Canada is a failed state

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Lobster Cult High Priest said:
What were the alternative options in the last election?

PPC is a meme party that is a cult of personality for Max.

CPC is the Jeet small business owner party (the small businesses being scams and price gouging, if they aren't scamming the customer they are scamming the government by closing up every 2-3 years, transferring ownership to their cousin and then opening an identical business)

NDP is the Chug party where all the Chugs ended up switching to LPC in the last election.

Your point about talk being cheap is correct though.

Apparently Second Sons had been flooded with recruitment inquiries / applications to join.
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Which is why I said there really wasn't any good option to vote for, but then they went and voted for the party with a proven track record of putting Canada on a nosedive, all because boomers got their feefees hurt because Trump mocked their failure of a country. I cannot for the life of me understand this rationale.

I will be fair and say that I don't know a lot about the minutiae of Canadian politics (that part of my brain is dedicated to Gundam and Star Trek, sorry), but honestly, it's hard for me to see a way out of that mess solely through the political system. The populace is being overrun by third worlders, their real estate is being bought up by chinks, their economy is plunging, and their vaunted healthcare is instead killing people off so they don't have to treat them anymore. Meanwhile, none of the parties seem to have any desire to fix the problems they've caused, instead wasting time persecuting people for calling troons men and telling people to submit to home invaders, and nobody seems to be trying to hold them to account. If the government isn't going to try to figure out a solution, then people will have to take matters into their own hands. But would they even, or are they simply too browbeaten to care anymore?

Canuck kiwis, you have my sympathy. If things don't get better, I hope you can get out.
 
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Realistically America will eventually annex us & start kicking people out/mass relocating citizens 'for our own good' if things get bad enough in terms of societal/economic/ecological damage (i.e. total jeetification)... Either that or it'll be China & America will bomb us first & we'll be left as the worlds largest nature preserve instead

Honestly I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the few takeovers of a 1st world country we see general support for from even the EU if it does get to that point.

As far as culture goes we might suffer from major libtardation, but we do have a lot of important, relatively untapped resources that I seriously doubt most countries (outside of the third world inhabitants our WEF plants are obsessed with importing en masse) are going to feel comfortable seeing undergo major ecological collapse and/or (unmonitored) exploitation.

Especially as one of the larger sources of both freshwater & uranium for prominent example
 
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WanderingWalker said:
Realistically America will eventually annex us & start kicking people out/mass relocating citizens 'for our own good' if things get bad enough in terms of societal/economic/ecological damage (i.e. total jeetification)... Either that or it'll be China & America will bomb us first & we'll be left as the worlds largest nature preserve instead

Honestly I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the few takeovers of a 1st world country we see general support for from even the EU if it does get to that point.

As far as culture goes we might suffer from major libtardation, but we do have a lot of important, relatively untapped resources that I seriously doubt most countries (outside of the third world inhabitants our WEF plants are obsessed with importing en masse) are going to feel comfortable seeing undergo major ecological collapse and/or (unmonitored) exploitation.

Especially as one of the larger sources of both freshwater & uranium for prominent example
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Americans have started fighting. jobs.now is the opening trumpet.
 
WanderingWalker said:
Realistically America will eventually annex us
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As funny as the whole 51st State thing was - and ignoring how realistically we'd probably be States 51-60ish just to avoid fucking up the EC too badly - until it got Carney in off Boomer Seethe, the only ways I think Canada is realistically annexed is either a complete collapse into failed state status (one where the LARP of us being a serious country can't cover the failure anymore), or if someone has the absolutely fucktarded idea of "We could take America in a War".

The former because I doubt that Uncle Sam would appreciate having a Failed State with that large of a, largely unsecured, lard border on his doorstep.

The latter because you just know some dipshit will think "well Canadians are resposible for the Geneva Conventions" and just ignore the fact that those were our Greatest Generations, or how Detroit itself likely has more guns than the Canadian Military...

Either way it has the same outcome - Canada is not a Nation that should be allowed to govern itself, and Uncle Sam takes up Tard Wrangler Duties in exchange for... idk, resources? It's not like the people are worth the effort, despite basically being "Diet Americans"
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
The latter because you just know some dipshit will think "well Canadians are resposible for the Geneva Conventions" and just ignore the fact that those were our Greatest Generations, or how Detroit itself likely has more guns than the Canadian Military...
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That was the Lost Generation (the ones who fought in the Great War trench warfare)

The lost generation was also the ones who became anti-war for WW2 in addition to those who supported the various fascist movements (based)
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
As funny as the whole 51st State thing was - and ignoring how realistically we'd probably be States 51-60ish just to avoid fucking up the EC too badly - until it got Carney in off Boomer Seethe, the only ways I think Canada is realistically annexed is either a complete collapse into failed state status (one where the LARP of us being a serious country can't cover the failure anymore), or if someone has the absolutely fucktarded idea of "We could take America in a War".

The former because I doubt that Uncle Sam would appreciate having a Failed State with that large of a, largely unsecured, lard border on his doorstep.

The latter because you just know some dipshit will think "well Canadians are resposible for the Geneva Conventions" and just ignore the fact that those were our Greatest Generations, or how Detroit itself likely has more guns than the Canadian Military...

Either way it has the same outcome - Canada is not a Nation that should be allowed to govern itself, and Uncle Sam takes up Tard Wrangler Duties in exchange for... idk, resources? It's not like the people are worth the effort, despite basically being "Diet Americans"
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The US will step in and make us Puerto Rico north if things get bad enough, they already have one Mexico after all so two Mexicos would give most of DC a stroke
 
To be honest, I think even annexation might be too positive of a thought at this point. Canadians like to talk big, but I doubt any of them would actually genuinely plan to go to war first with America just knowing how they are. It'd require someone particularly crazy and insane for something like that to happen, because if there's one thing we've established, Canadians are many things EXCEPT do-ers. In the hypothetical situation America actually is planning on annexing us without needing to be provoked, it's all down to a long, grueling and painful waiting game on our end that we might not see for another few decades to come. Why risk losing maybe a couple soldiers and when you can wait until Canada completely crashes from the ground up? No effort needed on Americas part and it won't look so bad for PR if the country is already completely fucked over (can't kill something that's already dead). Land and resources aren't going anywhere, and Canadians are doing a VERY good job at conserving and not actually using any of it. Just wait for the country to go belly-up and scoop up the remains. And if Canada actually does come to its senses, AKA the Good Ending, then it's safe to assume they would definitely give up on these stupid slap-fights and become a proper trader with the states whereas America will still prosper nonetheless. It's a win-win situation for the States if they just wait, so I doubt they will step in to intervene anytime soon.
 
unholysedation777 said:
To be honest, I think even annexation might be too positive of a thought at this point. Canadians like to talk big, but I doubt any of them would actually genuinely plan to go to war first with America just knowing how they are. It'd require someone particularly crazy and insane for something like that to happen, because if there's one thing we've established, Canadians are many things EXCEPT do-ers. In the hypothetical situation America actually is planning on annexing us without needing to be provoked, it's all down to a long, grueling and painful waiting game on our end that we might not see for another few decades to come. Why risk losing maybe a couple soldiers and when you can wait until Canada completely crashes from the ground up? No effort needed on Americas part and it won't look so bad for PR if the country is already completely fucked over (can't kill something that's already dead). Land and resources aren't going anywhere, and Canadians are doing a VERY good job at conserving and not actually using any of it. Just wait for the country to go belly-up and scoop up the remains. And if Canada actually does come to its senses, AKA the Good Ending, then it's safe to assume they would definitely give up on these stupid slap-fights and become a proper trader with the states whereas America will still prosper nonetheless. It's a win-win situation for the States if they just wait, so I doubt they will step in to intervene anytime soon.
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Yes, barring any wild turns and while also a fun hypothetical, US annexation of Canada militarily has only been on the table in the delusional minds of some Canadians.

I think it could happen if the US actually wanted to do it, for all Trump's talk I don't there is any actual interest in taking Canada. But if it did happen, it would be done by applying more economical pressure and other subversive means and it would be focused on chipping off Alberta at first. Like they could propagandize the absolute shit out of Canada just through social media alone. Imagine, Meta and X shut down all GoC accounts, that leaves Canada with like FM radio and a few network television stations. Even then a huge chunk of Canadians news media is owned by an American hedge fund. It could all be done without firing a single bullet.

It is funny to listen to the Canucks who think it would be like Red Dawn. One of my good friends told me all about how he would go down fighting the US military. I'm just like bro you don't own any guns.
 
The thing about western separatism in this country is that it's opportunistic and economic by nature. The Laurentian elite and media apparatus denigrates it because it's not like Quebec's cultural revanchism (the thing bought off exclusively by changes to French language laws), but that is why they're stupid; all it takes is one critical national unity crisis and the boogeyman they're ignoring becomes their greatest fear. 30% support for separatism in Alberta right now (per mainstream polls) is unheard of, and is critical because the moment you have a federal government so against the west (which is closer than you think) is the point that number turns into 50%+ and forces a serious discussion on the Clarity Act. It will never stop being funny the thing forcing a national discussion on Canadian integration will be a western schism versus a Quebecois movement.

I'm a firm believer in Canada as a sovereign state not surviving beyond the next 50 years because the pressure points are too much for Upper Canada and its dilettante elite to handle. You wanted the status quo and instead you're getting the worst nightmares of clinically insane American leftists. Have fun dealing with a regional populace who actually decided to secede and has, per law, the constitutional right to do so. Goddamn am I happy I own a serious firearm collection :story:
 
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Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
I meant more in "They were literally the Greatest that Canada has ever produced", especially in comparison to Current Leafistan.
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I maintain the justified belief that the Canadian education system is at least partially to blame for most Canadians getting dumber and dumber every generation. just look no further than the entitled brats in my generation as a prime example.
 
unholysedation777 said:
To be honest, I think even annexation might be too positive of a thought at this point. Canadians like to talk big, but I doubt any of them would actually genuinely plan to go to war first with America just knowing how they are. It'd require someone particularly crazy and insane for something like that to happen, because if there's one thing we've established, Canadians are many things EXCEPT do-ers. In the hypothetical situation America actually is planning on annexing us without needing to be provoked, it's all down to a long, grueling and painful waiting game on our end that we might not see for another few decades to come. Why risk losing maybe a couple soldiers and when you can wait until Canada completely crashes from the ground up? No effort needed on Americas part and it won't look so bad for PR if the country is already completely fucked over (can't kill something that's already dead). Land and resources aren't going anywhere, and Canadians are doing a VERY good job at conserving and not actually using any of it. Just wait for the country to go belly-up and scoop up the remains. And if Canada actually does come to its senses, AKA the Good Ending, then it's safe to assume they would definitely give up on these stupid slap-fights and become a proper trader with the states whereas America will still prosper nonetheless. It's a win-win situation for the States if they just wait, so I doubt they will step in to intervene anytime soon.
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For America to annex part of Canada all they need to do is approach Alberta with an agreement for how annexation would work and what rights and protections they will receive, if the deal is good enough (and includes a calculation of how much each citizen will receive in equalization refunds from leaving Canada) there would likely be a majority of people who would be interested, especially if they can be assured that their rights are protected and that they actually matter in elections.
 
In recent light to this story, I felt like sharing some OC.
Canada has outlawed carrying anything for self defense beyond a whistle or other noisemaker. Now, a city has banned home security cameras that "view or listen beyond the perimeters of their own property."
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