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What is your favorite car? (Top 3)

  • Ame Sea

    Votes: 9 2.4%
  • Ferd

    Votes: 81 21.7%
  • Chevus

    Votes: 33 8.8%
  • Crintzler

    Votes: 5 1.3%
  • Doge

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Beem Dubya

    Votes: 32 8.6%
  • Mersaydis

    Votes: 32 8.6%
  • Volts-Wagon

    Votes: 34 9.1%
  • FIOT

    Votes: 8 2.1%
  • Joop

    Votes: 23 6.1%
  • Alphonse Romero

    Votes: 9 2.4%
  • Vulva

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • Teslur

    Votes: 10 2.7%
  • Mincooper

    Votes: 7 1.9%
  • Knee-Son

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Hun-die

    Votes: 13 3.5%
  • Toyoder

    Votes: 134 35.8%
  • Hondo

    Votes: 95 25.4%
  • Subrue

    Votes: 48 12.8%

  • Total voters
    374
It's crazy to think that we're near the limit of ICE technology for cars. It's seems like every new car out there is way faster than anything I drove growing up in even the 2000s.

Take for example the new top trim Tesla's. Love them or hate them, you have to agree they're incredible. In my small town one of those would blow the doors off everything. 1/4 mile easily under 10 seconds, and unlike a true and honest modified drag car, you can still drive your mom to the grocery store when you're done. I heard those suckers are getting to the point where the acceleration is limited by the traction it can get from the friction, aero and gravity.

My dad was about to tell me the cheapest fastest American cars you can buy today and I interrupted him by asking if he was think of a used model S, and it embarrassed him a bit because it's not the mustang 500 or dodge demon.

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to get my progressive carburetor to work right so it doesn't die between downshifts.
 
So recently, I learned that yellow sac spiders are attracted to the scent of gasoline. I discovered this because I'd been dealing with the buggers setting up shop by the exhaust of my car while it was parked.

It turns out that driving around in maximum exhaust fart/anti-lag.mode all the time left just enough unburned gas to bring them all to the party when I parked the car. Switching back to normal mode five minutes before getting home solved my spider problem completely.
 
It's crazy to think that we're near the limit of ICE technology for cars. It's seems like every new car out there is way faster than anything I drove growing up in even the 2000s.

Take for example the new top trim Tesla's. Love them or hate them, you have to agree they're incredible. In my small town one of those would blow the doors off everything. 1/4 mile easily under 10 seconds, and unlike a true and honest modified drag car, you can still drive your mom to the grocery store when you're done. I heard those suckers are getting to the point where the acceleration is limited by the traction it can get from the friction, aero and gravity.

My dad was about to tell me the cheapest fastest American cars you can buy today and I interrupted him by asking if he was think of a used model S, and it embarrassed him a bit because it's not the mustang 500 or dodge demon.

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to get my progressive carburetor to work right so it doesn't die between downshifts.
Yeah but you can't toss around a tesla, or really an electric car, the way you can a Miata or a 911, mostly because the battery is essentially a half ton anchor. Even the GT500 is more agile.
 
Yeah but you can't toss around a tesla, or really an electric car, the way you can a Miata or a 911, mostly because the battery is essentially a half ton anchor. Even the GT500 is more agile.
There's a video by Throttle house where they track a model s plaid that shows just how heavy that thing is and how under powered the brakes are. But my dislike of tesla is more for the fact that it's basically a redditor's car company.
 
First off saying we are closing on peak ICE is commie talk and I will personally take you out back and shoot you in the shed, commie. ICE is fucking amazing and yes it's getting crazy better but literally we have amazing reports yarrow boilers were the peak..... talking 7% efficient, now I don't like elec cars for a few things but I don't want to count ICE out unless it's legally shut down. Mazda is also killing it with that game. I think until we get some new wave (that we won't get paid for under gov bux etc) ICE is having hard times, but near peak? with what we have.

Now unrelated in the mid atlantic gap.. my friends dad got his c8 today in a fucking snow storm. Heart breaking lol.

Also I swung by my pops, who just got his new to him WRX, that shit is FIRE in snow. I know how to drive in snow and all and it's well tired for winter but I hit some black ice car saw it and dropped power to rest of 3 wheels. I got a little salty when I went back from picking dinner up for him, radio chose to rick roll me :| also idiots thinking tail me at half a length.

Me being a tard took the jag out turned off all comp shit and ran 360s in cul de sac till my neighbors told me to stop. God I love torque lol.
 
First off saying we are closing on peak ICE is commie talk and I will personally take you out back and shoot you in the shed, commie. ICE is fucking amazing and yes it's getting crazy better but literally we have amazing reports yarrow boilers were the peak..... talking 7% efficient, now I don't like elec cars for a few things but I don't want to count ICE out unless it's legally shut down. Mazda is also killing it with that game. I think until we get some new wave (that we won't get paid for under gov bux etc) ICE is having hard times, but near peak? with what we have.

Now unrelated in the mid atlantic gap.. my friends dad got his c8 today in a fucking snow storm. Heart breaking lol.

Also I swung by my pops, who just got his new to him WRX, that shit is FIRE in snow. I know how to drive in snow and all and it's well tired for winter but I hit some black ice car saw it and dropped power to rest of 3 wheels. I got a little salty when I went back from picking dinner up for him, radio chose to rick roll me :| also idiots thinking tail me at half a length.

Me being a tard took the jag out turned off all comp shit and ran 360s in cul de sac till my neighbors told me to stop. God I love torque lol.
I hope you're right, for the sake of the V8s

Now the Tesla being cornered? I live in the United States, and more specifically the middle bits. There are very few turns where a true track king would be useful here. Nothing matters except stoplight to stoplight to people like me.

However, I forgot about the sucky brakes. That's inexcusable to have subpar brakes.
 
Judy Garland's first car.

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Something about 30s-40s American cars that are bulky.
 
re: Peak ICE

I doubt we've reached it. The new GT3 engine has been described as a turbo charged unit without turbos. It is very sophisticated. I do think that we're probably close to the limits of reasonable tire and grip.

I think with ICE the situation isn't have we reached an end but have we got to a point where the updates, increases in power, and etc are worth the additional complexity and cost. Volvo has a pretty stout 2 liter I4 but that stoutness comes at being both turbo charged, super charged and battery assisted.

At some point, simplicity in electric is going to be the mass market appeal.

I, for one, am interested in seeing a potential resurgence in "coach building" once we see more and more electric platforms out there. Everyone will have their skateboard, how you differentiate between it outward is going to matter a whole lot. Maybe we'll stop seeing everything become a jellybean on wheels that it has become today.
 
I think we're nowhere near the limits of the internal combustion engine, but we are probably getting to the limits of petroleum's capabilities. Hydrogen, helium and plutonium are the obvious choices but we're gigantic pussies about doing anything cool ever since the 60s
 
The GT3 engine is really neat. An absolute testament to what you can achieve with an advanced tune and without forced induction

Engines are getting very complicated, but with higher benefits. Engine building uses that same triangle that most things do: price, performance, and reliability, and you want only pick 2 yadda yadda. We're here now where everything is pretty reliable, very fast, and now relatively cheap. There's not many cars that are sub 100 HP these days

For squeezing more rotational energy out of each drop of gas? I'm not sure if we can get much better than where we're at, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
I think we're nowhere near the limits of the internal combustion engine, but we are probably getting to the limits of petroleum's capabilities. Hydrogen, helium and plutonium are the obvious choices but we're gigantic pussies about doing anything cool ever since the 60s
Speaking of that LNG (nat gas) is going to be a thing growing infact my WASPY suburbs all the buses are. How I found out, I saw a BANKS POWER sticker on side of a bus and thought lol good lulz from the driver, much like my old mail man had a turbo sticker on his little shitty truck.

Banks does the converting from diesel to NG. Same guy. NYC all the non first responders are NG cars now (and ford).

Some local places are moving trash trucks to them too. For those not knowing LG is cheap doesn't have much pick up but going to things that don't need it, and also not as dirty.

I agree fuel is something we need to find better than petrol but with the insane shit you can do off 87, direct injected, maybe we'll just be like we were 80+ years ago and just move up the octane rating? I mean back in the day 60 octane was race car/planes etc. But also running 8.:1 compression vs fucking 14:1 now on a entry level mazda.

Personally I stand by ICE is going to be law killed before it dies on tech.
 
Any of you ever visit the Lane motor museum in Nashville? I went there recently and it was really neat. It's mostly European cars, which I don't see a lot of at car shows, besides obvious ones like Porsches and maybe the odd Lamborghini
 
Serious/retarded question: how important is replacing your a) transmission fluid and b) radiator fluid in late 90s-early 2000s (or really any) car right on the date? I've heard mixed things from old farts from the last century and what the manufacturers say to do (always along the line of "use premium gas only"). I'm not sure what the truth is and would like your opinions my frens.

Valvoline Instant Oil Change badger me about both of these and I'm curious how serious I should take them (yes, I'm a "failure of a man" for not changing my own oil -- I can't due to living in an apartment).
 
Serious/retarded question: how important is replacing your a) transmission fluid and b) radiator fluid in late 90s-early 2000s (or really any) car right on the date? I've heard mixed things from old farts from the last century and what the manufacturers say to do (always along the line of "use premium gas only"). I'm not sure what the truth is and would like your opinions my frens.

Valvoline Instant Oil Change badger me about both of these and I'm curious how serious I should take them (yes, I'm a "failure of a man" for not changing my own oil -- I can't due to living in an apartment).
It depends on the car and mileage. On certain Euro cars with the ZF autos that have gone over ~100k miles, you shouldn't replace the trans fluid. Instead, capture the used fluid, replace the filter, and fill up with the old fluid. I figure you can replace the fluid without worry in most American and Japanese auto boxes though. You should be doing coolant replacement every 3 or so years. If you haven't and the fluid is dark, best to replace asap and do a coolant flush along with replacing hoses, thermostat, and water pump. More than likely the bearings and seals are shot on the water pump if original.
 
My favorite time of the year to live in Arizona kicks off this week.

Barrett-Jackson and they're celebrating their 50th year. It's funny how it's changed and grown since the 80's. Used to be a lot of pre-war vehicles, rare pricey stuff like Delahantes, Cords, Packards, etc. That went bye-bye in the 90s and now the top sellers are all muscle cars and restomods. You really don't see much vintage stuff these days.

Still, a great auction and where you'll see (but can't afford) the best of the best.
 
My favorite time of the year to live in Arizona kicks off this week.

Barrett-Jackson and they're celebrating their 50th year. It's funny how it's changed and grown since the 80's. Used to be a lot of pre-war vehicles, rare pricey stuff like Delahantes, Cords, Packards, etc. That went bye-bye in the 90s and now the top sellers are all muscle cars and restomods. You really don't see much vintage stuff these days.

Still, a great auction and where you'll see (but can't afford) the best of the best.
I'm on the Southern side of the state and surprisingly this place has tons of old rat-rods that do poker runs and diner car shows on a monthly basis. It's cool until you get stuck behind them on a long highway
 
I'm on the Southern side of the state and surprisingly this place has tons of old rat-rods that do poker runs and diner car shows on a monthly basis. It's cool until you get stuck behind them on a long highway
I'll PM ya a link to the Good Guys Finals in Scottsdale. I take my Nikon and go nutz. Lots of Rat Rods ahoy. And always, an unbelievable good time.
 
re: Peak ICE

I doubt we've reached it. The new GT3 engine has been described as a turbo charged unit without turbos. It is very sophisticated. I do think that we're probably close to the limits of reasonable tire and grip.
Much of the talk about the death of ICE seems to be coming from European manufacturers, where there is immense pressure to abandon ICE-powered light vehicles due to regulatory changes ranging from tightened emissions standards (think Euro 7) and some countries just flat out banning ICE-powered light vehicles.

My strong tip: Mazda will be one of the last ICE-powered vehicle manufacturers standing. They have a tradition of pushing ahead with engine technology years after it's been abandoned by the mainstream (i.e. rotary engines) and their major markets are Japan, the USA and Australia. The only one of these markets where there's a set date for new ICE-powered vehicles to be withdrawn from sale is Japan, and even then hybrids will remain legal.

Another reason why I'm picking Mazda as the last of the holdouts: they've just developed an inline 6 cylinder ICE which is due to debut this year. Just as Kia is about to can the Stinger and go all-in on BEVs, Mazda is releasing a RWD Mazda6 with this new engine.

If Mazda need JDM BEVs, they can just tap another manufacturer on the shoulder and start rebadging someone else's vehicles.
I think with ICE the situation isn't have we reached an end but have we got to a point where the updates, increases in power, and etc are worth the additional complexity and cost. Volvo has a pretty stout 2 liter I4 but that stoutness comes at being both turbo charged, super charged and battery assisted.
Hybrids are the best of both worlds rn. There's a reason why in some countries, Toyota sells more hybrid vehicles than they do ICE vehicles. I'm looking forward to seeing how Toyota's hybrid tech translates to vehicles like the LandCruiser 300 and the Hilux.
At some point, simplicity in electric is going to be the mass market appeal.
It'll get to a point where BEVs are cheaper to produce than ICE-powered vehicles. One area that's worth watching is FCEV (i.e. hydrogen). It's still early days, but it looks like there is a lot of potential for FCEVs in vehicle segments dominated by diesel today i.e. heavy haulage.

In the long term, I'd expect a mix of fuels being used for transport. Gasoline and diesel will still be around, but mainly for specialty vehicles and long distance use (with the latter use case potentially being taken over by FCEV).

Any of you ever visit the Lane motor museum in Nashville? I went there recently and it was really neat. It's mostly European cars, which I don't see a lot of at car shows, besides obvious ones like Porsches and maybe the odd Lamborghini
The Lane Motor Museum is on my bucket list when/if I ever get to the States.

Serious/retarded question: how important is replacing your a) transmission fluid and b) radiator fluid in late 90s-early 2000s (or really any) car right on the date? I've heard mixed things from old farts from the last century and what the manufacturers say to do (always along the line of "use premium gas only"). I'm not sure what the truth is and would like your opinions my frens..
It depends on the car. That said, the phrase "sealed for life" is a crock and any mechanic that tells you that you don't need to change your trans fluid because it's sealed for life is either an imbecile or they're expecting you to come back to them to replace the tranny (making said mechanic several thousand dollars richer in the process).

On the other end of the spectrum, some manufacturers insist that the trans fluid is changed on a regular basis. For example Honda insists that the fluid in their CVTs is changed every 2 years or 40,000km (around 25,000 Freedom Units). My wife bought a 2005 Jazz (a.k.a Fit) brand new and the CVT fluid has been changed every 2 years. 17 years later and no problems (touch wood).

As for coolant, that's a different story. The tech has really improved since the '90s. These days, coolant can last for 8-10 years or even longer. That same Honda I mentioned in the previous paragraph is running the same coolant it had from the factory and it's still doing its job. That said, I'm thinking of changing it soon anyway as a pre-emptive measure.

Meanwhile, the coolant on my 2012 VW looks like it needs changing soon. It's gone from being pink to a dull orange colour, suggesting that there may be some potential corrosion issues. Sidebar: the latest MCM project is giving me serious feels as it's the first time they've bought a car that I own.

The other thing to bear in mind is that metallurgy and the materials used in ICE manufacture have changed since the '90s. Back then, it was typical to have an alloy head on a cast iron block. Aluminum and iron don't play nice, hence the need to use coolant with corrosion inhibitors and change it every couple of years. Now most ICE engines are 100% alloy, this issue really don't exist anymore.

Please give me all the puzzle pieces... I've sperged on way too much in this post
 
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