🦊 Furry Closed Species - Pay $500 to draw a bedazzled fox

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stonersunshine said:
Needs to be more talk of people taking existing intellectual property, slapping funny markings on it, and being a jealous dingbat about other people doing the same thing.

These are "Cyberchus", TL;DR they're Pikachus with electronic-themed markings and aesthetics. From the looks of it, it's a completely dead concept now, and has been for almost a decade, but I remember seeing them around a lot, and I remember there being a lot of obnoxious drama surrounding them, the creator, and similar/affiliated groups that all amounted to "I swear to god if you slap paint on a Pikachu in a way I deem too similar to how I did, I'm gonna shit and fart"

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Slapping funny markings on a wolf and calling it an original, closed species is unoriginal as-is, but the idea of taking someone else's original species, putting squiggles on its body, and then frothing at the mouth possessively over your original, closed, super-exclusive concept is almost parodying itself. I don't think designs necessarily need to be "original" to be good, given that almost all art and designs/concepts are derivative in some way or another, and I think Cyberchus are a cute little gimmick- but I really think it all boils down to how you go about handling it all. If they just admitted "yeah, it's Pikachu with funny markings, anyone could do it- let's not take it too seriously and act like we're in court about it", I really wouldn't even bother mentioning them.

But nah, some poor kid who was obviously very young decided to make their own Cyberchu, clearly out of appreciation, and instead of the creators/collaborators recognizing that, here's a bunch of high schoolers ganging up on a kid who's probably like, eleven. Over a drawing of Pikachu.

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"Or I'll report you" yeah, I can see the admins of Deviantart of all places taking this as a grave situation to be dealt with immediately. The only decent thing about this all is that the creator didn't decide they wanted money for recolors.
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Don't these retards realize that the species doesn't belong to RabbidAttack, either? I hate how condescending the top two comments sound, too.
 
Closed species are essentially baby’s first attempt at trademark law except done exclusively by people that have no idea how trademark works and believe that everything can be enforced via vicious Online harassment.

Now if a closed species was essentially part of a larger IP universe the creators of which actively put out content for, and having an official character of that closed species entitled the owner to have their character be considered “canon” within that universe and as a result would show up as background characters or NPCs or what have you, that would be pretty neat and a way to include fans in the creative work itself.

But “this is my neon buttplug fox species it’s original and closed and if I catch you with a neon colored fox with a buttplug in its ass and you didn’t give me money first I’m going to murder your family for realsies” is just AIDS.
 
Ramen Timer said:
Don't these retards realize that the species doesn't belong to RabbidAttack, either? I hate how condescending the top two comments sound, too.
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If Nintendo hated its fans/fanworks any more, it'd at least be a show watching these types fumbling uncomfortably trying to justify their claims of ownership on these things.

Actually this somehow gets worse when I recall very, very serious drama about how coloring a Pikachu blue meant you were ripping off this artist.

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No spats about markings or lore or anything. Just the color blue. If we're at the point where little shits are mauling each other over WHO DID RECOLORS FIRST and getting genuinely worked up about it, I really think kids under 18 shouldn't be allowed on social media. And even then...
 
I gather that despite the anime and pokemon stuff, this "closed species" crap is pretty much a Western thing - and even then not even common in the West?
 
ToroidalBoat said:
I gather that despite the anime and pokemon stuff, this "closed species" crap is pretty much a Western thing - and even then not even common in the West?
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I've never heard of a single instance of this kind of thing happening anywhere in, say, Asia- even in places like Latin America where basically everyone is a batshit weeb (or sometimes furry), it seems less common, to the point where I can't think of an instance there, either. This is, mysteriously, almost exclusively an entirely anglophone phenomenon, and I legitimately have no fucking clue why.

aoaoaoa said:
If this is the Werechu I'm thinking of, this is some good vintage stuff right here.
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Naw, this isn't the dragonfucker, if that's who you're thinking of. This is just some sparkledog artist who had a small, isolated fanbase. They draw generic furry porn for a living now. If only, though.
 
stonersunshine said:
I've never heard of a single instance of this kind of thing happening anywhere in, say, Asia- even in places like Latin America where basically everyone is a batshit weeb (or sometimes furry), it seems less common, to the point where I can't think of an instance there, either. This is, mysteriously, almost exclusively an entirely anglophone phenomenon, and I legitimately have no fucking clue why.
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Going to take a stab at this. I could be very off the mark, any other insight or corrections are welcome.

Adoptable sites were all the rage back in the 2000s. We all knew about Neopets, but there was so many more lurking under the surface. GPX+, VirtuAdopt, Dragon Cave, Pokemon Moon, PokeFarm, PokePlushies-Turned-ClickCritters, ChickenSmoothie, and Squiby. I'm forgetting some. I'm sure of it. The premise was simple: Click an adoptable, level it up. You might get an egg at some point. Put it in your forum signature until it gets enough clicks to hatch. You probably got a monthly adoptable too. Tons of events to keep the userbase going.

If you were active on these sites (and I sure as hell was,) there were rare adoptables that everybody wanted. Something made by a certain artist or released at a very exclusive event.

I feel like involved closed species in its current incarnation is a bastardized version of these websites. Sure, dA base adopts have been a thing forever , but the bigger 'popular' closed species groups run a lot like these websites-- without the forum clicking. Some of them have 'gashapon' or 'blind' adopts. Monthly events. Art contests. Prompts. Raffles. Giveaways. Roleplaying. Sometimes, involved item shops that have in-species currency. There's a lot of similarities with these mid-2000s sites and bigger popular closed species, although obviously it's a lot more decentralized now. The core idea is the same, in my opinion.

...The only bad thing is that there's a giant paywall to enter into a lot of the fun, rather than spending time on minigames for currency to buy or clicking other people's pets. It's a lot more profitable for the owners, but obviously more of a luxury item than a game at this point. This really only applies to the species that have groups that actively run it and host events, or have a strong owner community. Dainties and Legends of Griffia species are perfect examples of this.

With other closed species and adoptables, it's more of a status thing (or just liking the design) then buying into a community of some sort. No autistic analysis sperg there.
 
One of these fuckin' days i'm gonna make an actual legal IP thingamajig once I learn how copyright law works, then shamelessly, unapologetically use as many closed species as I can in the IP. I'll even use the names of the species. I'll even use their precious little OCs which they spend quids on and tear apart their little mean girls mafia, and no amount of online screeching will bypass the power of the law. I will sell merchandise. I will shamelessly license things. I will use merciless corporate power to expose this petty rose tinted world for what it really is.

And there will be nothing they can do about it.

I will wave their colourful creatures in their faces. I will pimp them harder than Lisa Frank. I will see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.

That is, if I acquire any degree of financial power whatsoever.
 
Judes said:
The part with "love", "passion", and that people are supposed to "feel" all the "inspiration" is so unprofessional and pretentious. It's quite obvious for everyone with a single working brain cell that adoptables are one of current market trends. "Passion" and "inspiration" don't matter in art market. Or any market at all. If anything, putting way too much "love" in something that you plan on selling is exhausting and counterproductive for business. "Would I spend any money on this" is not a question one should ask themselves about service or goods they're planning to sell.

I don't understand what exactly are these tips trying to reach. Be a sell out, but mask it behind "fun"? Tips for part-time artists who don't plan on making art their main income? Some psyop to drive people from the market? I legit don't get.
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It's a sad mockery of the artistic integrity of the internet. The very reason I used deviantart in the first place was so I could see amateurs like me drawing whatever they liked for the hell of it. I expected to see people drawing for passion, not for fame or money. And now I have to see this dominating the online art world. This is quite literally the antithesis of everything I sought out web communities for.

And now, they have the gall to believe they are authentic as they once were. They're so greedy their attempts at hiding it fall flatter than most corporations.
 
Teriyaki 69 said:
It's gross and would be funny, but scat porn isn't "problematic" and idk how it would be
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I think they might mean it would be problematic since either casin0s has a fanbase of mainly edgy 15-16 year olds or would have been making this work when they were a minor before they got a large fanbase
 
GayDemiBoy said:
I think they might mean it would be problematic since either casin0s has a fanbase of mainly edgy 15-16 year olds or would have been making this work when they were a minor before they got a large fanbase
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It's tumblr so it's probably the tumblr definition of problematic; "I don't like this so therefore no one can like this and this person who draws/writes/ships it". I mean, yeah it's gross, but it's not worth cancelling anyone over if it's literally the only thing.
 
DungeonMaster said:
One of these fuckin' days i'm gonna make an actual legal IP thingamajig once I learn how copyright law works, then shamelessly, unapologetically use as many closed species as I can in the IP. I'll even use the names of the species. I'll even use their precious little OCs which they spend quids on and tear apart their little mean girls mafia, and no amount of online screeching will bypass the power of the law. I will sell merchandise. I will shamelessly license things. I will use merciless corporate power to expose this petty rose tinted world for what it really is.

And there will be nothing they can do about it.

I will wave their colourful creatures in their faces. I will pimp them harder than Lisa Frank. I will see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.

That is, if I acquire any degree of financial power whatsoever.
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Do it! Make something cute and colourful and I'll support it (maybe, if it suits my tastes).
 
DungeonMaster said:
One of these fuckin' days i'm gonna make an actual legal IP thingamajig once I learn how copyright law works, then shamelessly, unapologetically use as many closed species as I can in the IP. I'll even use the names of the species. I'll even use their precious little OCs which they spend quids on and tear apart their little mean girls mafia, and no amount of online screeching will bypass the power of the law. I will sell merchandise. I will shamelessly license things. I will use merciless corporate power to expose this petty rose tinted world for what it really is.

And there will be nothing they can do about it.

I will wave their colourful creatures in their faces. I will pimp them harder than Lisa Frank. I will see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.

That is, if I acquire any degree of financial power whatsoever.
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Avatar has big nose? Checks out
 
Mountain Dew said:
Just dropping this off here.
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While zoomed out I thought that response said 'run' and tbh that feels more appropriate. Is that a mod response? They... they have to realize, right? There's no way someone sees a question like that and doesn't immediately think 'ah, found the scat fetishist'.
 
BoobWhiskers said:
While zoomed out I thought that response said 'run' and tbh that feels more appropriate. Is that a mod response? They... they have to realize, right? There's no way someone sees a question like that and doesn't immediately think 'ah, found the scat fetishist'.
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$20 is $20.
 
Alright, okay, I haven't seen any mentions of this species at all so-far but it's called Fleuros. It's by someone called Machomilk.
I'm pretty open and used to all the CS bullshit but the fucking MYO prices for this species is $55 and it's unjustifiable as shit because they're just kemonomimi with bone tails and occasionally, bone-patterns in the ears.

it's another species but this Kowaiko is ugly as fuck.
Kowaiko

Shiohh's designs weren't this bad before too...I don't know what the fuck happened.
 
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