Canada is a failed state

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Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
"Countries fucked up enough as it is, I have no way out and no real prospects, why the fuck would I want to bring a kid into that?" is a line of thought I've not only had, but have heard almost verbatim from other people.

It's almost like making your people miserable means the don't want to subject future generations to the same shit. And considering the kind of people who pump out 4+ kids because of Child Tax benefits, I weep for future generations, they're fucked from the word go.
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The most useless bums LOVE and overuse child tax. I think good parent’s should have support with kids but the most useless cumdumpsters use child tax as personal finances for drugs booze tattoos while neglecting the kids who the money is for! I have seen it many a time in Canada (ex one mom has 6 kids , no dad around -only for sex and beats and verbally abuses her kids in public).
On the day that child tax is released here, police sirens go crazy because that money is funding booze drugs and violence. Disgusting
 
R9K Insurgent said:
I fucking hate journalists so much, left, right, doesn't matter, they are literary jews (Author is literally BERGman) grifting from one headline to the next. OMG, THE LEAF GOVERNMENT IS KILLING ROBERT MUNSCH BECAUSE HE'S GOT HECKIN DEMENTIA!!!!
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I blame the people who don't think for more than 5 seconds with these articles and spread it around like its truth especially when it involves people who are the exact demographic for MAiD.

"Journalists" write garbage like this to get people mad over misinformation and it's not a good look to swallow it hook, line and sinker acting like it's honest and true.
 
Some kid is suing the government for destroying the lives of the Canadian youth. Not quite sure if it's legitimate but the kid is on tiktok and has gone into a lot of detail over it
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Canada is broadly divided between the Anglophone Canadians. the Francophone Canadians, and the unassimilated hordes.

The main issue with immigration is that the overwhelming majority of migrants are unassimilated Third World hordes.
 
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YautjaWeeb said:
Saddest part is H1B US level jets from pooville would be a *massive* improvement compared to what Canada has taken in.
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Jeets are Jeets. There is no difference between Brahmin and Dalits. Both are Jeets.

If you think there is than I am forced to conclude that "brown hands typed your post"
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
"Countries fucked up enough as it is, I have no way out and no real prospects, why the fuck would I want to bring a kid into that?" is a line of thought I've not only had, but have heard almost verbatim from other people.

It's almost like making your people miserable means the don't want to subject future generations to the same shit. And considering the kind of people who pump out 4+ kids because of Child Tax benefits, I weep for future generations, they're fucked from the word go.
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Except that the vast majority of our ancestors had children (and way more) in more precarious economic times than we face now.
Maker's Mark said:
This is just some activist slop that's going to get laughed at and tossed out even if it is real.
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More fundraiser black boxes for Ezra Levant to grift off (in support of this retarded child)

How about instead of suing the government, this kid learn from the actions of Luigi Mangione.
 
unholysedation777 said:
Not like anything will change anyways. If you are young and struggling to find a partner, don't feel bad too bad about it because they probably wouldn't want kids anyway. My exes were fine people but none of them wanted kids. I wouldn't be shocked if this is the same for a majority of young people nowadays. They are correct that it is more difficult, but not only is it more difficult, the difficulty is being used to justify and discourage anyone from even trying.
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Global depopulation will become a major problem in a generation or two because it's not just the West and East Asia that is in demographic decline. India's birthrate is falling and many nations in subsaharan Africa are following suit. Immigration isn't a viable strategy in the long term because they won't have the excess population. While cost of living and housing are a large contributor of anemic birthrates, much of it is cultural. The state has taken the place of family, religion, and community as the supporting pillar of civilization, so children are no longer required to care for their parents because of the government and private pensions, single payer healthcare (in Canada), and unemployment insurance. The sexual revolution and women's liberation have helped stunt family formation to the point where woman prize careers and independence and marriage becomes increasingly a liability for men. A friend of mine texts me with lamentations of the dating market where average/above average guys can't even land dates with women of similar status.

Many of these problems from relative economic and political stability of the Pax Americana that existed since the end of WWII. One of the reasons why people historically had multiple children was because there was no guarantee that they would live to adulthood whether it be from illness or from war. The baby boom of the 1950s was a demographic blip in part because it happened in the wake of a catastrophic global conflict and the postwar boom in the USA and the economic miracles in Europe and Japan. Fast forward to the 2020s where great economic uncertainty is forcing young adults to question if it worth it to start families of their own when it can become a Herculean effort to afford both a roof over your head and food on your table, assuming you can afford a table.

The problem with a state-centric society is that it requires a large tax base and infinite economic growth to sustain itself, but ultimately throttles the golden goose that created it. It was easy in decades past when life expectancies were shorter and Boomers were entering the workforce. Then came the seventies where wages stagnated then the eighties and nineties saw industrial jobs shipped overseas. TPTB need unchecked immigration to keep the Ponzi scheme, but only exacerbate the problem by pushing government services to the breaking point while eroding social cohesion and ensuring future instability. Canadians--or the Laurentian bootlickers by and large don't want to acknowledge this because we have long held romanticized views on immigrants. Similarly, they have romanticized views on government and institutions because they want to believe that our technocrats are benevolent and competent. However, their delusion is on a collision course with reality and it will not be pretty when it is them who lie broken on the pavement.
 
I've said this before but even from my perspective: Even if you are successful in Canada, you will be raped.


Crazy how Toronto is such a fucking laughing stock on the global stage.
 
Lobster Cult High Priest said:
Except that the vast majority of our ancestors had children (and way more) in more precarious economic times than we face now.
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And the vast majority of their children typically died before their teenaged years. Most high birth rates are usually parents trying to replace a dead child (birth rates also include stillbirths- which third world countries have much higher rates of).

This was also during a time period where child labor was legal. Most places today with higher birth rates tend to have next to nonexistent child labor laws (India still uses child labor shops, for example. Just because it's technically illegal, it doesn't mean it's being enforced).

Source on India’s child labor.
Many African countries also utilize child labor

Nigeria, home to one of the highest birth rates, still exploits children for labor. There’s also a disturbing rabbit hole of Nigeria having literal baby factories, to which babies are then sold off to shady adoption agencies for around $10-50K each.

Up until after WW2, many Western countries also utilized child labor.

Turns out, people will pop out a shitton of kids if they can charge rent to a four-year-old. Abolish child labor with an iron fist and those birth rates will decrease.

TLDR: If the Anti-Child Labor Laws were actually enforced by international law, you'd see a lot of third world country birth rates drop to 0.
 
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Lobster Cult High Priest said:
Except that the vast majority of our ancestors had children (and way more) in more precarious economic times than we face now.
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1) they needed the labour, most of them were farmers
2) there was hope for the future their children would inherit. Sod house - clapboard shack- brick farmhouse.

I don't agree with natalist doomposting, but I understand it. Where will your child work? Where will they live? It's a murky, indistinct future now.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
The state has taken the place of family, religion, and community as the supporting pillar of civilization, so children are no longer required to care for their parents
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Call me crazy, but I don't think having huge families is that great. I don't think it should be a goal, or an expectation. I think it's better if people feel free to have as many children as they desire, whether that be 5, or 2, or none. I don't think it's feasible (or desirable, or commendable) for children to be expected to care for their parents, especially in cases of advanced illness like dementia or cancer.

I don't think religion is that great either. I wouldn't want to live under a theocratic regime like Persians or Saudis - even if our religion of choice was Christianity, it would still be a massive corruption scheme. The erosion of the church in Canada wasn't caused by outside forces, it was a natural conclusion. It happened because the society moved past the need for it.

I wish community could be more important, but I've lived in so many different provinces and in so many different cities across the country and it was difficult to maintain relationships with people no matter where I went. A lot of Canadians are cold, standoffish, and kinda rude, and it's hard to care about them when they act like this. I used to think that I was the problem, but once I moved out of Canada I started making friends super easily: now, I have a much bigger social life than I did anywhere in Canada. Someone mentioned this a while back in this thread - you really don't know how bad it is until you leave the country for an extended period of time. What I used to consider "friendly" in Canada is what I consider "bare minimum" where I live now.

Jetpack Himmler said:
A friend of mine texts me with lamentations of the dating market where average/above average guys can't even land dates with women of similar status.
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Not trying to shit on your friend, but a lot of guys that describe themselves as "average" aren't really average. I have this theory that the poorer people are, or maybe the more expensive the area in which they live, the more boring they are too. Having hobbies and passions is really predicated on having free time or expendable funds, so when everyone is forced to work two jobs and can barely afford a place to live, nobody can be interested in anything. Have you ever tried to go on a date with someone and literally all they do is work, sleep, and use social media? I don't recommend it.

The dating scenes in certain cities are worse than others. I hated dating in Toronto because all the guys were either living at home, stupid, broke, or cocky for absolutely no reason- sometimes they were all 4.

Jetpack Himmler said:
The baby boom of the 1950s was a demographic blip in part because it happened in the wake of a catastrophic global conflict and the postwar boom in the USA and the economic miracles in Europe and Japan.
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The baby boom was an anomaly and it's dishonest for statisticians to treat it like the norm. The eternal growth mindset that has plagued our world since the mid-20th century has done a gross disservice to us all.
 
Martin Serious said:
I've said this before but even from my perspective: Even if you are successful in Canada, you will be raped.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tv4hArvKpZk
Crazy how Toronto is such a fucking laughing stock on the global stage.
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Idc if some rich investor class (globalists) exotic sports car gets stolen.

I only care when some working class guy’s Honda Civic or Toyota RAV4 gets stolen.
Kiwisee said:
And the vast majority of their children typically died before their teenaged years. Most high birth rates are usually parents trying to replace a dead child (birth rates also include stillbirths- which third world countries have much higher rates of).
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In this day and age you never know when a Nigger, Chug or Jeet will take out your children. Heck a Jeet truck driver might even take out your entire family of 4 (or if you’re a grandparent, half your descendents are gone in an instant if you had 2 kids)
kawaiikat420 said:
Not trying to shit on your friend, but a lot of guys that describe themselves as "average" aren't really average.
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Most men are in fact average
 
Lobster Cult High Priest said:
In this day and age you never know when a Nigger, Chug or Jeet will take out your children. Heck a Jeet truck driver might even take out your entire family of 4 (or if you’re a grandparent, half your descendents are gone in an instant if you had 2 kids)
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Depressing, isn't it? We are being overrun by people who have no value for human life whatsoever
 
kawaiikat420 said:
I don't think religion is that great either. I wouldn't want to live under a theocratic regime like Persians or Saudis - even if our religion of choice was Christianity, it would still be a massive corruption scheme. The erosion of the church in Canada wasn't caused by outside forces, it was a natural conclusion. It happened because the society moved past the need for it.
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I would argue we live under a theocracy now. Just with worship of the state as its core. Humanity needs something bigger to believe in, we are just hard wired that way. You see worshipful adherents to Communism or outright worshippers of the neo-liberal state like Canadian lolcow Short Fat Otaku. I also would not like to live under a theocratic islamic regime, but I also don't want to live under a regime which mandates worship of the state either.
kawaiikat420 said:
I wish community could be more important, but I've lived in so many different provinces and in so many different cities across the country and it was difficult to maintain relationships with people no matter where I went. A lot of Canadians are cold, standoffish, and kinda rude, and it's hard to care about them when they act like this. I used to think that I was the problem, but once I moved out of Canada I started making friends super easily: now, I have a much bigger social life than I did anywhere in Canada. Someone mentioned this a while back in this thread - you really don't know how bad it is until you leave the country for an extended period of time. What I used to consider "friendly" in Canada is what I consider "bare minimum" where I live now.
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I have had the same kind of life. Due to work I have lived all over Canada and a stint in the US. After leaving Canada for a few years and coming back I realized just how unfriendly Canadians are. How stand offish and rude the average Canadian is. Whereas in the US everyone was friendly, people would make an effort to involve you in neighborhood activities, there were block parties, 4th of July celebrations, tail gating. In Canada everyone is detached and atomized from one another. Everyone in Canada always seems low key pissed off that other people exist.
 
kawaiikat420 said:
I wish community could be more important, but I've lived in so many different provinces and in so many different cities across the country and it was difficult to maintain relationships with people no matter where I went. A lot of Canadians are cold, standoffish, and kinda rude, and it's hard to care about them when they act like this. I used to think that I was the problem, but once I moved out of Canada I started making friends super easily: now, I have a much bigger social life than I did anywhere in Canada.
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I think this might have also been made worse by Covid too. Canadians were cold enough already, and I don't think anyone can deny the mass-scale psychological changes the lockdowns and etc. have brought upon us all. Though even during Covid itself, I find it quite hilarious that many Canadians didn't mind the lockdowns and would have gladly continued if it weren't for the truckers insisting that it was insanity. I have quite a few "friends," but on an emotional scale it never extends beyond an acquaintance. People are so strangely closed and unfriendly in a manner I cannot describe, and only half of the time do they actually try to act nice. There's always a hint of passive aggressiveness from at least half of the interactions I have that give me the impression they just want to be left alone. It is very rare when I feel genuine warmth radiating from another person, and while it might just be autism, cases like yours do give me a strong sense that it's something more external. I was raised by immigrants so even though I have lived here my whole life, I grew up with a particular mindset only to be greeted by something very different once adult life came around, which forced me to completely rewire everything I was taught to believe. I have not had much opportunity to travel much, but even the few days I spend in the States every year or two offer a much warmer experience than my own province. I am often told that it is not enough to judge a country from only a tourist's perspective, and I do find some truth there, but cases like yours make me wonder if in the case of a shithole like Canada, really anything would be better than here when I think about it.
 
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unholysedation777 said:
I think this might have also been made worse by Covid too. Canadians were cold enough already, and I don't think anyone can deny the mass-scale psychological changes the lockdowns and etc. have caused to everyone. Though even during Covid itself, I find it quite hilarious that many Canadians didn't mind the lockdowns and would have gladly continued if it weren't for the truckers insisting that it was insanity.
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For a large percentage of Canadians it was their first time dealing with public large scale disagreement. As we saw with this election there are a lot of psychotic boomers who have never been disagreed with publicly. For years they were given the image of Canadian unity, your neighbors believed the same thing you did.

"After all we're all the same right? We all watch the CBC and CNN and MSNBC and are cultured and high class, unlike those fucking Americans!"

Seeing that the country wasn't as unified as they thought, sent most of them into a fury. "How dare someone disagree with the state! How dare someone disagree with me!" I saw it with my own family and it was wild to watch. No nuance, no attempt to understand, just the programming from the tv driving them into a froth.

A large portion of Canadians have hillbilly politics. Which is "the man on the tv said it, and the man on the tv is not allowed to lie."
 
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