Civvie 11 - Retro FPS Boomer

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I might be wrong but I wish I could get the extra enemy count from Extra Crispy without the additional bullshit that comes with it, a la Ultraviolence versus Nightmare. It's still nuts to me that Blood remains in IP hell when you could make an actual Blood 2 that isn't an abortion or called Death Wish, and it would almost be self-generating publicity in terms of nerd excitement over it. (((Influencers))) would Do It For Free even.

Just a big missed opportunity but perhaps in this case, like so many others, dead is better.
 
Brain Problems said:
I might be wrong but I wish I could get the extra enemy count from Extra Crispy without the additional bullshit that comes with it, a la Ultraviolence versus Nightmare. It's still nuts to me that Blood remains in IP hell when you could make an actual Blood 2 that isn't an abortion or called Death Wish, and it would almost be self-generating publicity in terms of nerd excitement over it. (((Influencers))) would Do It For Free even.

Just a big missed opportunity but perhaps in this case, like so many others, dead is better.
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Healthy Boy Brand said:
Doesn't Fresh Supply offer an option for that?
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Yeah, there is an extra difficulty option in Fresh Supply called Made to Order. It lets you adjust things individually, such as damage taken, enemy density, enemy response time and accuracy, and frequency of special attacks like cultist dynamite.

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modern horrors said:
>In 10 years I'm gonna be the dead meme.
You're already a dead meme, Civvie.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIhYbFtXst0
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"I like the writing"
Can't imagine why.
Imagine writing your FPS protagonist as the regional equivalent of a Karen ...and then deciding that the accent wasn't obvious enough so you base all the dialogue around drawing attention to it.
Then she starts talking about "Voodoo 2s" and "Wallhacks" and other words that don't come from women.
Gormless.

This might be one of the most dated games I've seen yet.
Mundane female protagonist. Constant references to "glitches" and attempts to be meta. "Humour" that's just naming popular franchises. More focus on "parody" than being an actual original work.
I even heard sfxr noises!

Also, a skinsuit and "Goodbye Horses" gag from Civvie that is 100% going to be cut out in a future revision.
 
Coolio55 said:
"I like the writing"
Can't imagine why.
Imagine writing your FPS protagonist as the regional equivalent of a Karen ...and then deciding that the accent wasn't obvious enough so you base all the dialogue around drawing attention to it.
Then she starts talking about "Voodoo 2s" and "Wallhacks" and other words that don't come from women.
Gormless.

This might be one of the most dated games I've seen yet.
Mundane female protagonist. Constant references to "glitches" and attempts to be meta. "Humour" that's just naming popular franchises. More focus on "parody" than being an actual original work.
I even heard sfxr noises!

Also, a skinsuit and "Goodbye Horses" gag from Civvie that is 100% going to be cut out in a future revision.
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So, basically this game.

Also "words that dont come from women", fucking lol.
 
So guys, I bought Heretic + Hexen on Nintendo Switch and... where exactly are the "Enhanced Weapon" options? I can't find them. Are they considered cheats?

I looked in all the other menus and they seem to be just not there.

EDIT - Found it. It's when you start a new game. At the difficulty selection, you can press X to bring up Gameplay modifiers.

Also I've noticed that sometimes when you begin a new game, it will display the original difficulty level names ("Thou Needest a Wet Nurse" et al) but other times it will just say "Very Easy" "Easy" etc. Not sure how I triggered that.
 
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modern horrors said:
>In 10 years I'm gonna be the dead meme.
You're already a dead meme, Civvie.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIhYbFtXst0
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I could at least appreciate the game's attempted scope, it also did the same plot device Soma was dick sucked for, only more subtly.

The review ending with promoting another shitty indie shooter that no one will remember is hypocritical. In general the Civvie cameos in those games are reason enough not to buy them.
 
Civvie sort of addresses some of it but it really doesn't come through just how awful this game really is. The game might have a hint of decent writing and competent voice acting, but the actual game and gameplay is equal to the "best" Chinese trash unity/unreal asset flips you can find in the bowels of steam. The shooting is beyond simplistic and the copy and pasting and needless padding is at fucking criminal levels. You play one minute of a level and you've seen the ENTIRE level, it's a joke.

Somewhere out there is an interview with someone involved with the game that shed light on what went wrong but because search engines are so fucking worthless these days I can't find it.
 
Croaking Spider said:
I never could get into the newer Shadow Warrior games because of the systems bloat and nu-Wang being lame.
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Old Wang is like some effortlessly cool grandpa whereas Nu Wang looks like he’s about to pitch you Hustler’s University. You start hating yourself for existing in the same decade as him.

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The tired cat said:
Also "words that dont come from women", fucking lol.
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The "ladette", "one of the boys" archetype is always better as a concept than in execution.

Ion Fury should've have been a straight W, but Shelly's doing this relentless pop culture riffing like she's Xander Harris. It just eats away at the game.
 
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Captain Syrup said:
Ion Fury should've have been a straight W but Shelly's in there doing this relentless 80s pop culture riffing like she's Xander Harris. It just eats away at the game.
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Shelly's voice actor is great but her quips are fucking terrible ...which is a big problem in a Duke Nukem successor.
It really stands out. All the other ingame references are pretty tasteful.

The game as a whole is 10/10 though so it's just a minor gripe.
 
Perfectly cromulent video. Interesting he was bouncing off/around the gameplay changes so much, at least initially. I didn't know they all came from a mod, I thought this was custom to the re-release. Just fucking make a new Heretic and Hexen for fuck sakes, you're already this goddamn close to it with the bullshit nuDoom stuff lately, just go a bit further.
 
Brain Problems said:
Perfectly cromulent video. Interesting he was bouncing off/around the gameplay changes so much, at least initially. I didn't know they all came from a mod, I thought this was custom to the re-release. Just fucking make a new Heretic and Hexen for fuck sakes, you're already this goddamn close to it with the bullshit nuDoom stuff lately, just go a bit further.
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I talked about this on the Doomworld thread, tl;dr the people behind the changes are Doomworld tards with gigantic egos, that get defensive when questioned.
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Post in thread 'Doomworld'

There has been a slapfight in the last few days about the Heretic + Hexen remaster on Doomworld, mainly focused on how Xaser's levels are the default and not the original maps by Nightdive, the people bringing it up have done so in a rather respectful manner, but even with that, Doomworld users can't help themselves but to respond to them in a passive agressive manner, and dismiss it all as LE DUMB GAMUR COMPLIANTZ.
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This one even includes some glazing towards the remaster and Nightdive, before commenting on the issue.
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Rockzo said:
It's Heretic and Hexen.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5VdKDKs5DRI
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Now... in my humble opinion... I think the original games sucked ass and Nightdive did a fucking fantastic job at changing the game to be better.

And, on top of that, they also do have options to revert these changes back to the vanilla experience (something they didn't do with Quake 2). Do I think the options for these enhancements should be more clearer? Absolutely, and Civvie does have a point there. I just feel that it really doesn't matter since the enhanced options is leagues better than the original games. I also feel this is the type of remaster that we should want. Devs going back and testing waters with old games to try to make it better? Sounds great. It's just that the original game isn't the default that kinda feels wrong, but again, Heretic and Hexen kinda sucked, so I don't really care that much. I am just hoping they learn from this, or update it so that the original game is the default rather than the ultra-fixed version.

TL;DR for those that don't want to read a retard's opinion: I don't support making enhanced versions the default, but I don't care specifically for Heretic + Hexen because they sucked originally.
 
Brain Problems said:
Perfectly cromulent video. Interesting he was bouncing off/around the gameplay changes so much, at least initially. I didn't know they all came from a mod, I thought this was custom to the re-release. Just fucking make a new Heretic and Hexen for fuck sakes, you're already this goddamn close to it with the bullshit nuDoom stuff lately, just go a bit further.
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At this point... well, I already low-key had a headcanon that Doom, Heretic/Hexen, and Quake were all in the same universe. If the same company owns all of them now then I would like them to just make that canon.

Actually I thought Doom: the Dark Ages was going to do that. Maybe it did. I didn't play it.

SirThomasMaloryII said:
I think the original games sucked ass
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Hexen I can see as being divisive, but why Heretic?

Personally, all the Doom Engine games are, for me, a case of "if you like one, you like 'em all." I could just never find it in me to get granular enough to play favorites. If I did though, in some ways I kinda prefer Heretic to Doom, if anything just because the constant red and brown gets boring and sometimes I get tired of seeing the same old demons.

At the same time tho, again saying "I love Heretic but hate Doom" feels a lot like saying "I love Mega Man 6 but hate Mega Man 5." It just doesn't parse.
 
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skykiii said:
At the same time tho, again saying "I love Heretic but hate Doom" feels a lot like saying "I love Mega Man 6 but hate Mega Man 5." It just doesn't parse.
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Well I love Mega Man 6 but hate Mega Man 5. 6 is like 2 but more, 5 has those weird cloaked bosses you have to guess who they actually are before setting your weapon and it sucks, also the slowdowns and weapons that were not very fun to use.

Same fore Mega Man 3 vs 4. 3 has slowdowns so bad it's basically unplayable and the weapons suck ass while 4 is a retread of 2.
 
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