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Would the Venezuelan operation affect Alberta's attempt at Independence in any meaningful way? From what I've read, it seems like oil is going to be the primary export of Alberta if they seperate, but now that the US has this colossal amount of new oil, Alberta basing it's economy on it might be a tough idea.
 
Would the Venezuelan operation affect Alberta's attempt at Independence in any meaningful way? From what I've read, it seems like oil is going to be the primary export of Alberta if they seperate, but now that the US has this colossal amount of new oil, Alberta basing it's economy on it might be a tough idea.
Think about the logistics.

Alberta is right next door, all they need is a pipeline.

Venezuela is not as close, and you can never have too much oil.
 
Would the Venezuelan operation affect Alberta's attempt at Independence in any meaningful way? From what I've read, it seems like oil is going to be the primary export of Alberta if they seperate, but now that the US has this colossal amount of new oil, Alberta basing it's economy on it might be a tough idea.
The best answer right now is possibly. Both produce Heavy Crude and require the same refinery in Texas. Alberta has more than double the production at the moment. However, this is with a degraded Venezuelan oil industry that is suffering from decades of mismanagement. So any change will be felt at least a couple years from now.

Venezuela is in the head counting process that always follows a massive unexpected shakeup of the political order. Everyone is seeing who is supporting who and what deals can be made. We will have to see who comes out on top in Venezuela before really making any long term plans. There is a chance because of how little damage was done to the institutions that a new head of government will take over with minimal infighting. But we will have to wait and see.
 
Would the Venezuelan operation affect Alberta's attempt at Independence in any meaningful way? From what I've read, it seems like oil is going to be the primary export of Alberta if they seperate, but now that the US has this colossal amount of new oil, Alberta basing it's economy on it might be a tough idea.
Not according to rando X user:
As a heavy oil expert, with 18 patents in heavy oil production technology development and optimizations, and prior experience as a senior technical SME at a supermajor U.S. oil company that Venezuela still owes money to….I wanted to correct some of the misguided takes circulating on X. While Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves, those figures do not translate directly into immediate production flow rates or rapid incremental increases, which demand substantial time and investment. With the next budget season not arriving until Q3, U.S. producers are currently committed to ongoing projects and contractual obligations. Venezuela's oil faces uniquely difficult geology, low ultimate recovery rates, and severe infrastructure deficits. From my work alongside Venezuelans who actually operated projects there, many cited rampant corruption and logistical nightmares as reasons they left the country. At current oil prices, the massive capital required for meaningful production growth simply isn't justified—one leading expert and good friend, estimates it would take at least 3 years to double output, adding about 1 million bbl/d… so not by next week….Unlike Canada, Venezuela has zero SAGD projects ZERO !!; any greenfield heavy oil development there would require at least $30,000 per flowing barrel, meaning roughly $1 billion!! for every 30,000 bbl/d increment achievable in perhaps three years. They mainly produce cold production, which is cheaper I’ll admit!! But with slower flow rates and rely on diluents and polymers which are enhanced recoveries ( EOR) that require capital and supply of these chemicals and infrastructure… more money. Finally, people seem to overlook the U.S. Midwest (PADD 2), which already processes around 4 million bbl/d of crude, predominantly from Canada ( see pic specifically on
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) Venezuela lacks the logistical or practical means to displace that supply. Hope this clarifies things for everyone and helps the understanding of this volatile situation. Thx
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I seen some panic online yesterday that Canada and/or Alberta is ruined now because all the leverage in oil is gone now (there never was any). Besides what this guy says (if it's true, it probably is), the dust still hasn't even settled yet for anyone to start making 100% claims about cause and effect. Whether the Venezuelan VP submits or not, there is supposed to be an election, one the generalissos could shoot him in the head, etc. Some people probably have a good idea on the fallout of it all, but no one really knows for certain that CANADA IS DONE NOW.
 
Think about the logistics.
Im thinking about the logistics where all Albertan oil workers get laid off and American oil companies take over while retiring the employees at lower wages.
Also the logistics of the province with the most CERB applicants getting all gungho of joining the country that wouldn't have done CERB if Israel's economy depended on it.
 
Im thinking about the logistics where all Albertan oil workers get laid off and American oil companies take over while retiring the employees at lower wages.
Also the logistics of the province with the most CERB applicants getting all gungho of joining the country that wouldn't have done CERB if Israel's economy depended on it.
Why retire Canadian workers? They make a fraction of what American workers get. American petroleum workers make serious bank.
 
I seen some panic online yesterday that Canada and/or Alberta is ruined now because all the leverage in oil is gone now
This "republic of Alberta" psy-op is Chinese in origin. BC is going to be a Chinese Colony, maybe the States is going to fight them over it, when all their instigation pays off. "Land Back" Natives, "No oil, no mining, except the foreign oil and foreign minerals in my iPhone" Environmentalists, "Separatist" Capitalists, and "Shout Your Abortion" Graduates.

Ask yourself one question, every time: "Who benefits?"
 
This "republic of Alberta" psy-op is Chinese in origin. BC is going to be a Chinese Colony, maybe the States is going to fight them over it, when all their instigation pays off. "Land Back" Natives, "No oil, no mining, except the foreign oil and foreign minerals in my iPhone" Environmentalists, "Separatist" Capitalists, and "Shout Your Abortion" Graduates.

Ask yourself one question, every time: "Who benefits?"
What an absolutely retarded take.

You haven’t got a fucking clue.
 
What an absolutely retarded take.

You haven’t got a fucking clue.
you might see it that way, being a inner circle guy maybe to the cause, but it's not like Jackson Pollack knew that the CIA was getting his paintings on walls, either. Foreign Powers with Foreign Interference prop up unsuspecting True Believers unbeknownst to the Beneficiaries in Adversarial Lands with a kind of pragmatism (or what might look like eclecticism) that Local Powers with Local Interference cannot ideologically afford.
 
you might see it that way, being a inner circle guy maybe to the cause, but it's not like Jackson Pollack knew that the CIA was getting his paintings on walls, either. Foreign Powers with Foreign Interference prop up unsuspecting True Believers unbeknownst to the Beneficiaries in Adversarial Lands with a kind of pragmatism (or what might look like eclecticism) that Local Powers with Local Interference cannot ideologically afford.
Idiot conspiritards like you, with all your random capitalizations, are all morons.

You don't know shit about shit, and you aren't a millionth as smart as you think you are.
 
In Albertan news for anyone following the union-backed recall movement looks like absolutely none of them will succeed:
A petitioner looking to oust an Alberta cabinet ministers says she has a huge task ahead, as the campaign nears its deadline for signature collection.

Jenny Yeremiy says she thinks the petition has garnered 6,000 signatures since the end of October.

It needs another 10,000 in the next two weeks to force a constituency-wide vote on whether Education Minister Demetrios Nicolaides should lose his seat.

She says a big push for signatures is planned but getting that many before the Jan. 21 deadline would be a major accomplishment.

The petition was the first of 26 launched against members of Alberta's legislature in the final months of 2025. All but two are targeting United Conservative Party members.

The campaign against Nicolaides is the only one with a January deadline. Other recall bids have until February or March to collect enough petition signatures to trigger a recall vote in those ridings.

The 90-day period to gather signatures to recall Premier Danielle Smith in Brooks-Medicine Hat expires March 10.

Each recall attempt can only move forward if organizers collect signatures amounting to 60 per cent of the votes cast last election in that riding.

For some perspective Nicolaides was the one everyone was expecting to get recalled given he's the Education Minister and the primary union target. The fact his recall campaign in a swing riding and following the back to work legislation has amassed barely 1/3 of the required total is quite telling. Any prog dreaming of a general strike or recalling their way into an NDP government just had a rude awakening.

Also another random tidbit since this is history once again rhyming. This recall campaign looks a lot like Bill Vander Zalm's 2010 Fight HST campaign in BC. That one also targeted multiple government MLAs as part of its efforts and similarly failed to oust a single one, though it had much harder requirements. No good wiki article on it but CBC still has its article up for anyone curious about that slice of BC history.
 
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