Canada is a failed state

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McSneaks said:



I always love seeing statements like this. Why is Indian garbage killing Indian garbage "especially" bad and not tolerated? How about your fucking citizens getting their hands cut off by crazies or getting stabbed with needles walking into a Walmart not ESPECIALLY bad? Oh no poor indians, what next the CHINESE???
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I honestly am sick of this. "bla bla bla HAVE NO PLACE IN X, Y, Z or T!!!!". Oh really? Then what are they gonna do about it?
It's just a tacky fucking PR speak to "I'm workin' on it!!!".
 
I think once US controls Venezuela, Canada as oil hub is finished.

Crude oil export is the single reason why CAD hasn't collapsed. Canada will no longer be able to raise USD and sell CAD.
 
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Tim Hortons subreddit is just an Indian hate section.
 
HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
I think once US controls Venezuela, Canada as oil hub is finished.

Crude oil export is the single reason why CAD hasn't collapsed. Canada will no longer be able to raise USD and sell CAD.
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As much as Canada deserves to die a thousand deaths, I am pretty sure geography might play a small part in complicating your goal.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
There's a difference?

No but seriously, wasn't there that one report that showed that even some of the "less productive" states have better economies than Onterrible, our supposed "crown jewel"?

Yeah even typing that makes me understand why Alberta wants to bail.
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There's this article from National Review for the GDP comparisons.

I remember seeing a couple article titles of Mississippi having a GDP per capita greater than the UK's.
Sexy Senior Citizen said:
Crossposting from the US Politics Thread: a jeet Tim Hortons manager tried to bribe an underage girl to marry his brother.
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I know there's the Islamic Content react, but is there a jeet Content react?
 
Betonhaus said:
What exactly will it look like when Canada goes bankrupt
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Argentina at worst, SK at best.

SK had issues with the IMF and they restructured their finances, or were forced to, after a major economic crash. Its something which has reverberated quite a bit in their collective consciousness- there's even movies about it.

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if we had something like this in Canada, I don't want to go into all the details necessarily, as it would deserve a very complex breakdown and analysis; but there would be some good, and some bad.

IMF control would likely involve stipulations from the Germans like austerity measures. What does this mean, for example? Things like cutting pensions, healthcare, no more sending 30 billion to this or that 3rd world shithole, etc.

Maybe anyways, the IMF is much more cucked now than it was in 97' in Korea, and the bad that I could imagine would be the IMF trying to install green energy doctrine, climate change things, etc. Its basically a state where the economy is now being run by an international Bretton woods institution. Honestly, maybe thats better than what we have now.

The contrast is, South Koreans are actually a proud people, didn't like the IMF taking over, worked hard, and arguably recovered from this with gumption and slave like working conditions, but they actually did return to being their own country. Canada, I doubt we have that in us.

In contrast to the sort of IMF bailout and takeover, at worst, we get Argentina
Jetpack Himmler said:
Global depopulation will become a major problem in a generation or two because it's not just the West and East Asia that is in demographic decline. India's birthrate is falling and many nations in subsaharan Africa are following suit. Immigration isn't a viable strategy in the long term because they won't have the excess population. While cost of living and housing are a large contributor of anemic birthrates, much of it is cultural. The state has taken the place of family, religion, and community as the supporting pillar of civilization, so children are no longer required to care for their parents because of the government and private pensions, single payer healthcare (in Canada), and unemployment insurance. The sexual revolution and women's liberation have helped stunt family formation to the point where woman prize careers and independence and marriage becomes increasingly a liability for men. A friend of mine texts me with lamentations of the dating market where average/above average guys can't even land dates with women of similar status.
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Thats just it with the ponzi scheme. For social security, the joke is that if it is a ponzi scheme, its the world's most successful one thats been running for 80+ years and has been reasonably consistent and successful (minus inflation here or there). We can see the cracks now because people are living longer, and because unlike before- the population pyramid is now inverted.

Birthrates are partially cultural, partially economic- but one of the big incentives to have children (among workers), is because they were expected to help in old age. Not permanently, because you'd probably die much younger than living till 100- but relatively. People put all their eggs in one basket, especially the boomers with social security, and theres no way to really fix that because they had less children. The boomers were the real cultural shift, for a myriad of reasons (women entering the workforce, for example), and its where we found that we had less and less children as a whole among the millineal generation- meaning less people to pay into pensions, etc.

This is accelerating, of course- but picture this. For your boomer parents, how many siblings did they have? The Greatest generation may have had 4 kids in a family, sometimes 5, 3, etc. Boomers, there might be 2 or 3 kids in a family, and we start to see multiple boomers just not having kids. Millennials now are not having kids, on average. Not everybody reproduces, some people die younger, etc.

The point being, this trend started under boomers, the greatest generation never had this problem because they had kids (they had the fricking baby boom), and its completely beyond repair at this point.

We shouldn't have put all our eggs in one basket. We're not as bad as some countries (like SK, which had no pension system and relied on the Confucian familial piety/children caring for parents in old age), but as a society- we really should have a mixture of systems.

You get some social security to help support yourself in old age. Your kids, with successful jobs, help to pick up the slack. Maybe as a retired boomer, you have an extra room with your eldest child in their house, and with your grandkids. Instead, we have none of this. Millennials don't have jobs, don't have homes, the boomers took it all, the boomers never trained youth to take over, and instead now want to import the entire third world.

If the pension system collapses, even though I've paid into it, I'll be happy- because its the last bit of justice that could happen to the boomers. I will never retire successfully or have someone pay for my retirement. I often think of this myself, and while Im not suicidal- When I finally hit retirement age several decades from now, honestly, MAID doesnt sound half bad if things don't change in Canada. With inflation, no kids, Indians being caretakers, probably having no pension, maybe being consigned to an actual potential bugman life in some box-apartment somewhere, if I'm still around and things aren't better, Id rather go out on my own terms.

On a personal level, I'm trying to make sure that this isn't the way I go, but the deck is stacked against anyone born in the 90s.

Thats how fucked our generation is structurally.

kawaiikat420 said:
This is okay when a person is in their 20s, or even up to their early 30s. Experiencing the world and networking with people in different countries is probably a better use of your 20s than slaving away in a dying retail store in Canada to make poverty wages, living in your parents' basement, smoking half of your cheque to cope with your non-life, and saving nothing.
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Leads to this I guess.

I can give you the contrast between living abroad vs living in Canada. The pros and the cons if you want.

Id start by highlighting that I've lived in a lot of the global south since the pandemic started. Like a lot of people here, that was a turning point for me where I realized the clowns were at the head of the wheel and there was little we could do to fix things.

The thing is, you do have to settle down at some point. Theres elements of life which are better in other countries, compared to Canada. I won't go into excessive detail there,

but the pros are lower cost of living, safer places, maybe better healthcare, and actual 'culture'. If youre in Italy, Spain, Greece, East Asia- its pretty cool, right? You're living in an actual, more vibrant place.

The cons are you have to learn another language to properly experience that culture, which is tough. But even past that, there's something which sticks with me.
Its something Ronald Reagan said about you can't go to France to become a Frenchman, can't go to Turkey to become a Turk, but you can go to America and become an American.
Our culture was actually welcoming, and its a decent place. It was welcoming not because of multiculturalism, but the melting pot. I actually want assimilation. I'm an assimilationist. I want people in the melting pot, becoming American. Indians do not assimilate, and the current mass immigration goes against that entirely. Multiculturalism is frankly a failed project in Canada.

the contrast is, in Europe- I may live here (my wife is European), and while the people in the small villages near where we live tolerate me; these are people who have been here generationally for centuries. For myself, I will always be an outsider. Its the same with living in SK or Japan and much of the world as well. Maybe my kids will be considered more 'insiders', if I ever have them- but there is a sense of belonging somewhere that we can't replicate outside of Canada or the US, where anyone can go to our countries and belong- if they try to assimilate.

If you want my advice on living abroad, and I've given it here, there are sacrifices you have to make. Honestly, living abroad in part for the next decade might not be bad, and returning to Canada in the mid 2030s or 2040s may be the way to go.

Maybe anyways. There's so much doom in the country, that I honestly don't know. Its sad that it turned out this way, and liberals tanked multiculturalism and the melting pot because they literally had no controls whatsoever on them.
 
Y'all hear about Olivia Chow raising Toronto property taxes to pay for asylum seekers?

We pay higher taxes than Europe and Japan, why we're waiting 8 hours in the ER, 6 months to a year to see a specialist, and we don't even have bullet trains.

And our cities are nowhere near as developed, safe, clean, and beautiful as Geneva, Copenhagen, or Tokyo.
 
karaokeman said:
Y'all hear about Olivia Chow raising Toronto property taxes to pay for asylum seekers?

We pay higher taxes than Europe and Japan, why we're waiting 8 hours in the ER, 6 months to a year to see a specialist, and we don't even have bullet trains.

And our cities are nowhere near as developed, safe, clean, and beautiful as Geneva, Copenhagen, or Tokyo.
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Doesn't help that the immigrants get tax cuts and can avoid paying
 
Betonhaus said:
Doesn't help that the immigrants get tax cuts and can avoid paying
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I just feel like Canadians in general don't understand how despite paying higher taxes we don't really get much in return in terms of quality and volume.

The average Ontarian taxes is roughly equivalent to that of France, but France has way more public services and social benefits compared to Ontario, they work less hours, and they get more vacation days.

The problem is not so much that taxes are high, it's that what we get in return is not much in terms of quality and volume.

Japan overall pays lower taxes than Ontario, and yet the quality and volume of their public services and social benefits are better than Canada.

Long-term I don't see this improving, culturally universal healthcare is ingrained in us, but with competing corporate interests and diverse social groups, I don't think there will be a consensus on improving the quality of the social system.

If you noticed, most places with better social systems tend to be relatively homogenous (Japan, Scandinavia), or broadly European (i.e. France, Germany, Switzerland). Canada is no longer like that, so I don't see things improving in that sense.

A social consensus especially in terms of social systems is more difficult to achieve when you have competing social groups.
 

32% of citizens believes the country "belongs to indigenous" and 19% "don't know"

I guess in a literal sense that's true since the government keeps giving more and more of the country to them. The just gave land in BC to some group that said their ancestors used to use to for a summer home, lmao

Now you'd think if something belonged to you that you would be responsible for the infrastructure... government...safety....not constantly leeching money off immigrants (especially how actual immigrants also leech money off canadians....)

Absolutely cooked

The poll, which was conducted online and can’t be assigned a margin of error, suggests that younger Canadians aged 18 to 24 are far more likely to think the country belongs to Indigenous peoples
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"I wonder why we can't afford anything and everything sucks, better give more money to the small group of people that do nothing for us and won't include us"
 
karaokeman said:
I just feel like Canadians in general don't understand how despite paying higher taxes we don't really get much in return in terms of quality and volume.

The average Ontarian taxes is roughly equivalent to that of France, but France has way more public services and social benefits compared to Ontario, they work less hours, and they get more vacation days.

The problem is not so much that taxes are high, it's that what we get in return is not much in terms of quality and volume.

Japan overall pays lower taxes than Ontario, and yet the quality and volume of their public services and social benefits are better than Canada.
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Let's be honest most Canadians are retarded enough to believe whatever beurocrats in of the money in this country tell them to believe.
 
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