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I said i'd do a post on Wyngro so let's do it. I'm not wel versed on this group/species/creator but I have some good sources and i've be granted access to some logs and screencaps.

Wyngro is a closed species group that started on Deviant art and has grown to have it's own site on the side for I guess the off chance someone stumbles onto it and they aren't on deviant art. The designs aren't exactly worth paying for:

As you can see (different colors and patterns will come later), the designs are extremely basic and easily malleable to whatever little designs or quirks you can add to them. In the hands of a more nuanced artist, these designs, imo, can pop a lot more and look pretty cute if not worth something but they aren't. Nestly is the original creator of these basic Tumblr tier species and she's a piece of work in her own right. This is and isn't an understatement at the same time. There's a lot on her which includes tax evasion, scamming, theft, among others. She's apparently in her early to mid thirties and quit her job at Subway because it was too much to handle apparently to do Wyngro "full time".

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This is her and she's quite the looker, don't you think?

From what I've been told, the tax evasion is her biggest offense. She's made close to or over $40k just from Wyngro purchases alone and has refused to pay taxes on it.

Here's one set of discord screenshots with a little more detail.
Here's Nestly herself bitching about people "spreading rumors" that she hasn't been paying her taxes. Since she failed to be a responsible adult, she overpaid whatever back taxes she owed by 25%. Wyngro money is apparently her adulting money that she doesn't seem to think taxes apply to. How does she make all of this money you ask? We'll see in just a bit because her Hebrewing is huge.

I was told that before in the early days of the group, a lot of the things were either free or effort rewards. That's perfectly fine obviously but later on down the line, something abruptly changed. On top of paying for singular things such as color changes, limit removals, BREEDING TICKETS, she has set up a patreon for the group as well. Patrons that donate get interesting rewards..
Basically, you can not only give her money from subs to her Patreon but just whimsically too! From the official Wyngro site!
The cheapest thing you can buy is a Parent Color Picker
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And the most expensive thing there is a fucking limit removal of all things. A limit removal that has restrictions and has a ONE TIME USE. You can buy this thing for $153 to use only once for a shitty baby dragon thing that isn't even yours to begin with at the end of the day.
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Like I've said prior, things weren't this grifty. A lot of these things were apparently reasonable but gosh that's boring to our new friend Nestly. She needs to spice up her group because she's so bored with it! What do we do to spice it up? Create useless shit for our unneeded patreon tiers and paywalling supposedly useful things! Just like Joker in Batman Movie 2 said, "If you're good at something, never do it for free."

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Nestly showing nepotism and generally being an unprofessional mod and a huge asshole
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From what I can tell with this screenshot, this is suddenly changing the already hyper strict Wyngro breeding rules and traits.
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Now we're to the other big part: art. Nestly is not the best artist let's call a spade a spade at this point. She's a low hanging artist: judges based on pretty instead of effort and skill alongside uniqueness and interesting factors. Why be a proper art judge when you can just be won over with something pretty or something your friend drew? I feel like, deep down, there is a word for this some where...
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Nestly steals. Nestly traces. Nestly is just shit all around. There's plenty of proof and archives of her stealing and tracing over designs and artwork of other artists in the group and even former admins and members. This makes you wonder if anything regarding this idea was made by her.

Former group member calling Nestly out on her tracing:

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Nestly also apparently held a design contest last year and has chosen her winners! (Archive) The designs themselves are imo, pretty cute and fine with how they are. But not for Nestly! She just had to go and design them to how SHE likes them and in the process, haughtily shit on the winners of her contest. (Archive)

Here is a video of this bitch legitimate streaming her tracing someone's art.

There's a whole lot more to this but I'll do another post for that when I get more information on it. This post is long enough as is and I'm not good at these like the rest of you all. Hopefully this is relevant to the thread and gives enough info. Again, I'm not apart of this dumpster fire and I'm posting information given to me by a trusted source.
Nestly is also internet blood brothers with Centch AKA Centurymon. She got caught tracing commissions years ago. She must've scammed hundreds with stolen art. No idea if she is still doing it but Nestly having no qualms about art theft makes sense.

I have no idea where to even look to find records of the Nestly and Centch lore but you might if you're in that deep with Nestly.
 
Has anyone else ever been on Chickensmoothie? It’s this website where you can adopt cartoon pets and dress them up, so naturally the forums are full of furries. There’s a lot of adoptable drama. Often the payment is not real money but a rare Chickensmoothie dog or other pet.
chickensmoothie is full of crazy adoptables people and they're constantly arguing over the same stupid shit year after year. it's a kid's site so they're not allowed to fight on-site, but you can still watch them sperg out in real time on tumblr:

https://cs-discourse.tumblr.com/ (https://archive.li/6NaAG )
https://cs-confessions-uncensored.tumblr.com/ (https://archive.li/6NaAG)

its an oekaki board so basically how it works is you can make one set of lines and then just have people pay to make copies of it.

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most of the drama revolves around this one. the only things that make it 'different' from other sparkledogs is the shiny shit on the tail, and that you have to use exactly the same base as everyone else to an exceptional degree. the species creator is so autistic that she spergs out whenever someone edits the nose slightly or change the leg poses, but is perfectly ok letting people add wings and lizard tails and feathers if they give her a couple hundred bucks (and because she does the same to her own).
 
chickensmoothie is full of crazy adoptables people and they're constantly arguing over the same stupid shit year after year. it's a kid's site so they're not allowed to fight on-site, but you can still watch them sperg out in real time on tumblr:

https://cs-discourse.tumblr.com/ (https://archive.li/6NaAG )
https://cs-confessions-uncensored.tumblr.com/ (https://archive.li/6NaAG)

its an oekaki board so basically how it works is you can make one set of lines and then just have people pay to make copies of it.

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most of the drama revolves around this one. the only things that make it 'different' from other sparkledogs is the shiny shit on the tail, and that you have to use exactly the same base as everyone else to an exceptional degree. the species creator is so autistic that she spergs out whenever someone edits the nose slightly or change the leg poses, but is perfectly ok letting people add wings and lizard tails and feathers if they give her a couple hundred bucks (and because she does the same to her own).
Isn't that the same forum site where they talk about politics to underage kids?
 
Most this shit looks like knockoff Digimon designes and there are some shocking digimon out there to ripoff, hell you could pretty much outright steal the design for some of the more obscure as hell ones and claim it as your own.
 
Isn't that the same forum site where they talk about politics to underage kids?
basically the website is like half furries and half homeschooled Christian horse girls

there’s an 18+ board where you can talk about more adult topics but it’s on the honor system that you’re a real adult
 
Nestly is also internet blood brothers with Centch AKA Centurymon. She got caught tracing commissions years ago. She must've scammed hundreds with stolen art. No idea if she is still doing it but Nestly having no qualms about art theft makes sense.

I have no idea where to even look to find records of the Nestly and Centch lore but you might if you're in that deep with Nestly.

best guess would be subeta/ neopets and this potential member-only thread

the one good thing about Nes is that she refuses to erase her tracks, priding herself on "not hiding anything"
except when she has to lie out of her ass about "not tracing/ stealing/ evading taxes/ etc" of course

so if she addressed this at any point, chances are she wouldn't be the one to take it down and it might still be out there
 
This is the result of thousands upon thousands of people all over the world getting art degrees that open up zero job prospects.
 
As per request, introducing a new [CLOSED] species, the Kiwonifama!
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RULES
-Each different color sprinkle is $15usd
-ALL Kiwonifama's are gay, you are not allowed to make them a different sexuality
-Ear color CANNOT be changed
-Creating a Kiwonifama without sending me $200 via paypal will result in a Sangie coming to your house and raping you
 
Something that I noticed that wasn't mentioned in Oh Okay Yeah That's Cool's post, was the original "story line" draft that the community group was meant to follow up until it's supposed end.

For those who are interested;

Main character (Nestly's OC) grows up ignorant of his "exceptional" heritage; a mother who is esteemed at magic and a father who is likewise with D A R K magic. Father, who has been neutered by royalty for practising D A R K magic, tells his estranged son that he is in-fact some super special OC with the ability to make others neutered by simply being around them. Is led around on a quest with his other heterochromia "friends" to find magical amulets that will allow him to go super saiyan five, all in order to defeat an immortal mad king.
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It's amateurish at best. Also to note, she put a large stake of her story onto her OCs love interest, a character that was written and developed by one of her admins, as she had planned for this character to be killed as a "tragic moment for the hero". The admin, of course, was not happy with these plans, nor Nestly's insistence to have them seen through, so they left the group amongst other reasons.

What is important about this context is that it preludes a meltdown she had. After the admin had left and Nestly was suddenly left with no love interest to kill off, instead of acting her age and writing around the issue ( or even just using the character regardless, as some would point out ), she went into hysterics. Drumming herself up a pity-party by recording herself throwing her former admin under the bus in a "woes me" narrative that had her going on about how "this person ruined my storyyyy!!"

















(Skip to 5:10 for relevant topic matter)

Since Nestly realised that the general audience reception to her tantrum was almost entirely negative, she quickly scrubbed any visual recording of this video off DeviantArt. This tantrum lead to a chunk of her administrative body and member base leaving en mass, in which during the exodus her plot was leaked amongst other incriminating documents of her behaviour ( some of which are included in Oh Okay Yeah That's Cool's post ) leading into her throwing a shit fit and scrapping her "story line" draft all together.

I'm not aware if she's since attempted to reincorporate elements of her script back into her CS, nor do I care to look. Though it's all very atypical lolcow behaviour to create your own problems only to then blame everyone else but yourself, and all over a "super special protag" story of all things.

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(Edit: Switched in original video, courtesy of Fried Shrimp and Cuddly Pirate)
 
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Unfortunately, since Nestly realised that the general audience reception to her tantrum was almost entirely negative, she quickly scrubbed any visual recording of this video off the internet. Now only existing in audio format.

It appears that Nestly has actually simply changed the original video's settings to "unlisted" making it still watchable if you happen to have saved the link. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cX6h30ZwHY (http://archive.li/1jZ3a)

Besides the first mention of what lead to her meltdown (5:10 - 7:00) there is also another section of her talking about that admin (12:15 - 13:00).

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I also wanted to clarify some things regarding the development of Wyngro in terms of monetization. It started out as an open species in 2015. Meaning everyone was allowed to freely make as many as they wanted for no money, aside of little optional purchases on the side such as an item that let you bypass certain mechanics within the group.

Due to some members making up to 30 of them at a time, Nestly at first decided to put in a limit of 5 free characters that members could make for free. Anyone that previously had more than these five characters however, was able to keep them without any charge. With this change also came the addition of "MYO Tickets", member's could purchase for $5, which would increase the number of characters you could have by one per ticket.
https://www.deviantart.com/wyngro/journal/Wyngro-Character-Limit-IMPORTANT-Please-read-562432198 (http://archive.li/Jz3LF)

Sometime around early 2017, Nestly made another decision regarding the number of "MYOs" a member would start out with and cut it down to 2 per artist. Similar to the first time, members who already had more than these two character were able to keep them. Unlike the first time, however, unless you previously had purchased a MYO Ticket from the group's store, your remaining 3 "slots" got removed. Meaning anyone that already had between 3-5 characters without having bought an additional slot prior to the change would have to pay $10 (prices also got increased this time around) for each of their already existing characters exceeding the two starting slots in order to make a new one.
https://www.deviantart.com/wyngro/journal/Important-Announcement-on-Wyngro-Slots-659314213 (http://archive.li/8tseG)

In December of 2017 Nestly decided to turn the species entirely into a "closed species", making it impossible to join the group without purchasing a MYO Ticket for $53, Adoptables (that often sell for hundreds if not thousands of dollars as well as being held behind a paywall within patreon) or few other means.
https://www.deviantart.com/wyngro/journal/Big-Announcement-Please-Read-719623360 (http://archive.li/S8f8D)
 
It appears that Nestly has actually simply changed the original video's settings to "unlisted" making it still watchable if you happen to have saved the link. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cX6h30ZwHY (http://archive.li/1jZ3a)

Besides the first mention of what lead to her meltdown (5:10 - 7:00) there is also another section of her talking about that admin (12:15 - 13:00).
Saved the video directly. You're welcome.
EDIT: It was already saved and I missed it. I need to stop posting early morning shit.
 
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What would they do if you paid the money and then went into MS Paint to draw a terrible abomination using your mouse or something in like awful clashing colours?
Note to any we.ens: its not suggested that you give people money to troll them. You still lose 50$ on a sparkledog to some prissy artist.
Funny you should mention that, because that HAS come up before! Can't remember the name, but there was a big kerfuffle a while back because some species tried to implement a sort of quality benchmark, even for the MYO ones where you pay them money for the honor of then drawing your own thing.

It was completely exceptional on both sides, I got a good laugh out of it because on the one hand expecting a quality check on DEVIANTART of all places where most people cant draw worth shit was never gonna go well, but on the other hand it SUPER OFFENDED the people who couldnt draw for shit and that was worth the stupidity of the whole thing. It was also, among other things, apparently a targeted attempt to specifically keep a couple notorious can't-draw drama queens out of the species, so the resulting fallout was extra juicy.
I wasn't expecting people to be that screeching and defensive of their mary sue species and I don't know why I'm surprised. I get trying to keep drama queens out but directly banning them would have been ideal instead of cutting out part of your audience.

On the subject of wnryogogos: lol someone programmed a color picker for the official site JUST to tell you if your color is fake and gay for the winess gryphons. The entire page reads like neopets but if it was infested with lootbox purchases (most CS that sell add ons do), and is pretty sad from an artistic/creative standpoint.
The requirements are ridiculous too: not only do you have to give money to the cult, you must work to show your devotion too.

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Only then you will achieve enlightenmen-I mean a TRUE and HONEST griffon color! (At least enlightenment feels like a better long term reward tbh)

The story is generic and strangely dark in some places for a neopets-lite artstyle. Tends to be the case with creators who sell cute adopts to older audiences (like the guys who make edgy pokemon fangames and comics).
Excuse me but what the fuck have you made me read with mine own two eyes

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This is a callout post about choice users of Chickensmoothie.com. That site has rules against swearing and talking about the birds and the bees. Ffs, the more innocent looking something is the weirder the degenerates it attracts.
Bastards like that enjoy corrupting the pure, so it only makes sense for them to hide in it.
Post: https://cs-discourse.tumblr.com/post/616449923976757248/person-who-wanted-a-run-down-on-problematic
Archive: https://archive.ph/UNrFq
 
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OH GOODIE, yeah I was hoping someone would make this after seeing the posts on the character thread :p I don't have the balls to go balls deep into this sticky white mess.

I did make mention about this one very active creator in the closed species fandom. The one to accuse me of being a pedo with out-of-context screenshots and everything. the one who harasses kids with their friend- their friend is 21 years old and they themself are a confirmed adult.
The kids they went after were 13-14, apparently one of them used to be friends with the 21yr old- yet they wanna claim me as the pedo? Of course they made that journal about me outta revenge, not outta protection- espeically since they sent NSFW to the minors they were tryna 'protect'.

Seriously, they went through my DA journal history and saw my journal where I listed all my accounts. I forgot I even had that journal and I recently turned one of the alts listed into my own NSFW account- they sent that to the minors who commented on my journal about them attacking kids, like "OH YOU THINK <insert their friend here> IS BAD?? HMM... <insert my journal+my NSFW account>" with NO warning.

Of course they fucking made a big ruckas over everything and I HAD to go on alts to apologize to the MINORS they sent the NSFW to- and they tried using my BDSM kinks against me, saying I was a predator. Then they made a journal about me being a rapist and pedophile, using random screenshots from when I commented on people's pages- I admit I said some weird things but the most of them were taken out of context and I had proof of the whole context provided.

They still victimize themselves for whatever reason, they even added my defense AND call-out journal to their pedophile journal- as if thats gonna somehow prove their point, thats how delusional and fucking psychotic they are. Not to mention how they romanticize the Mafia and shit, acting like that shit is 'cool' and overall how a child would react upon hearing about the mafia for the first time. Saying they wish they could "call a hit on me" and saying they want me dead.

I do give them some pity because yeah, they are fucking mentally unstable- and the 21yr old made a few status posts saying how they wanted to kill themself and how their friend was saying they were "suicide bating" them for venting- so I wanted to comfort them despite everything. I had made it very clear I wish no harm toward them this entire time, even going so far as to point out that to my friends when they were like "oh i hope they die lol" because yeah, thats not cool.

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But this is how they reacted, they are so far up their own ass that its scary thinking about these people walking among us.(and no, I never did that to the users they mentioned- in fact, they actively call himeguts an "abuser" and is one of the kids they support harassment, aka unrelated birdie drama because they obsessed with birdie)

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Also they thought someone who commented on replied to them on Birdie's page was me somehow despite them being a minor with complete different art styles (and i dont even know them, so they arent my follower either)
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Also also according to them, all my followers are 'children ive groomed'. All 265 of them.

The one who made the journal also laughs at me for taking this seriously, because yeah someone calling someone a pedo is pretty serious m8- they sent NSFW to a minor before they made the journal and I made my journals before that- tryna do damage control. This is in response of my one friend who commented on my journal (this is in her own comments on her journal)
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Yeah they only made one, they had like, what? 5 screenshots only to base their claims off of? 3 being out of context and the other ones being them replying to what I said? I dont think you could make it any longer.

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This is their closed speices.

Btw, the 21yr okd is non-binary while the other one is trans (ftm). I dont care if i misgender them lol.

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They have their own 'owgel',

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Another closed species they own their own character for. This ones called a "Hachibo".
The group icon is very ptaku-like, I'm pretty sure they aint even Japanese or whatever.

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Apparently this is called a "Brogodie". They didnt make the species but they designed the character, oh lord what the fuck.

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This ones scary. They are called "Mugushi" and the person made this using a "free MYO event". It's just a fluffy snail.


The 21yr old is also pro-factkin and fictionkin. They made this stamp.
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This is their closed species called "mushimon". This is.. A baby version...

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Another thing to note is that they deflect any criticism (as seen with me) and call people who say stuff that could potentially help them a "fake therapist".

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It's called a "froad".

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Them and another use own this closed species called "Beanlings."

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TL;DR:
Two creepy-ass older adults who falsely accused me of being a pedo, sent NSFW to minors, harasses minors, is pro-factkin and fictionkin, idolizes the mafia, one is obsessed with another LOLCOW, and are generally the reason you should never have kids and how you should avoid anyone in the closed species fandom.

Not a rant, enjoy the circus provided. I'm not sure if I should link their actual accounts or not? Idk, I dont want people contacting them because then they'd piss and shit even more.
 
Homie you know someone could find your account super easy now @deermeat? While I'm sorry you've had a run in with such people, we now know you have a bdsm kink which really is TMI.
 
Kiwi Farms is not your personal army.
Homie you know someone could find your account super easy now @deermeat? While I'm sorry you've had a run in with such people, we now know you have a bdsm kink which really is TMI.
Well it was necessary for context, IDC if yall know I have one or not- or if the general population knows. The point is, they took that aspect and tried to cancel me for it because I made a journal about them harassing a child.
Like that was the 'best' evidence they had and they needed to look into my history to find it. They did all that just out of revenge, thats how insane they are.

Also I am aware you can find their account (or even my account) pretty easily- but that requires more effort than to just have me provide yall with links. Search on your own at your own choice, just be careful.
 
.... Who would've known this thread would actually lure in Closed Species spergs like a honey pot? I KNEW I picked a winner.
 
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