Chainsaw Man - Peak Fiction in the making

[Susie Legion Simp]

MMmmm yeah I've been a fan of the series since the very first chapter, I both really like the ending and am disappointed by it. I like it because my biggest desire throughout the second part of the series was for Denji to fulfill his contract with Power and befriend the Blood Devil again... well it may be right at the end, but that's been fulfilled, and it's Power herself who is by far my favorite character in the entire series. Also Denji gets a better life without everyone coming after him because of Pochita. It also leaves things open for if the Author wants to have adventures with a different character in the same world. Also Asa got a better life with Yoru switched out for Bucky.

It was disappointing because I love the series and wanted more, and there are unanswered questions. Mainly I wanted to see Death at full power as she was being hyped up so much (I guess Denjiman was the Nostradamus prophecy fulfillment though as has been mentioned here.) but I guess if she actually tried then she'd be too powerful no matter what the characters would do. I wanted to see an adventure in Hell since we only ever got small glimpses of the place. But those are just my personal irks.
There's still a question of what Devil Pochita was exactly? The main theory I thought was likely, was that he was the "Devil" Devil because of his wiping out the concepts of Devils he ate (Even Denji said it made no sense for a Chainsaw). But there are still Devils so obviously not. And since Chainsaws still exist he apparently wasn't just the basic Chainsaw Devil either, so what was he? I guess maybe it's better if it remains a mystery.

Anyways I'll take this over an ending like Fire Punch or what Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo just pulled (Devils being wiped out of existence would have completely ruined it for me). Denji is also basically married to Power now so there's that. The ending was surprisingly "happy" and Denji sort of got punished for his behaviour throughout the series without actually being punished.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Oh? Did you forget that the entire part started with a girl named Asa?

Might've been about Asa, but this is Denji's story and it ended with a them likely, reuniting as a pair later. I really think everyone is completely overreacting about this and the hate is completely undeserved. I can't really understand what more people wanted or really wrap my head around it. I guess I'll just address some criticisms, I've seen.

1. What about Kishibe? He hasn't been seen in over 200 chapters and we were told he retired. He's old. Leave him alone and let him have his somewhat happy ending.

2. What about Asa/Yoru's development? Yoru was a flat out villain and there was generally not other way this could've ended. I'm sorry if you wanted Yoru to maybe turn good and fight alongside Chainsawman....But this was kind of always how it was going to go.

3. Nothing in Part 2 mattered? I'd say it did. It's pretty clear Pochita is still with Denji.... somewhere inside of him.

4. What about the other characters? I'll give this one, they suck. But who really cares about Katana Man? Honestly, do you REALLY care?

5. Denji hasn't changed. Who says a character has to change? Sure, Denji changed but it was subtle. The whole point of Pochita's sacrifice was that he wanted to give Denji a chance to develop his life naturally. That's kind of what he did. Without superpowers, he's just a dog like he wanted. Except now it's to Power whom he's friendly with and not Makima.

6. What about Asa/Den? Ship em. Fuck it, he gives you the panels. Use your imagination. Or don't and ship another pair. He did give us that fanart of Denji and Reze if you're a Rezefag. Or if you like him and Power, go nuts.

7. It feels rushed. Again, I reread it, but I don't agree. I think when the anime comes out, you'll see the pacing is pretty fair. It spins it's wheels a little bit, but if you reread it, it makes sense. Think of it like a video game and Denji makes all the Bad Choices for the Bad Ending and I think what Fujimoto is going for makes a lot more sense. Reading this across years on release is harder to convey this.

 

[Cryogonal2]

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thank you for giving your thoughts on the ending without mentioning the big lebowski

 

[Two Hands]

Chainsaw Man is the new Evangelion. In 30 years, AsaGODS will win as she is confirmed best waifu in an anniversary short.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I guarantee this is the reaction he wanted, so he absolutely delivered on that.

I don’t hate the ending, nor do I think it’s absolutely the greatest. I’d say I like it but wish/think it needed a bit more.

 

[MightyMorphin'Willbender]

I kind of like the ending, bitches out there saying it's the worse since JJK be tripping.
Not entirely sure we needed that whooooole deathless fight just for this not very cathartic ending, but I kinda appreciate the "denji is forcibly over his main character syndrome".

Things aren't perfect, but at least calamitous things aren't happening just because you befriended a weird dog.
So he's content.Even if he's missing out on the INTENSE LOVE RELANTIONSHIPS with soviet trained assassins or the knights of the apocalipse

 

[Tor Lugosi]

begun, the Great Coping has

 

[Toha Heavy Industries]

Nice another 14-Sai. Liked it overall.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

Might've been about Asa, but this is Denji's story and it ended with a them likely, reuniting as a pair later.

See, this here is just a dogshit defense. Not only is Part 2 not even start as Denji's story, but this only makes Asa completely irrelevant to her own fate. What was the point of her entire struggle?

1. What about Kishibe? He hasn't been seen in over 200 chapters and we were told he retired. He's old. Leave him alone and let him have his somewhat happy ending.

That was never said. What are you even talking about?

2. What about Asa/Yoru's development? Yoru was a flat out villain and there was generally not other way this could've ended. I'm sorry if you wanted Yoru to maybe turn good and fight alongside Chainsawman....But this was kind of always how it was going to go.

Wow, now you're using a stupid claim that people wanted her to become good. No, she was a villain that ended up doing nothing. She never even got to fight Chainsaw Man properly. We wanted to see Chainsaw Man beat her. We didn't.

3. Nothing in Part 2 mattered? I'd say it did.

Too bad the literal story disagrees with you. They literally reset the ending even though that's not how the Chainsaw Devil works. The present should still be Denji being eaten alive by bugs.

4. What about the other characters? I'll give this one, they suck. But who really cares about Katana Man? Honestly, do you REALLY care?

Bitch, did you forget Reze? The literal only Hybrid to not appear again?

5. Denji hasn't changed. Who says a character has to change?

HE WANTED TO CHANGE.

6. What about Asa/Den? Ship em. Fuck it, he gives you the panels. Use your imagination.

Holy shit, what kind of ass defense is this? There's not even anything to imagine anymore.

7. It feels rushed. Again, I reread it, but I don't agree. I think when the anime comes out, you'll see the pacing is pretty fair. It spins it's wheels a little bit, but if you reread it, it makes sense. Think of it like a video game and Denji makes all the Bad Choices for the Bad Ending and I think what Fujimoto is going for makes a lot more sense. Reading this across years on release is harder to convey this.

Even more complete bullshit. The 3rd to the last chapter ends with "rocks and everyone dies"? You think that makes sense?

 

[verissimus]

And the Death Devil, whateva happened there-

I haven't laughed so hard in awhile despite being all too familiar with this reference.

Chainsaw Man is the new Evangelion. In 30 years, AsaGODS will win as she is confirmed best waifu in an anniversary short.

The overwhelming majority of people are either going to forget or be too absorbed by the next thing to come out.

 

[Gimmick Account]

I think part 2 did a good job of getting me into a "yeah, whatever, sure." headspace by the end. So the ending was fine, since I don't really care.

I still think it'll work infinitely better animated since the momentum and audio and stuff will be able to foreshadow all this, but I've been saying since the beginning that it's felt more like a storyboard for the anime than a standalone manga.

There's still a question of what Devil Pochita was exactly? The main theory I thought was likely, was that he was the "Devil" Devil because of his wiping out the concepts of Devils he ate (Even Denji said it made no sense for a Chainsaw). But there are still Devils so obviously not. And since Chainsaws still exist he apparently wasn't just the basic Chainsaw Devil either, so what was he? I guess maybe it's better if it remains a mystery.

he was the plot devil

 

[Thiletonomics]

I'm so happy. Not just because the ending is so divisive. Not because I don't mind it and think it's cute, but because Jujutsu and Chainsaw fans will be debating which ending was worse for eternity.

Thank you ending devil for forever cursing the Japanese.

Will they also debate the Usagi Drop, Attack on Titan, Mass Effect 3, and Game of Thrones fans to see who had the worst ending? Heck, you can even add WWE and John Cena's retirement arc (HE GAVE UP LIKE A LITTLE BITCH) to that list too.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

See, this here is just a dogshit defense. Not only is Part 2 not even start as Denji's story, but this only makes Asa completely irrelevant to her own fate. What was the point of her entire struggle?

If you didn't get what Asa really wanted by now, go back and re-read it. Denji gave Asa a chance to come out of her shell and live a normal life just like Pochita gave Denji.

To me, at least, I think Denji and Asa both due to their decisions got them a Bad Ending. The world being fucked up is just as much of Asa's fault as it was Yoru's and Denji's.

Bitch, did you forget Reze? The literal only Hybrid to not appear again?

I'm sorry but when you make something special, I don't agree with tarnishing it. I think the one instance of Reze reappearing as a slave of Makima was enough and we never needed to see her afterwards. I don't just agree with Fujimoto's restraint, I respect it.

If you want, I could elaborate why reviving sacred characters sucks, but that's a long rant.

 

[TommyHeavenly6]

Might've been about Asa, but this is Denji's story and it ended with a them likely, reuniting as a pair later. I really think everyone is completely overreacting about this and the hate is completely undeserved. I can't really understand what more people wanted or really wrap my head around it.

What I've noticed from seeing this kind of thing play out again and again is the unanswered questions, mysteries and "plot holes" keep a series relevant way longer than something that ends perfectly. Sure people may love Death Note or Full Metal but there aren't really still people theory crafting, making their own what-if scenarios or just posting about how much "the ending was a let down" like you see for things like Naruto (Which I still can't believe is super popular to this day). I wonder if editorial encourages that sort of thing because in the long run it makes the IP more money

Will they also debate the Usagi Drop, Attack on Titan, Mass Effect 3, and Game of Thrones fans to see who had the worst ending? Heck, you can even add WWE and John Cena's retirement arc (HE GAVE UP LIKE A LITTLE BITCH) to that list too.

I didn't watch any of those but anything that made people extremely mad is eligible probably

 

[Dickus Biggus]

Man who worships Pedowood can't write an ending? Shocking. Don't forget Fire Punch had a pooner and was about incest.

 

[Gimmick Account]

AoT was totally on the fans, it had a normal ending. It was mostly just retards mad about not getting their headcannon happy ends.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

If you didn't get what Asa really wanted by now, go back and re-read it. Denji gave Asa a chance to come out of her shell and live a normal life just like Pochita gave Denji.

To me, at least, I think Denji and Asa both due to their decisions got them a Bad Ending. The world being fucked up is just as much of Asa's fault as it was Yoru's and Denji's.

No, what was Asa supposed to do? She had no agency at the end because she had no information about anything. Yoru refused to tell her. Everything Asa did was to save Denji from being Chainsaw Man, and what's so bad about that?
She wanted a life where she was wanted, and this ending barely gives a hint to that.

I'm sorry but when you make something special, I don't agree with tarnishing it. I think the one instance of Reze reappearing as a slave of Makima was enough and we never needed to see her afterwards. I don't just agree with Fujimoto's restraint, I respect it.

If you want, I could elaborate why reviving sacred characters sucks, but that's a long rant

"well they shouldn't revive sacred characters"
"that's why it's good that the series LITERALLY JUST DID THAT"

 

[Lizard Machine Bugs]

Denji's life doesn't actually seem that terrible and he's healthy enough too. Did Asa "reinvent" Chainsaw Man when she called Denji that?

Probably not, I don't think him saving Asa would have been framed alongside him dropping a chainsaw if that was the case.

 

[Total Troons Death]

Lol lmao another series with bad ending. What's worse it actually copy solo leveling ending but way worse lmao. Imagine being worse than series known for aura farm.

At least in solo leveling the ending make sense. Everything reset and there's no exception. Everyone that's dead coming back to life. But this shit doesn't make sense. Power is back but why the fuck nayuta is the control devil not makima? Isn't it supposed to be reset? Not to mention fujimoto also doesn't show snippet what's happening to some character like aki or reze. At least solo leveling ending show other character in ending.

 

[Bolo_the_Second]

To be clear, I don't think anyone was expecting a clean cut, every plotline adressed and every character had their arc concluded, that is not how Fujimoto writes.

But you can't just stop the story dead on the tracks right in it's climax, just so next chapter Pochita would hit the reset button and give us a cop out altenate reality. This isn't a stylistic choice so much that is a "fuck it, I give up."

And we have seen that CSM was struggling to find it's stride in the latter half of part 2. While part 1 was a well oiled machine with each chapter putting the pace to story, part 2 devolved into misery porn and Denji just being horny halfway through.

It is a shame, but honestly, part 1 of CSM is so great, and ended in such a strong note, that I can just ignore part 2 and nothing will be missed... I mean, I like Asa, but that's about it.