Cuntspiracy Man
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I can't imagine anyone would be in a good mental state in they were reduced to the "Chris Chan documentary guy"
Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History
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Reminds me of something I once heard an old man say "I don't hate 'em 'cuz they're yellow, I hate 'em 'cuz they're Red!". And, well, Pre-Maoist China had millenia of cultural heritage comparable to the great civilizations of the West. Another thing Commies fucked up.
Japs are pretty based.
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Is he unfamiliar with old DVD boxsets that were like 20+ discs? I mean, we're talking blu-rays so I know the cost of production would be higher. Still, as a niche item I'm sure he could get enough people on board.
It's been weird there's not been any new episodes. I know he kind of caught up but there's enough to talk about post arrest nowadays. Did he outright end the series with the last part? And he's just cruising by selling his own versions of CWC items?
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I don't know why he's wasted so much time "remastering" the series when it was already fine to begin with. He actually already remastered it once when he started uploaded a Comprehensive History again when his channel got deleted. I don't even that those original videos were that different than the current ones but I don't even know were you would be able to find them. I know that there was some old Chris lore that was uncovered recently but he's been planning on this since before it was uncovered.
SamuellyGenie
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I feel like this newest current iteration will be the best yet and best reflects what I feel the series should feel like. The earliest episodes especially are kinda mean spirited as I followed the cwcki's attitudes and mantra too much, but eventually I found my own footing. Admittedly, the second half isn't that much different apart from some added minor events here and there, but I did make the narration pacing and mixing match what I eventually ended up doing by the end.
idk maybe I'm autistic
A 3 disk set would've been priced at about $150, so a 30+ set would be horribly expensive to produce and sell
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Who would and why would they buy a Blu-ray or DVD set of a series that is available for free online? They aren't some masterpieces of cinema or that interesting, and even then one can just use yt-dlp or some youtube video downloader site and viola. I just don't see the reason for it.
I guess the novelty of "I own CCaCH on Blu-ray/DVD" is significant for some.
I guess the novelty of "I own CCaCH on Blu-ray/DVD" is significant for some.
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Some people do like physical media for sure but I could also just DL and burn the episodes to disk for way less if I was so inclined though. I'm sure there's a market but it would have to be like a 50 or 100 piece run. Which would then make it even more expensive with low volume probably.
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Exactly. I like to have physical media copies of what I feel are important videos, and if I felt so about this series I would simply download and burn them to DVDs, I have no need or desire for boxed packaged DVDs except for really exceptional media like The Lord of the Rings extended editions and such.
I would think the market for professionally done DVD releases of a niche project like the complete history of Chris-Chan would be so small as to make producing them uneconomically viable.
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I’m curious, how much work does it take to remaster take? Do you have to re edit the videos from scratch when you’re redoing the ones that aren’t that different?
Is that just because you’re doing it independently? Just for a comparison , the bluray set of Star Trek TNG has 40 discs and costs 160$ online.
I mean James Rolfe has been making DVDs and blu rays of AVGN for years. I think that people just want physical versions of a series the like.
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Personally, I’m definitely gonna watch the remastered versions to take a trip down memory lane, at least until the troonout saga (or maybe Idea Guys) and then the last couple parts.
@SamuellyGenie will these contain the stuff that Statustjuj leaked late last year? I remember you mentioning it’ll have the bodycam.
@SamuellyGenie will these contain the stuff that Statustjuj leaked late last year? I remember you mentioning it’ll have the bodycam.
SamuellyGenie
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Honestly it took me way longer than what I would've liked because I have a wee baby, and there's some other local dealings to deal with often which I won't talk about (yet). So this remastering took over two years I think.
Parts 1-43 have newly recorded narration tracks, some parts have lots of new/different stuff. So for these, I slot in the new narration audio into the project files and have to re-sync the whole video and background audio around the new narration.
For the latter half, I cut out lots of empty space in my talking, since my pacing back then seemed very stilted, so I did this in effort to match these episodes to the way I talk now.
And I also came up with a new more elegant way to highlight the text that I'm reading out, so I redid every single instance of that. It wasn't difficult, but it was a very long and teidous process.
We're talking to another guy now about the Blu-rays and think we can pull it off and make a set of 7-8 disks, but the quality has to be 720p. Though a new issue here is that it cannot be truly uncensored because if we're caught selling nudity we'd be jailed.
Yes, most of the Statustjej leaks have been slotted in, including stuff that no one mentioned, like some of Chris' earliest videos in a much higher quality than what was previously available.
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Just watched episode one of the remaster. Great job, Geno.
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To touch on this for Kiwis who might not be familiar with mastering and producing physical media, niche or low circulation projects tend to get hit with higher manufacturing costs because the creators tend not to get a bulk discount, or if they do it's only a minor one for barely crossing the first threshold where bulk discounts are offered.
(edit 2: The cost figure in this equation is slightly off because the sample I used was accounting for custom BLANK discs, not ones with content on them. So the actual price is far more expensive than this.)
I did some very basic research into this and did some educated guessing with the numbers for an example:
- The average length of an episode of the Chris-Chan series is about 45 minutes.
- According to the playlist, there are 86 episodes of the series.
- 86 episodes x 45 minutes = 3,870 minutes
- A dual-layer Bluray disc (industry standard) holds 240 minutes of video at 1080p.
- 3,870 minutes of video / 240 minutes per disc = 16.125 dual-layer Blurays (17, to round up)
- It costs about $2.40 to manufacture one dual-layer Bluray disc.
- 17 Bluray discs x $2.40 = $40.80 cost of production PER SET.
That $40.80 only counts for the discs themselves, no cases or anything else (though in most cases the label applied to the disc is included). These aren't just single disc things that can go in a standard Bluray case, there's at least 17 discs so that means your standard double-disc case or even the quad-disc cases you can sometimes find will not work. Best case scenario, Geno would need five of the quad-disc cases per release at minimum and unless he's fine with those cases just being five individual numbered things he might also want to spring for a cardboard sleeve/box for them all to go in. Given that Geno said "3 discs was $150" that's probably an all-in affair that would've included manufacturing/printing of the cases and a box to go with them. (edit: He may have also been looking into triple-layer discs as well, which do have a higher capacity but also cost a lot more money to produce as a result.)
It's definitely the kind of thing that would be best done via Kickstarter or something to try and get the money upfront via presales, but even then using Kickstarter will further inflate the price per by proxy because Kickstarter takes so much fucking money via "service fees" and you also have to pay taxes on money you get from Kickstarter (also Geno is in China I think so Kickstarter might not even be an option). The amount Geno would have to charge to break even, let alone make profit on it, would discourage most potential buyers who'd probably only be in at a significantly lower price point for what amounts to a niche Internet novelty item.
(Source: I am friends with someone who wanted to make an "Internet show on physical media" release for his niche diehard fanbase, but he was immediately discouraged when he saw how much it was going to cost per unit.)
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SamuellyGenie
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motherfucker who makes it this cheap?? If these numbers are legit, please DM me. From my side, it would've cost more than three times that for less disks.
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I may have had a tard moment and given some bad figures, I was just quickly going through various services I saw and this one that skewed the average down looks like it's just for blank BD-R discs that have nothing on them, but have custom labels applied and sent to you (for you to then presumably burn yourself). In my haste I lumped this in with the other services that offer label printing AND the production/duplication services on top of that (which you are right, is a lot more expensive).
Decided to post this public instead of a DM so other Kiwis know I'm a Big Stupid.
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@SamuellyGenie fantastic work on the first remastered part! Shows how much you’ve grown as a documentarian since the original.
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Thanks anyway! Yeah, if they're just BD-Rs it would be very cheap, however actual Blu-ray authoring is horribly expensive, and since I was going thru Chinese manufacturers, it would have already been much cheaper than what's available in the west.
Edit: Just to add, someone on Reddit was listing off all these other box sets like South Park and Sopranos and how many hours they were and how much less they cost than my proposed $250 plan. People just don't understand the production costs of merch from a niche creator. Like sure, if I could guarantee 100,000 sold units, I'd make the sets as cheap as the South Park one too