UN Catalonian Referendum Thread

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All the twitter posts about this are videos of the police beating up Grandmas.

This is gonna be good.
 
Like literally anybody that's not from Spain, this is looking like a bewildering tussle between the one ibero gypsies vs. the other ibero gypsies. I'd genuinely love to know more about the whole thing because right at this moment it sure looks like the EU baselessly cracking down on humans with jackbooted thugs.

Then again, I seem to hear that if the catalans win it's going to be communist paradise with 24/7 Arab enrichment at every corner, so at least Merkel doesn't have to flee the continent after fucking it over once her retirement is up.
 
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Even if they do (by which I mean almost certainly will), that won't shut everything down, and Catalonia is fairly rich and powerful in the internal context. They will resist economically and politically and claim martyrdom- which many will agree with. They have a lot of backers in and outside of Spain.

The EU will take time to interfere- if Spain let's them- it will likely try to fix things on their own first. It, like many members states, wants concessions from the EU and won't want to surrender key sovereignties just yet. Appear weak. Secessionist movements additionally have a long history of successes and body counts in the Kingdom as well, plus Spain is something of a paper tiger militarily and in terms of unity. A lot of people in Spain, particularly secessionist regions, won't likely care if Catalonia leaves. Plus, a guerrilla war is always a possibility years down the road. Spain is bloody awful at those. They have worked in Western Europe before, too.

This situation will likely take months to resolve consider Spain's most important regional government is nearly unanimously in support of independence. But I don't actually predict bloodshed or a real war like so many alarmists. I just think Spain is going to end one way or another eventually and this is another sign of it weakening.

Even if they do fail, this could only be the beginning. Spain is very fragile as a union.
 
Rajoy is an authoritarian douche, I hope he resigns soon

Naaah, at least not for this particular case. He handled it poorly, but he was on the right anyways. All the cases of corruption where he could be involved more or less directly though... That's a different story. Also, I would say he is more a fool and a retard than purely authoritarian.

But if that didn't happen already, is not gonna happen anytime soon. The best you could hope is general elections sooner (improbable, and it would mean absolute majority to the PP right now).
 
Apparently, the firefighters got involved and started protecting polling stations by the end.

Voting has now ended by the way, with a projected turnout of 57%, which is probably only so low due to the state violence and stolen ballots of course.
 
Voting has now ended by the way, with a projected turnout of 57%, which is probably only so low due to the state violence and stolen ballots of course.
so that means catalonia has a chance at becoming independent right?
 
this is all a ploy from Europe to avoid having to cover the Iraqi Kurdistan independence and force them to stay under the boot of Bagdad
 
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