Canada is a failed state

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Blindeye said:
If the US military swooped in and kidnapped Carney to a gulag, would it even really change anything?
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Whoever they left in charge would likely be less upfront about the whole “let’s see how much we can loot before the house of cards collapses” thing.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
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And why not roll out the welcome mat for when the Yanks decide to come knockin'?
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What a fag. If it came out that the Liberal government was facilitating drugs into the US for kickbacks, and using our position in 5 Eyes to spy for China. Then Nukes would not save them. Look at what the US just pulled off. It does not matter what side of the aisle you are on, everyone has to admit that it was extremely impressive. Requiring an amount of coordination and skill that the world rarely sees if ever.

Now if Canada had nuclear weapons we would have....5, maybe. Probably all at one site. What do you think the first stop of Delta or the SEALS will be if the US decides to stuff Carney in a sack? Nuke site then Ottawa, or they hit both at the same time. Even if in the chaos the word to launch went up and a missile was launched, it still would be shot down, leading to radiation all over the part of Canada it was blown up over.

These retards have to understand, the US military is orders of magnitude larger, orders of magnitude better equipped, with more training and more coordination. These people do not realize what is down south and believe nukes are a trump card. They aren't, right now people are worried about the devastation to civilian populations. Like if NK fired one at Seoul. Not that NK could use one to win a war. Nukes come out, gloves come off. Canada launches a nuke at the US, and say flattens Chicago. Then in 6 months Canada will be given over to nature as the survivors eke out a miserable existence in whatever is left of Canadian towns and cities. The retribution would be biblical.

With the assumption that any attempt to nuke an American city would result in an Old Testament style flattening of every Canadian town and city. We have to ask ourselves, is it worth it to preserve the power of a government and establishment that hates us?
 
Scale Smerch said:
Incorrect, and that's specifically because the Clarity Act is untested. What it states in theory is that the question must solely reference secession and that Parliament has the power to decide if the aforementioned point is met and if a "clear majority" (the biggest caveat) voted in favour. Also any successful referendum requires an amendment to the Canadian constitution to take effect.

In practice this means Ottawa will benevolently permit such referendums with no complaint as long as it can to avoid upsetting the apple cart and quietly focus instead on getting a majority rejection of the question. You will sure as hell see issues if such a referendum is successful because no federal government will meekly accede to a province leaving (guess what happens to Canada as a concept after that) and plenty of provinces will throw up hurdles to such a constitutional amendment to eke out their own benefits.

It's really a race to see which of Alberta and Quebec see the first majority affirmation of secession because that's the point the wheels fly right off our ramshackle confederation.
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Quebec will never secede.

Even the 1995 referendum wasn’t to fully leave Canada, but to keep Canadian money and trade coverage while no longer participating in the federal political system.

It was a fucking joke.

Quebec is an economic basket case and would be bankrupted by the formulas for repayment of federal funding required under the laws passed by Chrétien to discourage the “Yes” vote in 1995.

The question was also laughably phrased to basically trick “No” voters into thinking that voting “Yes” would lead to remaining in Canada.

karaokeman said:
Is everyone here just at the point of passively watching the trainwreck of Browns and Moslems unfold now?

There's just too many idiot Canadians who think flooding the country with Moslems and Browns is alright.

I've experienced it myself within my own family, I'm sure they're aware that when they go to Toronto they're in a sea of Browns and Moslems, but somehow they've convinced themselves that they're correct rather than admit fault that it was a massive and irreversible mistake.

I truly believe the quality of life of Canada is going to decline below American standards at some point in the future, we no longer have the culture and the society to sustain a Scandinavian=style social system. Policies only work if the culture and the society suits it, Brown culture and Moslem culture doesn't suit Scandinavian social systems.

You don't go to Brampton and expecting it to be like Copenhagen, for a reason, it's just an Indian city at this point that has access to the Canadian dollar.

There is only one place on Earth that a Scandinavian-style social system works with a Brown population, that's Singapore, and only because the Chinese ruling corporate class make it happen.
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Our quality of life has been way below the US since Trudeau II first polled higher than Harper and the dollar lost 5 cents instantly.

We have no buying power, shit healthcare, ridiculous taxes, insane housing prices, no likelihood of owning a home for most citizens and a government hell-bent on borrowing money to piss away on foreign aid.
 
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Samuel Fuller said:
Our quality of life has been way below the US since Trudeau II first polled higher than Harper and the dollar lost 5 cents instantly.

We have no buying power, shit healthcare, ridiculous taxes, insane housing prices, no likelihood of owning a home for most citizens and a government hell-bent on borrowing money to piss away on foreign aid.
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I'd argue that the average Canadian's quality of life has been lower than the average American's since around 1776.
 
Thiletonomics said:
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This is the "typical" Liberal profile.
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It's a good example of "opinion disregarded" on pronouns alone.
Betonhaus said:
Good thing Jake Landau (He/Him) isn't responsible for our foreign policy or we'd probably be blasted to bits already.
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A person that identifies as male (he/him) that is most likely moved by emotions? Agreed.

On another topic, I was watching a video on telegram and saw Canada has respectable amount of oil reserves (it's the third country in the rank!), and it could wisely do things to balance things against U.S. - yet I feel the leaders aren't taking the job seriously:
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Outer Space Traveller said:
On another topic, I was watching a video on telegram and saw Canada has respectable amount of oil reserves (it's the third country in the rank!), and it could wisely do things to balance things against U.S. - yet I feel the leaders aren't taking the job seriously:
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This isn't directed at you personally, but sometimes it surprises me how ignorant some Canadians are about the wealth of natural resources that exist in Canada. Since its inception, Canada has always been a state that relies on resource extraction. So great is the importance of resource extraction that it features heavily in the majority of sociological and cultural theories regarding Canada, like Innis' staples thesis, for example.

About 50% of all global mining companies are headquartered in Canada. There's about 1050 mining companies in Canada compared to only about 320 in the USA, or about 80 in all of Europe. Many valuable metals and minerals are mined here, including those that are necessary for future technological innovation and green energy. Canada produces about 24% of the world's supply of uranium in 2024, just behind Kazakhstan, and Canada has regularly been one of the top suppliers of uranium for decades. Canada is the second largest producer of softwood lumber in the world, just behind the USA, and regularly supplies anywhere from 25-30% of globally traded lumber. Canada is the fifth largest global producer of natural gas, and has the third largest proven oil supply in the world, as listed in the photo you attached to your post. All in all, with the current trends, natural resource extraction makes up to 16% of the total GDP, and about 53% of the value of Canadian market exports. So, for every dollar that we make from exports, about 53 cents comes from natural resources.

All of this to say: it's odd that in a country so reliant on natural resource extraction and production, that the majority of people seem completely ignorant to this fact.
 
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kawaiikat420 said:
All of this to say: it's odd that in a country so reliant on natural resource extraction and production, that the majority of people seem completely ignorant to this fact.
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Don't worry about it. I'm aware how a very rare earth mineral called "Niobium" solely exists in Brazil & Canada, practically:
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And another thing which Canada (and United States) is pretty rich in: WATER AND SOIL (arable land). That by itself should be counted as a great thing:
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Slap47 said:
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The Canadian government sent an Indian to interview "Venezuelans" about the intervention.
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It’s amusing just how quickly these totally organic, not at all paid protesters are able to just pop up whenever America does literally anything, complete with flags and signs they totally have just laying around the house.

Yeah it’s to give Canada the illusion of “moral superiority”, but what fucking leverage do these dipshits think Canada has over our Southern Neighbour, if they’re thinking anything at all beyond “I get paid to do this?”

It’s funny as hell seeing the posts about these on various Socials just laughing at the protests. Either the bot farm went down for maintenance, the pendulum may finally be swinging away from these fuckwits, or it’s just everyone outside Snow Mexico clowning on Snow Mexico.
 
kawaiikat420 said:
All of this to say: it's odd that in a country so reliant on natural resource extraction and production, that the majority of people seem completely ignorant to this fact.
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Its not that surprising, way I see it. Resource extraction isn't an en vogue industry. Its a hard, polluting industry that requires things other than a college education. It's functionally third world tier. Add in the push for indigenous rights (who totally own everything that isn't explicitly treaty bound) and being trying to become more green. All that put together, along with general push away from blue collar work in the western world generally, talking up your riches in the ground isn't popular.

When was the last time you saw something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlPtJw0vQE
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
It’s amusing just how quickly these totally organic, not at all paid protesters are able to just pop up whenever America does literally anything, complete with flags and signs they totally have just laying around the house.

Yeah it’s to give Canada the illusion of “moral superiority”, but what fucking leverage do these dipshits think Canada has over our Southern Neighbour, if they’re thinking anything at all beyond “I get paid to do this?”

It’s funny as hell seeing the posts about these on various Socials just laughing at the protests. Either the bot farm went down for maintenance, the pendulum may finally be swinging away from these fuckwits, or it’s just everyone outside Snow Mexico clowning on Snow Mexico.
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These are paid agitators. As many have said before: follow the money, and you'll find plenty of NGOs and "philanthropists" willing to help the world "become a better place". Couple that with a bunch of lazy bums who have nothing to do and "really need that money", you get these wonderful grassroots manifestations.
It almost feels like Canadians are made to be contrarians "just because". They don't seem to have good arguments otherwise.
 
OutInTheRain said:
We have to ask ourselves, is it worth it to preserve the power of a government and establishment that hates us?
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Luckily that wouldn’t ever happen because the US wouldn’t allow nukes in Canada to begin with. There is literally no justifiable reason considering Canadians have and continue to be the spoiled shut-in living in their rich parents basement while posting online about how great communism is and we should tax the rich.

Canadians are protected by the largest, most advanced military on the planet simply because they exist on our border. The level of delusion Canadians have regarding their relevance is second only to the British.
kawaiikat420 said:
All of this to say: it's odd that in a country so reliant on natural resource extraction and production, that the majority of people seem completely ignorant to this
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Is it odd? You have media that is entirely state run. See above discussion. There are a large number of Canadians that truly think Americans are going to come in a take over the country any day now. No one wants Canada as a part of the US and literally no one in America thinks that is something we’d bother doing. It would be great if so many Canadians weren’t traitorous faggots and actually acted as a true partner but that would betray Canadians most sacred doctrine: “At least we’re not like Americans.”
 
Nol 2 said:
Add in the push for indigenous rights
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Ironically, resource extraction has a higher representation of indigenous workers than most industries in Canada. 11% of the mining sector's labour force is indigenous, for example. This idea that indigenous peoples are against resource development, like most things, is a farce perpetrated by the federal government in collaboration with corrupt indigenous leaders to prevent a national genesis. Most indigenous people that I've met in my lifetime supported continued development of pipelines and other resource extraction related projects.

Point and Laugh said:
Is it odd?
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I think it's a little bit odd. It's just a bit ironic to me that some Canadians can be so ignorant of the things that happen in their country.
 
Exactly the same in the US as far as the “indigenous” being used as a shield for shitty leftists. They actually supported Trump and still do. More vote Republican and hate the leftist bullshit but there is big money in their “representatives” allowing them to use the poor helpless native trope to short circuit liberal white brains.
 
Point and Laugh said:
Exactly the same in the US as far as the “indigenous” being used as a shield for shitty leftists. They actually supported Trump and still do. More vote Republican and hate the leftist bullshit but there is big money in their “representatives” allowing them to use the poor helpless native trope to short circuit liberal white brains.
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For the average liberal-minded person, who has never met an indigenous person, the indigenous person represents an idea. The indigenous person isn't so much a person as he is a character, unchanging and easy to project ideals upon. He is: mythological; a noble savage; connected to the environment in a mystical way; suffering; an eternal victim - but, he is never a person, just a trope.

This viewpoint robs indigenous people of their identity and their volition, but this is the natural conclusion of a focus on identity-based politics: a dissolution of self-identity and a hyper-focus on identifying. Nouns versus verbs.
 
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