. Unlike them, many are religious, and that proves surprisingly enriching in studying these authors, who would have been amazed to know they would one day be read by classrooms full of atheists. One of my more devout students, a Protestant who converted to Islam, was so distressed by Voltaire’s disrespect for established creeds that he had to be comforted by other class members. They informed him that he was exactly the sort of person Voltaire was aiming his polemic at, and therefore he could understand the force of it in a way his irreligious peers couldn’t.

My hours at the prison are rich in such moments. In many ways, it is the Platonic ideal of teaching, what teaching once was. No faculty meetings, no soul-deadening committee work, no bloated and overbearing administration. No electronics, no students whining about grades. Quite a few of our students are serving life sentences and will never be able to make use of their hard-won college credits. No student debt, no ideological intolerance, no religious tests—whoops, I mean mandatory “diversity” statements. And in our courteous, laughter-filled classroom there is none of the “toxic environment” that my friends in the academy complain about, and that I experienced during my own college teaching career.

If prison inmates, many of whom have committed violent crimes, can pay close attention for a couple of hours, put aside their political and personal differences, support one another’s academic efforts, write eloquent essays without the aid of technology and get through a school year without cheating, is it too much to ask university students to do the same? Or ask professors to try to create an atmosphere where these habits can prevail? Perhaps prison education can serve as a model of how to return to true learning and intellectual exchange.

Ms. Allen reviews books and film for the Hudson Review, the New Criterion and other publications.

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So College should have sex starved convicts that will rape them for dominance?


All kidding aside, convicts unironically have better access to books and education. In fact, prison back then wasn't just assrape central back in the day. It was used to legitimately make people within it repent over their transgressions and come back out as a changed man. And this was done with deprivation and a bible. Alot of people nowadays especially the zoomies don't know how to operate without their state-mandated listening post better known as cellphones.
 
the smart phone and its consequences have been a disaster for the college student.
This was before the smart phone; it was the whole "college is about self discovery" free love bullshit. While the ivy league is more about networking. If you want a school that's about education, trade school or community college; state university and above is hipster lifestyle shit instead of actual critical thinking.
 
They tend to read each assignment two or three times before coming to class and take notes as well. Some of them have been incarcerated for 20 or 30 years and have been reading books all that time.
They're locked up. It's either rape, be raped, make pruno or read books.
 
They don’t yawn or take bathroom breaks.
Yet another teacher tyrant who pisses themselves with rage when students need to piss.
One of my more devout students, a Protestant who converted to Islam, was so distressed by Voltaire’s disrespect for established creeds that he had to be comforted by other class members.
What a pussy.
 
Technology is a minor to moderate factor to failing at school: if the lads inside want a smartphone, you bet your ass they're gonna manage to smuggle one inside as far as most prisons are concerned. Most undergrads are shit and unmotivated at work because the vast majority of them came from privileged backgrounds that never had them work their ass off to get by or force purpose out of their existence, and were sent to college for no other reason than "my parents told it's best for me". Dudes in jail willing to learn things are just grateful that they could get a fresh start starting there instead of possibly going back to their true jail: their former life. Naively asking undergrads to go through the same path to improve education makes the teacher sound like a supreme dumbass.

It's more of a societal problem where most people since the 50's believe college is something that elevates you without having to go through backbreaking labor. It's not, has never been, and has always led people towards shitty, unfulfilling, adult daycare jobs courtesy of your parents' clueless advice, no matter what you chose if you don't have the passion for it.
 
This ditzy bitch is gonna get psychologically manipulated into smuggling drugs and cellphones into a prison one day, then sit there when she gets caught and scream "MUH DINDUS!"

No fucking shit they pay attention in your class, lady - half of them are trying to get time cut off their sentence or are trying to look good for the parole board, the other half are blowing smoke up your ass as much as they can, so one day they can manipulate you into to doing "favors" for them.
 
Universities are no longer places to get an education, they are places to buy credentials and 4+ years of extended adolescence while flexing your social status. And also a hedge fund that doesn't have to pay taxes.

If convicts in prison are willing to better themselves, more power to them. I'd much rather hire someone who's demonstrated work ethic than some zoomer fresh out of undergrad.
 
I think I get what he's saying. Maybe not prison but it should be treated like military. I remember the story of some inner city school, it was basically the dump of all the problem children and in a mostly black neighborhood/series of them. It was also one of the poorest schools and remained such. Then some former black military guy (Vietnam vet) took over as a last ditch emergency and started running it like a military base. No more gang colors, everyone in camouflage military style outfits, boots and all. No disrespect of teachers or others. (students included) You spoke in class only when spoken to etc etc. He ended up turning the school around.. In fact it went from the worst of the worst to competing with the best schools in and around the city and state. Including state and nat honors etc. With one of the lowest dropout/expulsion/crime rates in the entire state. (from one of the highest.. since it was made up of 'last chance' students and gang members etc.) This was more than a decade ago.. The last I heard about it.. state and city politicians and so-called "academics" were pushing back and "very worried" about the "militarization" of education. (i.e. they were after his job) Then the story just dropped the fuck off the face of the earth.. Even the older stories. The thing that makes at all the worst is that the teachers, parents and even students were completely on board after a short while. But it seems like powerful interests were able to "set things right" in the end.. ugh

Phones at the very least need to be banned in an education setting. If I could get investigated or kicked out for an out of class joke.. Then they should have more than enough power to get rid of phones and enforce it!
 
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